Official Phoenx Statement

[DeletedUser71961]

so RAM are employing dirty tricks on other tribes not just ~B~?

 

[DeletedUser]

Sigh....


I'll try this one more time, and then I give up...and you think we're the ones that can't keep our thoughts straight...

Your original statement is so backwards and twisted that I don't want you to simply sweep your slip under the rug...

Here's what you originally said:

When we're ready, you will know it. The paltry sum of villages you've managed to snag from uh hum, certain players is nothing compared to the conglomerate that is RAM..... Who knows, do you think it possible that this was our plan from the beginning... Nobles aren't easy to come by, and you guys are wasting them on non-threatening players....just a thought...

I call you out on what you're implying about your new non-threatening, recruited family members...and you reply with this:

The guys on our front lines understand the bigger picture. They know without a doubt that Phoenix will fall, and they are playing their part right now to see to it. Phoenix owns a pathetic amount of space in this world. But that pathetic amount of space will be war spoils in a few months and the players losing villages will get them back......even if they have to noble ex-Phoenix barbs to get them.

Helping players improve their game and learn to play is maybe the best part of the game... you're spot on there..

We haven't even launched on you guys yet...rofl...better play up the stats while you can.

....so, they aren't good enough to be threatening, but they are smart enough to see and wait for a the bigger picture...ROFL...and we're delirious??? Sounds like the delusion was invented by you, sold to them. :icon_redface:


Paj is crushing you in pnp, but there's one thing he never does - and this is where I do have one more thing to say before I continue nobling your new, nonthreatening, but exceptionally smart, yet not delirious, new recruits...

You got a big mouth buddy. While learning how to play this game in W30 and accumulating 4x the OD than you have, I have found that big mouths usually mean one of two things. Either one, you're damn good, and with such low OD, this means you have a ton of nobles. Or two (my bet), you're all talk, and no smoking barrel. Why is that my bet? This is why tough guy....(n.b. as a hilarious aside, I wrote all of this before looking up and posting the stats I'm about to - we can call this an uber-hunch)


Mberns (last twenty enoblements):
Village Points Old Owner New Owner Date/Time
Barbarian village (738|539) K57 9,455 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-10 20:49:30
Barbarian village (741|539) K57 9,455 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-10 19:41:36
Barbarian village (742|542) K57 7,250 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-09 17:29:34
Barbarian village (746|559) K57 9,431 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-08 22:06:26
Barbarian village (746|560) K57 9,441 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-08 06:01:31
Barbarian village (720|567) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-07 20:40:33
Barbarian village (743|561) K57 9,455 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-07 18:26:21
Barbarian village (718|566) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-06 21:46:43
Barbarian village (728|573) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-06 03:32:25
001 (724|578) K57 9,650 Exalted Undead mberns [RAM] 2010-07-06 02:13:58
Barbarian village (727|573) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-05 19:07:28
Barbarian village (716|568) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-05 06:30:33
Barbarian village (726|574) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-04 20:27:56
Barbarian village (722|573) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-04 19:54:25
Barbarian village (720|574) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-04 02:51:34
Arrakis (721|578) K57 9,650 Exalted Undead mberns [RAM] 2010-07-03 22:17:39
007 (723|576) K57 9,650 Exalted Undead mberns [RAM] 2010-07-03 22:17:09
005 (722|575) K57 9,650 Exalted Undead mberns [RAM] 2010-07-03 18:38:33
ESE.Tiger (744|544) K57 9,387 Jackparadise [~B~] mberns [RAM] 2010-07-03 10:51:20
Arrakis (724|577) K57 9,650 Exalted Undead mberns [RAM] 2010-07-02 23:46:03


