DeletedUser
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You were active on some other world, and sat on w41?
Screw that, I'm not burning out Axes' sitters for someone that doesn't care.
No biggie, just look at me and learn.
You were active on some other world, and sat on w41?
Screw that, I'm not burning out Axes' sitters for someone that doesn't care.
No biggie, just look at me and learn.
DeletedUser
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again you lie ,you know i was not playing other world ,i was busy in RL,you know my son played my account,jesus guys its no big deal,BUT DONT SAY YOU LOOK AFTER YOUR OWN,i dont give a s--t,but dont preach guys,you shat on us,am i lying tell me
DeletedUser
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and chorde very disappointed in your actions thought you was a better man than this,this will be my last post,good luck everyone
DeletedUser
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I remember the exact situation Delboy. It was unfair about what happened. Nonetheless it doesn't change your yellows or your lack of motivation towards solving the issue of what happened.
Jun 08
17:44 delboy426 has been dismissed by Jonathan1979.
AXES None 08th June 2010 - 19:17:52 3,356,549
None sb 09th June 2010 - 04:10:50 3,279,438 (sb stands for stabbed in the back)
sb None 09th June 2010 - 19:15:43 3,209,034
Instead of working around the mistake of what happened, this is what you did along with choice words to us about it. So we shrugged our shoulders and figured you didn't want back in. And why would we want someone like that back in the first place? Granted you had a reason to be angry, but not at Axes, just at an individual. From our perspective, we had no idea about what was supposed to happen with your sit and your reaction combined with your already lagging interest in w41 was grounds enough to keep you out of the tribe at that time. If you had kept your cool instead of freaking out, it's quite possible that you'd be here today. But from what you've seen, you have to realize that if you lose your head, we don't want you in Axes.
Jun 08
17:44 delboy426 has been dismissed by Jonathan1979.
AXES None 08th June 2010 - 19:17:52 3,356,549
None sb 09th June 2010 - 04:10:50 3,279,438 (sb stands for stabbed in the back)
sb None 09th June 2010 - 19:15:43 3,209,034
Instead of working around the mistake of what happened, this is what you did along with choice words to us about it. So we shrugged our shoulders and figured you didn't want back in. And why would we want someone like that back in the first place? Granted you had a reason to be angry, but not at Axes, just at an individual. From our perspective, we had no idea about what was supposed to happen with your sit and your reaction combined with your already lagging interest in w41 was grounds enough to keep you out of the tribe at that time. If you had kept your cool instead of freaking out, it's quite possible that you'd be here today. But from what you've seen, you have to realize that if you lose your head, we don't want you in Axes.
DeletedUser
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very good post fundamental,and i understand what you are saying ,but remember i was getting attacked by the whole of X ,so i was a little bit pissed off 
DeletedUser
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@delboy. Yeah but your reactions pushed us all away from giving you a place back in the tribe. Which would have happened if you hadn't acted the way you had. In my honest opinion and perspective, once kicked from Axes you did not seem to want back into Axes at all. I get that you were being assaulted, but the actions that happened afterwards just seemed to indicate that you were mad at Axes as a whole and wanted nothing to do with us. I know the person in question apologized profusely to you and yet you denied them forgiveness, which is your choice, but you also seemed to think that they were insincere. I feel for both sides of it, but I wish you had just let your anger go to the side long enough for the situation to be resolved instead of holding on to it so long that Axes had no choice but to move on from you.
And because everybody’s doing it! Sorry phylo, your fingers getting tired I bet...
QUOTE: phylo
This is Tribal Wars. The goal of the game is to keep our tribe alive and kicking for the most as possible. I use to say that a tribe only dies if it's members leave, even if they only have a small village in the rim. This game is a team game and tribes are the teams.
The goal of YOUR game is to keep your tribe alive and kicking for the most as possible. Not ours. You are correct on the matter of this being a team game, but teams pick up new players and draft them based on skill, not whether everyone is buddies. You’re trying to hijack some logic here and toss it in where it doesn’t belong. Firstly, you state correctly that the goal is to be the best. But then you state in a way that indicates Axes has not done this, that being the best means you’ve played with other adversaries (axes has) and proved you are better (who is still around? Axes). Now you say “in the spirit of the game”. That spirit is debatable and it is far from concrete as you seem to indicate. There is more than one way to have spirit, more than one way to win.
In fact, AXES wants what every tribe wants, to be the first one, to be the best. But in this kind of game, to be the best means that you played with the other adversaries and you prove you are better than them, in the spirit of the game.
