I've always been the silent co on TheMMan account, but the truth is the majority of the 4U tribe has had it out for us since the UI merge a million years ago. We were forced to join under threat of attack, so we already didn't feel at home there. No attempt was made to hear our concerns about recruitment whatsoever. All anyone wanted us to do was noble barbs and send support, which we did for the brief Echo fight and the initial PTV fight as well. Hedgehog got most of our support and he was in Watch at the time. We're not ok nobling barbs and sending spears for the rest of this world, and that's all that we were allowed to do.
Recruitment was a big sticking point for me too, trying to merge in terrible accounts all the way to the rim. We picked up Fac in the process and have a good relationship with them. Psss has been a good neighbor and player for a long time now too. But we didn't want all these barb nobling turtles that were our source of food to turn blue instead of brown, and we weren't quiet about saying that. 4U should have had 1/2 the accounts that were in the "family", and even with 70 members we had three accounts friendly to us. Not to mention trying to run an op with some of the players that shouldn't have been recruited was a disaster with some guys literally just never launching.
The 4U guys on the front line with old PTV did amazing, you guys are great players. Honestly the defensive organization in 4U was and is impressive. But the threats and verbal abuse, the terrible recruiting decisions, the exclusive barb nobling and lack of farming, and the lack of friendship with most of the tribe is what made me want out. I don't want to speak for the other guys on my account but that's what it was for me.
We just want to actually play some Tribal Wars with other players who think like us.
No one ever said to the account TheMman, that you are not allowed on frontline. Dudes were nobling barbs to come closer to frontline with ptv, and what you guys did, was internaling all the backline.. Nothing else. This was obviusly planed way before the BARB BAN on 'your' continent, because you felt threat of dudes who were trying their best to noble anything they possible can, to make deff and send it to MOST ACTIVE GUYS in the tribe. You didn't want to go on FL because you guys lack activity, and maybe knowledge, to be on the first FL, and constantly be under attacks (until the internaling started in PTV).. For me personaly, I'm not ofended by this, this happened to me many times, even the player that I was like brother with, backstabed me, because his neighbour played in the enemy tribe, just silly childlish moves.
I would rather choose to not have you in the tribe, rather than having you. The only thing you guys are capable of, is internaling inactives, nobling barbs, and now nobling those empty villages, that your ex tribemates, wasn't stupid like you, and they sent their all troops to frontline, to defend villages that we nobled from PTV. In no way possible, I don't care who is there in PTV on the frontline, facing against this team of OUR frontline guys, could never stop us.
You guys said on discord, why don't we make OP on their active guys, like chicken or saint, we tried that, we failed, it doesn't work, why doing something again when you know there is no way you can do any damage. Of course, like every other normal tribal wars players, we are going to move the frontline via their inactives, and their low class players. When you move that, and you go deep in their continent, there is more room to spread via 'empty' villages, off villages. But you are not thinking like that and that is why this is happening.
You guys wanted to rule the tribe, especially Fac, doing shit like banning barb nobling, and that was ok to me, at first I didn't agree, because of lack deff on the FL again, THAT YOU GUYS DIDN'T SENT!!! and then when I said to him, ok now when you are free to farm, with that barb ban, now you can send you deff to FL, he said ok I will. He sent 10k spears 10k swords and maybe like 2k HC. Being at the time the biggest account in the tribe, that is poor. Not helping your teammates, is not what tribal wars are. And I will stand with that forever, as long as I am playing this game. If you wanted to come to FL, to play more, to get in war more, you could, but you didn't want to. Because you guys are those kind of players. Backliners who are raising their accounts by nobling people who quit, who can't play anymore and then they gift their villages to tribe, as normal.
And I don't even want to talk about your 'war' with MEDUSA tribe, that was just, making me sick as a player of this game. Not being able to take down 1m points tribe, as you had them surrounded, while your guys growth was so big, and you had so much off villages, that you needed that barb ban, so you can farm more, mint more coins, and still not being able to take them in 2 OP's..
Dude, I can't remember nick from the guy who sent his nobles for 30h on medusa, what is that? hhahahahah you guys are joke, not all of you, Pss guys are great and awesome, and that is the only thing I regret in this backstabing, and what hurt me the most.But this dudes, Mman and Fac, some children, wanting atention, and now here you have it boys and girls. Atention you wanted.
Just thank your God, you two account's, that we guys that are on FL with PTV, don't have villages around yours. Ohhh that would be fun, you would regret your move to PTV like immediately. But hey, everyone has their luck, and this is yours.
And I would have a lot more to say here, and I just saw how much already I wrote. It's enough. Take care boys.
We may not win the world, but neither you guys will.
(even though their op timing isn't A+ they are selfless). I don't know wally at all but I don't have anything against him. We didn't need all of OD. And when we mentioned this to leadership we were cast as complainers and whiners. Like how dare we be upset that the only targets with decent morale were just added to the academy? Also to be fair the one that upset us the most was angelkod but he got banned and the cleanup on his account was swift. Still there were others, anumberforcoke, SolarRoi, Cekseh, I could keep going. Look at k54 and there literally isn't a single barb left because the recruiting was wide open there was no other food to be had. And then look at k53, there was your top 5 accounts. Not because we were inactive barb noblers but because we actually had player villages to noble and barbs to farm. When you have resources and don't have to build villages from 1k points you can chase the top accounts. We can't play any other way. It's not good to take all players in because it just makes holes in the armor if they aren't good. Their villages are better used by the better players, even if it costs troops to get them. Recruiting decisions isolated and frustrated us. 