Bullmastiff (same):
Village Points Old Owner New Owner Date/Time
K84 North (451|804) K84 10,927 MRSoxS [RAM] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-11 05:10:05
STAY AWAY$$$ (440|791) K74 10,888 arsumon [D2] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-10 11:50:02
K84 North (453|803) K84 9,577 MRSoxS [RAM] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-09 10:25:09
A 103 Gift (454|793) K74 7,789 kanipuppeli [DRIFT] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-08 21:21:48
BONUS VILLA! 11 (449|796) K74 8,229 kanipuppeli [DRIFT] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-08 18:48:39
A 104 DILLIGAF (455|794) K74 7,944 kanipuppeli [DRIFT] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-08 09:20:55
K84 North (447|805) K84 5,618 MRSoxS [RAM] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-07 08:28:59
K74 (436|787) K74 8,636 MRSoxS [RAM] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-07 00:44:18
K84 North (446|805) K84 8,648 Bullmastiff [Phoenx] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-06 22:23:27
K84 North (446|805) K84 8,648 MRSoxS [RAM] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-06 22:23:26
K84 North (446|805) K84 8,648 Bullmastiff [Phoenx] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-06 22:23:26
K84 North (448|804) K84 9,607 MRSoxS [RAM] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-06 13:43:56
K84 North (447|804) K84 5,521 MRSoxS [RAM] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-06 13:11:04
CaShLaNd (582|625) K65 9,617 KoE-CaShMaN [Phoenx] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-06 10:27:46
K74 (438|789) K74 6,303 MRSoxS [RAM] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-06 08:51:29
K84 North (446|805) K84 8,631 MRSoxS [RAM] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-06 05:30:03
CaShLaNd (582|624) K65 9,910 KoE-CaShMaN [Phoenx] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-05 04:35:31
K74 South 015 (431|790) K74 8,342 MRSoxS [RAM] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-05 00:21:21
K74 (439|789) K74 9,117 MRSoxS [RAM] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-04 05:26:18
K74 (435|787) K74 8,889 MRSoxS [RAM] Bullmastiff [Phoenx] 2010-07-03 18:30:34

just as I expect....sigh....

A long time ago, shipley told me something that I carried with me. Pulling out the "measuring stick", as he called it, I admit was a bit pathetic. I promised myself I wouldn't unless some noob needed adjustment.

So look noob, type and type away, calling what we have done pathetic. Calling the territories we've EARNED (plz see above stats ), pathetic. You say we're not smart enough to eat up the easy spoils of war? When you're on the way out of this world mate, you'll realize that easy does not mean smart. While you work on your strategies with barbs...ahh nvm, you won't get it. LOL...you really don't get how we operate do you? ROFL

I've said it time and time again. We don't make the quitters quit. What's the point? Ahh yes, but to make the stubbern ones quit....now that's something. I look at your stats, no OD meaning a crap load of nobles which are then sent at 9k barbs. Then I think of a guy like Taoron, who has no nobles and never will. But one thing he'll always always have, is an active front w/ active players. How many guys you get to quit now T (just in W30 silly )?

So type and type away noob. Call our leadership pathetic, call paj pathetic, call me pathetic.

At the end of the day noob, no typing will change the above stats. Only all this ingame nonsense you talk will. No typing will multiply your OD by 4 to be comparable with what I've done in this world.

The irony here noob, is you thinking that you measure up to us, in pnp and in game . The irony is you're the unproven player in a tribe that indeed has talent, yet still suffers in pnp from noobs like you.

The irony, NOOB, is that you are the pathetic one.

 

[KarmaX]

Mberns (last twenty enoblements):
Village Points Old Owner New Owner Date/Time
Barbarian village (738|539) K57 9,455 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-10 20:49:30
Barbarian village (741|539) K57 9,455 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-10 19:41:36
Barbarian village (742|542) K57 7,250 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-09 17:29:34
Barbarian village (746|559) K57 9,431 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-08 22:06:26
Barbarian village (746|560) K57 9,441 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-08 06:01:31
Barbarian village (720|567) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-07 20:40:33
Barbarian village (743|561) K57 9,455 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-07 18:26:21
Barbarian village (718|566) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-06 21:46:43
Barbarian village (728|573) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-06 03:32:25
001 (724|578) K57 9,650 Exalted Undead mberns [RAM] 2010-07-06 02:13:58
Barbarian village (727|573) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-05 19:07:28
Barbarian village (716|568) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-05 06:30:33
Barbarian village (726|574) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-04 20:27:56
Barbarian village (722|573) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-04 19:54:25
Barbarian village (720|574) K57 9,479 Abandoned mberns [RAM] 2010-07-04 02:51:34
Arrakis (721|578) K57 9,650 Exalted Undead mberns [RAM] 2010-07-03 22:17:39
007 (723|576) K57 9,650 Exalted Undead mberns [RAM] 2010-07-03 22:17:09
005 (722|575) K57 9,650 Exalted Undead mberns [RAM] 2010-07-03 18:38:33
ESE.Tiger (744|544) K57 9,387 Jackparadise [~B~] mberns [RAM] 2010-07-03 10:51:20
Arrakis (724|577) K57 9,650 Exalted Undead mberns [RAM] 2010-07-02 23:46:03

Those villages that he is nobling were X-BD villages which we got in war spoils. The entire K-56 and K-57 is our war spoil. We forced many to quit by our cat ops. I don't think both sides need to be harsh to each other, and this means for mberns too. We are all here in TW to have fun and I'm sure the best tribe will win instead of ranting who's gonna win. Lets have some fun chat here, post stats, we can have fun discussions too if you like :icon_twisted:

 

[DeletedUser]

I know exactly where all those barbs came from. The whole point of my rant was about the choices we make in TW, the outcomes of it, and the proof there of...