I don’t think your tribe strives to be the best. I think if you did, you’d realize you’re too late to this world to have an effectively large enough account and moreover, your refusals to merge or recruit heavy hitters point to your desire to not cater to some aspects of the game. You guys seem to strive to have the most fun. Different, but not bad.
To dismiss the players that have bad luck or that didn't understand the secrets of the game yet, to recruit only the ones that are veterans and create a massive force in the world, is not in the spirit of this game. AXES wants to end up the world, using no matter what methods. That is not play the game...
See that’s Axes interpretation of the spirit of TW; sometimes it isn’t about screwing over your future for a fraction of fun. Sometimes its about looking towards a future where you see yourselves being rewarded for your patience and longevity in the world. Sometimes it sucks having to recruit someone you spent 200 nukes on. But it happens when you’re trying to win a world.
The problem is not exactly in AXES and it's goals, the problem is that the players from other tribes that leave to join AXES are not, in fact, playing Tribal Wars. They are playing Individual Wars. They simply defect, leaving their own tribe behind, with problems, to join the "winners", instead of stay and fight for their team.
Ah this… Scc was headless. Chorde was in and out with real life and he was the only one who was their leader figure in true. The rest of SCC leadership did the best they could, but for time constraints and their own personalities, they were not leadership material at that moment. They did a good job keeping their tribe together, but that is about it. Abandonment occurred fairly often in SCC's own ranks. Far before they left the SCC idea. Hmm. K, there was the SV merger, the Knock merger, the OCD deletion leftovers (of which few are left) and the SCC merger. I’m probably missing some history here, but that’s what I have. The only one I see you specifically referencing in a negative manner is the SCC merger. So let’s get down and dirty. Their leadership was offered the choice. It was discussed amongst them but not with the tribe as much, because why? They were littered with spies. SCC leadership wanted a place where there was more and better leadership and Axes offered that. I don’t see the difficulty in understanding how this was an ideal situation for both Axes and SCC. And if you want to talk about friends? Lol… I had friends in SCC and it feels amazing to not be on the other side with them anymore. Some of the stress in that matter is eased, finally.
Just imagine a football game. During the game one team realizes that the other is strong so, the strongest players of the weakest team, instead of giving their best to face the adversary, simply change sides, and you will have 6 weak players trying to resist to 16 strong ones... Of course they will give up and loose all interest in the game. The strongest team will win, probably because the other team simply leave, shouts everywhere they are the best, but they didn't, in fact, play the game...
Completely inaccurate metaphor. Scc DID fight us. You’re downgrading Scc’s contribution to the war by saying they are “weak” and that they gave up and lost interest in the game. You’re insulting SCC more than you are Axes by saying that they simply left. It’s like you decided to start picking on them instead of us. Please, criticize us for taking them in, but if you’re going to try to give an example, make sure it iterates your point rather than a different point.
If AXES manage to end up this world, it will not be because they are better players, but only because they managed to recruit the biggest ones that simply didn't want to play the game as it was ment to be played... At this moment, the need for skills and art simply desapeared, and you only find the force of numbers...
Not because we’re better players but because we recruited. And the people we recruited?? The disloyal and lazy SCC right? That’s what your argument comes down to from what I see. You can’t blame us for the other merges, but you can this one apparently. As if how we did it was not how it was meant. Puh-lease. Matter of perspective again on “how the game is played” and “the spirit of the game”. At this moment… again you seem to mean the merge! Am I wrong? Who are you really mad at phylo? Axes or former SCC?
But, of course, this is only my opinion. As this is only a game, something to spend some free time, it is really not important If this world closes, there are others. If someone gets bored, simply delete the account. I believe that the really good players are here to play the game in it's original spirit, and can't care less if it is in this world or in another one
Yup, your opinion, but I like to argue it. I can sort of see where you’re coming from, but there are a few illogical things that I’ve seen in what you’ve said. Place blame where blame is due. Axes made the offer yes, it took scc more than a month to finally accept that offer. It wasn’t done split second. It was done to achieve two different goals from each respective tribe. Axes to gain more of the world so we can close it faster and SCC to gain an active tribe with active leadership so they could rest their heads and focus on the game itself. Your opinion about players could likely be possible, but I think everyone is unique as to how they are in a world. In my mind, a good player would be one who sticks it out to maintain the tribal aspect rather than playing individual wars by deleting when bored for a moment. But that’s just my opinion.
And because everybody’s doing it! Sorry phylo, your fingers getting tired I bet...
QUOTE: phylo
This is Tribal Wars. The goal of the game is to keep our tribe alive and kicking for the most as possible. I use to say that a tribe only dies if it's members leave, even if they only have a small village in the rim. This game is a team game and tribes are the teams.
The goal of YOUR game is to keep your tribe alive and kicking for the most as possible. Not ours. You are correct on the matter of this being a team game, but teams pick up new players and draft them based on skill, not whether everyone is buddies. You’re trying to hijack some logic here and toss it in where it doesn’t belong. Firstly, you state correctly that the goal is to be the best. But then you state in a way that indicates Axes has not done this, that being the best means you’ve played with other adversaries (axes has) and proved you are better (who is still around? Axes). Now you say “in the spirit of the game”. That spirit is debatable and it is far from concrete as you seem to indicate. There is more than one way to have spirit, more than one way to win.
In fact, AXES wants what every tribe wants, to be the first one, to be the best. But in this kind of game, to be the best means that you played with the other adversaries and you prove you are better than them, in the spirit of the game.
I don’t think your tribe strives to be the best. I think if you did, you’d realize you’re too late to this world to have an effectively large enough account and moreover, your refusals to merge or recruit heavy hitters point to your desire to not cater to some aspects of the game. You guys seem to strive to have the most fun. Different, but not bad.
To dismiss the players that have bad luck or that didn't understand the secrets of the game yet, to recruit only the ones that are veterans and create a massive force in the world, is not in the spirit of this game. AXES wants to end up the world, using no matter what methods. That is not play the game...
See that’s Axes interpretation of the spirit of TW; sometimes it isn’t about screwing over your future for a fraction of fun. Sometimes its about looking towards a future where you see yourselves being rewarded for your patience and longevity in the world. Sometimes it sucks having to recruit someone you spent 200 nukes on. But it happens when you’re trying to win a world.
The problem is not exactly in AXES and it's goals, the problem is that the players from other tribes that leave to join AXES are not, in fact, playing Tribal Wars. They are playing Individual Wars. They simply defect, leaving their own tribe behind, with problems, to join the "winners", instead of stay and fight for their team.
Ah this… Scc was headless. Chorde was in and out with real life and he was the only one who was their leader figure in true. The rest of SCC leadership did the best they could, but for time constraints and their own personalities, they were not leadership material at that moment. They did a good job keeping their tribe together, but that is about it. Abandonment occurred fairly often in SCC's own ranks. Far before they left the SCC idea. Hmm. K, there was the SV merger, the Knock merger, the OCD deletion leftovers (of which few are left) and the SCC merger. I’m probably missing some history here, but that’s what I have. The only one I see you specifically referencing in a negative manner is the SCC merger. So let’s get down and dirty. Their leadership was offered the choice. It was discussed amongst them but not with the tribe as much, because why? They were littered with spies. SCC leadership wanted a place where there was more and better leadership and Axes offered that. I don’t see the difficulty in understanding how this was an ideal situation for both Axes and SCC. And if you want to talk about friends? Lol… I had friends in SCC and it feels amazing to not be on the other side with them anymore. Some of the stress in that matter is eased, finally.
Just imagine a football game. During the game one team realizes that the other is strong so, the strongest players of the weakest team, instead of giving their best to face the adversary, simply change sides, and you will have 6 weak players trying to resist to 16 strong ones... Of course they will give up and loose all interest in the game. The strongest team will win, probably because the other team simply leave, shouts everywhere they are the best, but they didn't, in fact, play the game...
Completely inaccurate metaphor. Scc DID fight us. You’re downgrading Scc’s contribution to the war by saying they are “weak” and that they gave up and lost interest in the game. You’re insulting SCC more than you are Axes by saying that they simply left. It’s like you decided to start picking on them instead of us. Please, criticize us for taking them in, but if you’re going to try to give an example, make sure it iterates your point rather than a different point.
If AXES manage to end up this world, it will not be because they are better players, but only because they managed to recruit the biggest ones that simply didn't want to play the game as it was ment to be played... At this moment, the need for skills and art simply desapeared, and you only find the force of numbers...
Not because we’re better players but because we recruited. And the people we recruited?? The disloyal and lazy SCC right? That’s what your argument comes down to from what I see. You can’t blame us for the other merges, but you can this one apparently. As if how we did it was not how it was meant. Puh-lease. Matter of perspective again on “how the game is played” and “the spirit of the game”. At this moment… again you seem to mean the merge! Am I wrong? Who are you really mad at phylo? Axes or former SCC?
But, of course, this is only my opinion. As this is only a game, something to spend some free time, it is really not important If this world closes, there are others. If someone gets bored, simply delete the account. I believe that the really good players are here to play the game in it's original spirit, and can't care less if it is in this world or in another one
Yup, your opinion, but I like to argue it. I can sort of see where you’re coming from, but there are a few illogical things that I’ve seen in what you’ve said. Place blame where blame is due. Axes made the offer yes, it took scc more than a month to finally accept that offer. It wasn’t done split second. It was done to achieve two different goals from each respective tribe. Axes to gain more of the world so we can close it faster and SCC to gain an active tribe with active leadership so they could rest their heads and focus on the game itself. Your opinion about players could likely be possible, but I think everyone is unique as to how they are in a world. In my mind, a good player would be one who sticks it out to maintain the tribal aspect rather than playing individual wars by deleting when bored for a moment.
But that’s just my opinion.
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DeletedUser
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Doesn't change a thing.
You were to busy to play the account, therefore you were of no use.
Phylo
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Look at you where??? Where are you hidden???? Look at you to learn what "Old Worlds" are??? I guess you would understand better what I ment if I have called them "Ancient Worlds" or maybe "Original Worlds" :icon_wink:
Dear, you can't teach me anything. What you know, I already forgot :icon_biggrin: I simply don't play as you do, because I don't like the way. During these last 4 years, I knew lots of players like you. They all already left :icon_wink:
DeletedUser
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they left cause they actualy have a life:icon_rolleyes:
Phylo
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Don't we all? :icon_wink:
DeletedUser
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I find your arrogance misplaced. You claim to be some kind of older tw pro, and yet I've never heard of your accomplishments, and you are in a scummy rim tribe on w41.
If you want to be a loud mouth, at least have some facts to back you up.
Phylo
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LOOOOOL, I'm the arrogant one??? At least I do my best not to offend anyone :icon_wink:
About accomplishments, you only need to browse my name in TWStats... I can't find yours anywhere, except in the arquives... And if you are soooo gooood, why play behind a co-played account, that is not even your own??? You never heard of me? No surprise, And I never heard of you in the game also. I only hear of you here in the forum, playing with words :icon_wink:
I'm not a great player, or a famous one. I never was and never said I was. There are lots of better players then I am (you are not one of them). I never liked publicity, and I prefere low profile. I'm not here to grab myself, to show myself as being better then anyone, I'm only to have fun and spend some time :icon_wink:
But, you know, I never liked kids (I don't know your age, but you talk like a kid...) that grab thenselves and talk with the others as if they were somekind of superminds :icon_wink:
If you are that good, poove it on the field, instead of hidind behind of some co-player that, as much as I know, may be the real good player of that account :icon_wink:
And I guess that this "duel of words" is enough for me. I'll be waiting for you to teach me how to play in the field. But let me know it is you, so I can pay real attention to the lesson :icon_wink:
About accomplishments, you only need to browse my name in TWStats... I can't find yours anywhere, except in the arquives... And if you are soooo gooood, why play behind a co-played account, that is not even your own??? You never heard of me? No surprise, And I never heard of you in the game also. I only hear of you here in the forum, playing with words :icon_wink:
I'm not a great player, or a famous one. I never was and never said I was. There are lots of better players then I am (you are not one of them). I never liked publicity, and I prefere low profile. I'm not here to grab myself, to show myself as being better then anyone, I'm only to have fun and spend some time :icon_wink:
But, you know, I never liked kids (I don't know your age, but you talk like a kid...) that grab thenselves and talk with the others as if they were somekind of superminds :icon_wink:
If you are that good, poove it on the field, instead of hidind behind of some co-player that, as much as I know, may be the real good player of that account :icon_wink:
And I guess that this "duel of words" is enough for me. I'll be waiting for you to teach me how to play in the field. But let me know it is you, so I can pay real attention to the lesson :icon_wink:
DeletedUser
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can someone get onto topic and start posting the numbers left?
Phylo
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mdesjarl
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I did, I got to page 5 of your ennoblements before I found something that wasn't a barb or an overnoble. :icon_eek:
Phylo
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We are all nobling inactives aren't we? :icon_wink: And. for sure, you don't believe that I got there during 4 years only with barbs, do you?
DeletedUser
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lol you realy dont know who booza is??:icon_eek: that suprises me, every one in W41 knows who he co-plays:icon_rolleyes:
and yes, he is better than you, (not saying that you aint good or something) but he is better.
btw, ask some motive guys what acc booza is playing if you realy wanna know :icon_wink:
mdesjarl
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Well lets see 1223 total w3 enoblements
of those 608 were barbs leaving
615 "live" targets....wait 371 were internals leaving
244 Live Enoblements in four years
So your right it wasn't only barbs and inactives ..... just 80.05% :icon_eek:
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Phylo
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:icon_biggrin: Yes, I am, and the others are all silly players, that let me have 10 million pt in a very tiny tribe, only because I'm pretty :lol:
