Pushing is a Premade thing

THE MURPH ALL CAPS

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Pushing is a premade thing. Remove premades and you won't have it nearly as bad! However, I understand people want to play with their friends etc so allow them but you have to limit it. Uber support is excellent. But if you add in premades can only pre-register and take out all the friend invite / relocate crap you'll have proper start up wars and less pushing. Tribal wars spawns premades in the core semi randomly and BOOM. No more pushing issues!

The idea of premades being able to strategically plan their world out exactly and make sure premades don't spawn together is also ridiculous. Having a 'perfect spread' etc are all garbage concepts.

I'm going to be honest here. Every premade that joined this world (and there's lots) utilised pushing in some form. It is tribal wars' biggest downfall of the modern game.

"4. Creating and/or using one or more accounts for the primary benefit of another account ("pushing"), as well as profiting from such behavior, is forbidden."

The rule is a line long and all you have to do is A use a proxy or B ask a friend to build you a village. Incredibly easy to do.

How many of the last no haul world wins were a premade? All of them. So what I am proposing going forward is the following:

A All premades should have to pre-register. No relocation item. No start over. No choosing starting direction. The core is a difficult place to survive and would even up the playing field and make it really fun. Outside of premades you CANNOT choose your starting location meaning it's good ol old school tribal wars.

Although everyone gives out about the rules being insufficient it's the experienced pre-mades doing the majority of the pushing. I read the below in another thread and wholeheartedly agree with the suggestions below.

The supposed 'pushing' rules imposed were not fit for purpose and were not comprehensive enough with so many holes. However, it was a good starting point.

- Fully disallow nobbling someone you've invited to the world (at the very least for a high amount of time if not permanent)
  1. Would stamp out "non-professional" pushers.
    i.e. those that simply invite and take over.
  2. Would work if the village in question wouldn't be owned by the said player that you've invited
    yes, it would make evading possible by having someone else noble it 1st - that would add difficulty and effort required (which would be a significant hit early game) and would create a clearer pattern if and when support looks at it
Possible things to include/check/depend on to implement/enforce it:
- Friends list
- Tribe membership
- Choosing the start/relocate near x player
 

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It's like half smart idea and then half terrible ideas and differs based on pp/non pp world issues


Honestly the simplest and quickest/easiest fix is just removing the relocate item completely. If you want to play on the rim then you have to join the world later no relocating a day later. This however isn't really a huge deal for pp worlds since premades can just join later and catch up with pp and the. Next milestone won't be for like 4 years.

The limit of nobling someone you or your tribe have invited to the world for the first 90 days or so would be good similar to the 40 day no merge and coplay. You can just spam invite people around you to donate or pretend to not push for you. Etc.
 

THE MURPH ALL CAPS

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It's like half smart idea and then half terrible ideas and differs based on pp/non pp world issues


Honestly the simplest and quickest/easiest fix is just removing the relocate item completely. If you want to play on the rim then you have to join the world later no relocating a day later. This however isn't really a huge deal for pp worlds since premades can just join later and catch up with pp and the. Next milestone won't be for like 4 years.

The limit of nobling someone you or your tribe have invited to the world for the first 90 days or so would be good similar to the 40 day no merge and coplay. You can just spam invite people around you to donate or pretend to not push for you. Etc.

Shit you're right. I completely forgot p2w was a thing since I don't play or use the features. See you in 4 years for the next milestone so.

PS: Remove inviting a friend to your location completely. Because you can just ask someone in game near you to invite players for you or just spawn accounts until you get one near yours and invite from that account (no link to your account)
 

Free Mason

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You could even limit the amount of account could pre reg. so you could have a 25 member tribe limit for a 7 member pre reg limit. Considering most of the other 18 are push accounts for the first 7
 

Tueur De Roi

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I feel like much no hauls or not having premium this would actually increase the impact of pushing if anything
It really does, if the TW staff had even been slightly serious about investigating push accounts it would have done a lot to make sure the game was more fair for everyone. But since the few punishments that have been handed out, if any at all, are so weak and laughably pathetic we're the suckers.
 

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monomentor

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True it's much better to start scattered around the world and infiltrate other tribes leaderships and then proceed to make 51 academy tribes.

I agree. People scattered around many tribes are far more likely to cause any integrity damage to a world, as opposed to say...

40+ players that randomly start a world, all nuke for a certain tribe, and once the 40 day rule gets removed, suddenly all gift to said certain tribe. By that time, since these people weren't banned for "teamwork" and their ODA is increased due to just having multiple villages now, these 40 accounts with an average of 3 villages each + having nuked at least a village each surely don't count for 160 free, totally non-boosted villages. No, that was legit.

But imagine having 1 person on the opposite side of the map, that's the real danger to game integrity. Imagine what that person can do! Can't be internalled if they do anything suspicious, of course.
 

Tha Rule

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The rules are working well. Nobody is pushing here except clowns. :cool:
No There not, They are Banning for internal tribe members that have quit and gifted there villages and calling it PUSHING... You ask how do i know cause It just happen to myself, Witch is such BS!
 

Eakshow McGee

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No There not, They are Banning for internal tribe members that have quit and gifted there villages and calling it PUSHING... You ask how do i know cause It just happen to myself, Witch is such BS!

Dude, Internal/Gifting is included under the new rule, get over it, you got free villages...

If internal/gifting would be allowed, how would that in any way not just allow push acc dropping villages left and right?
 

Timothy Mus

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No There not, They are Banning for internal tribe members that have quit and gifted there villages and calling it PUSHING... You ask how do i know cause It just happen to myself, Witch is such BS!

Go and read the rules. You are not even allowed to do it lmao
 
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