I appreciate your attempt to cushion his stats, and I get that someone has to noble the barbs....that was kinda exactly my point....thus the Taoron counterexample. Some guys just aren't cut out to rack stats like a noobaxes (hence the uber hunch).

Which is fine, but then to come on here at talk as if he's got noobaxe-like-stats, I find pretty juvenile. Something had to be said is all.

 

[DeletedUser]

bull, I'll help you a bit here, since you are obviously very new to this game and these forums....

THE REASON THOSE ARE BARBS IS BECAUSE OF US. RAM HAS EARNED THE RIGHTS TO THOSE CONTINENTS AND WE ARE TAKING THEM.

We will continue taking them until they are gone. While your pathetic tribe, and pathetic leader send triflingly small un-coordinated attacks we are extending our territory. By the time the Phoenix war is over RAM will be twice the size it is now.

As far as crushing me/us in PNP...lol..whatever, Paj lies over and over again, if that's good pnp then so be it..


One more thing, I have about 150 more barbs to take before I get the opportunity to take it to an enemy again with my nobles. In the meantime I'll be curious to see which Phoenix players have the mojo to be constantly rebuilding farms, HQs, smithys, mines, warehouses etc etc....

Do you mr puppy have the mojo to lose several hundred thousand points and rebuild several hundred villages that we trashed? You might, Paj probably does, but the majority of players don't, as you guys will soon learn..

We have our strategy, and it's working quite nicely for us, we won't apologize for it.

 

[DeletedUser]

bull, I'll help you a bit here, since you are obviously very new to this game and these forums....

THE REASON THOSE ARE BARBS IS BECAUSE OF US. RAM HAS EARNED THE RIGHTS TO THOSE CONTINENTS AND WE ARE TAKING THEM.

We will continue taking them until they are gone. While your pathetic tribe, and pathetic leader send triflingly small un-coordinated attacks we are extending our territory. By the time the Phoenix war is over RAM will be twice the size it is now.

As far as crushing me/us in PNP...lol..whatever, Paj lies over and over again, if that's good pnp then so be it..


One more thing, I have about 150 more barbs to take before I get the opportunity to take it to an enemy again with my nobles. In the meantime I'll be curious to see which Phoenix players have the mojo to be constantly rebuilding farms, HQs, smithys, mines, warehouses etc etc....

Do you mr puppy have the mojo to lose several hundred thousand points and rebuild several hundred villages that we trashed? You might, Paj probably does, but the majority of players don't, as you guys will soon learn..

We have our strategy, and it's working quite nicely for us, we won't apologize for it.

Ok, dont defending your crap stats. I didn't think you could anyways. As for you barbs, eat up mate. You pointed out yourself that nobles are hard to come by. Since I agree 100%, I'll continue to invest them into the enemy. I guess that's the difference between us, eh?

 

[Michael Wittman]

Haha seriously at most you guys might scratch the surface. This war is going to be a blast!!! At least you guys will put up a fight. Bull before you assume we don't care about our new members based on berns pointing out where your only war caps come from, why don't you ask them how much support they are receiving and how fast our amazing support system has stacked them. My only regret with our new guys is that we didn't stack them prior to joining.

Now really, the only player you guys are hammering is mrsox and you have no idea how bad the account was when we got it. I just spent 2 more hours grouping and building churches. Its the worst account I have ever fixed. So yes you will keep getting caps from him for a little while but I about have it under control. After that, your caps will drop dramatically.

So let's fight it out and enjoy it. The advantage you have enjoyed is nearly at an end and you will soon see the full strength of ram.

Oh and bull... I have played with berns for 3 years and he is at least yours or any phoenx members equal. So you go ahead and believe what you want and I'll believe what I want. In the end you will have your answers.

 

[DeletedUser]

Haha seriously at most you guys might scratch the surface. This war is going to be a blast!!! At least you guys will put up a fight. Bull before you assume we don't care about our new members based on berns pointing out where your only war caps come from, why don't you ask them how much support they are receiving and how fast our amazing support system has stacked them.

No, I assumed this based on him saying that they were non-threatening. Look up what he said mate. I would figured that the closest would be the most threatening...*shrug*

Also, I guess I took offense to what he said, knowing how everyone in Phoenix gets along and knowing how we feel about eachother. You win through camaraderie. You get such things starting w/ a nice welcome to new members....basically the opposite of what was done.

My only regret with our new guys is that we didn't stack them prior to joining.

I'll save the nastiness due to your cordialness, but yeah....shoulda thought about that one first. O well, we all learn these things eventually.

Now really, the only player you guys are hammering is mrsox and you have no idea how bad the account was when we got it. I just spent 2 more hours grouping and building churches. Its the worst account I have ever fixed. So yes you will keep getting caps from him for a little while but I about have it under control. After that, your caps will drop dramatically.

No need to explain mate. They weren't our recruiting methods. Also, most of this awesome support you sent was wasted. It was either nonreligious villages or broken walls. Again, we all learn these things eventually...

I amend your sitting efforts - it takes a lot of dedication, I know. But to be completely honest, from what I've seen, my thoughts were that the account was inactive.

So let's fight it out and enjoy it. The advantage you have enjoyed is nearly at an end and you will soon see the full strength of ram.

Oh and bull... I have played with berns for 3 years and he is at least yours or any phoenx members equal. So you go ahead and believe what you want and I'll believe what I want. In the end you will have your answers.

I hope so, but I doubt it mate. I don't doubt all of you guys, but when I see a loud mouth with no stats, go the map and see that he must have been huggled from the rim and then jumped on barbs north....I'm only left w/ my assumptions. Prove me wrong tho

 

[DeletedUser71961]

I dont care about stats.... I can see the bigger picture :icon_rolleyes:

it wasnt that when RAM and DRIFT broke a NAP on us recently and targeted our inactives close to them..... i remember RAM bragging about those stats quite often.

 

[KarmaX]

Yes, we will soon brag about it again. Till then others can brag about it :icon_biggrin: .. What he meant was we don't kill ourselves coz of stats and we will soon work on making it better once the attacks have begun.

 

[DeletedUser71961]

Yes, we will soon brag about it again. Till then others can brag about it :icon_biggrin: .. What he meant was we don't kill ourselves coz of stats and we will soon work on making it better once the attacks have begun.

without RAM doing all the dirty work for DRIFT to walk in and do the nobling DRIFT dont stand a chance against us so dont get too stretched or we might end up embarrassing RAM's academy, but you already knew that hence all the nukes from RAM to pave the way for DRIFT who cant fight.

 

[DeletedUser]

Touching on the occupied village caps and the barb caps. Regardless of which is which its still an empty village when you gain control of it. Troops can be built in the same manner to be used for the same purpose, playing the game. I dont think there's a player in TW who hasnt nobled a barb. Comparing caps on villages nobled off active players vs abandoned villages attacked during a war and the player deletes is irrelevant. Both add points, both expand the capturing players holdings. The stats dont make the player, the player makes the player. During war time in this game you take what ever village you can get ya damn hands on, as fast as you can and get it rebuilt and build troops. Repeat the cycle. IMO a noble used to take a village either occupied or abandoned is not a wasted noble. Both increase your portfolio.

 

[DeletedUser]

it will be fun paj, we arent the kind to quit and neither are you. i predict years of fighting if your smaller size will allow it. we have fought much larger enemies before so im sure you will hold out for a while. fun fun and thousands of nukes.

Years of fighting? Much larger enemies? When has this stuff happened on W30? We are not an inert tribe who will sit around for years without pushing this, there is zero chance RAM could last years against Phoenx, this will end one way or another before then.

Touching on the occupied village caps and the barb caps. Regardless of which is which its still an empty village when you gain control of it. Troops can be built in the same manner to be used for the same purpose, playing the game. I dont think there's a player in TW who hasnt nobled a barb. Comparing caps on villages nobled off active players vs abandoned villages attacked during a war and the player deletes is irrelevant. Both add points, both expand the capturing players holdings. The stats dont make the player, the player makes the player. During war time in this game you take what ever village you can get ya damn hands on, as fast as you can and get it rebuilt and build troops. Repeat the cycle. IMO a noble used to take a village either occupied or abandoned is not a wasted noble. Both increase your portfolio.

You are yet another who doesn't understand the point Bull is getting at, and having chatted to you a few times, I'm not surprised you'd take this standpoint. If you have the option to inhibit enemy troop production why not take it?

 

[DeletedUser]

without RAM doing all the dirty work for DRIFT to walk in and do the nobling DRIFT dont stand a chance against us so dont get too stretched or we might end up embarrassing RAM's academy, but you already knew that hence all the nukes from RAM to pave the way for DRIFT who cant fight.

Funniest post ever. :icon_biggrin:

Good luck!

 

[KarmaX]

Ya, he is the only one that posts amusing posts these days after Gicusan is gone. :lol:

 

[DeletedUser71961]

Funniest post ever. :icon_biggrin:

Good luck!

thats why big hard RAM had to send all the nukes for DRIFT? there's a reason you put noob in your name me thinks, not that RAM can fight a fair fight but one on one ~B~ would do DRIFT and you know it, if not and im wrong step back and let us fight them without your help, if you are so confident in your academy tribe let them do their own fighting, YES OR NO? one word answer from karma please.

 

[KarmaX]

We didn't send all our nukes at you. We have them saved for PHOENX. I think only few players sent at you and that doesn't even count as an Op.

 

[DeletedUser]

hi everyone,

Boy its getting rather hot here. Sorry thats the weather.

Ok, can we can the rude insults from both sides.

Phoenix have shown their are not pathetic. Destroying BD even with a little help showed us that they know how to run ops.
I will clap my hands for that.

On the other hand RAM have taken the lead by whatever means are allowed in TW. Diplomacy is part of the game. So is barb nobling last time I looked. Maybe you do not like the way it was done but as far as I'm concerned legitimately.
Mick, can you honestly say you haven't nobled a BARB????

Stop spouting about what RAM have done behind anyones back.
Pajuno, your a politician. You pull as many underhand tricks as RAM does. So don't keep crying the poor tale.
PHOENIX and RAM are as honest as the rules force each of you to be. Let's not kid ourselves.

Oh and by your own mouth Mick you thought you were nobling an inactive. From what Michael was saying it was a bad account maybe in the wrong place at the wrong time like Turples. Of course they are valid caps so you take an early lead.

I'm trying to remember the winners of the last two World Wars. Hmmmm.. Let me see not the ones who started it and took territory first. So let's not prejudge. It's a long way to the winning post.

Calling each other noobs, pathetic and showing silly stats proves nothing.

Lets enjoy the game and see how it goes.

 

[Michael Wittman]

As far as mrsox goes, you guys have largely been facing an inactive. We chose the view that putting the account in order should take precedence as its a frontline account. It would have been much more wearing for our sitters to try to defend an account that was missing tons of churches, and was full of mixed villages. With a well ordered account albeit missing around a million points, we will be much more able to efficiently stack and give a good fight with much less effort .

You will be seeing some strange noobish activities from mrsox(and no jokes about past owner please) and I will quite enjoy them . Trust me it has to be done or I wouldn't ever do it.

And yes reaper, I was refering to a previous world. I believe that experience. Will also help on this world. Only time will tell and we both appear to be completely confident of victory.

Bull you are entitled to your opinions about mberns game play. I feel you are missing many other factors that you could only see from being in the same tribe. Yes he likes to talk aggressively but he has always backed it up with the same viciousness in battle. You havnt seen it on this world and BD only got a taste. Since I consider myself as a fellow pioneer of our tactics(we both worked together to develop and improve upon them) I will say that we hope that phoenx can be the culmination of these tactics on the lagest most organized scale we have ever managed. Each battle brings more experience and deadly effectiveness. With skill and a bit of luck....

Phoenx will be our masterpiece

 

[DeletedUser]

thats why big hard RAM had to send all the nukes for DRIFT? there's a reason you put noob in your name me thinks, not that RAM can fight a fair fight but one on one ~B~ would do DRIFT and you know it, if not and im wrong step back and let us fight them without your help, if you are so confident in your academy tribe let them do their own fighting, YES OR NO? one word answer from karma please.

Your eminence, your highness, superman!

Yes we tought you were so allmighty, we had to throw everything at you as we expect your tribe to be the closest to perfection, Phoenx pffffff.

Your experience annihilating both Decide and Legion are now part of the -B- legend, a tribe name that makes all TW shake in fear and despair.

You also caught me, yes I'm a noob. Now all my self esteem is going down the drain. Thank you :icon_cry: