Questions Regarding Paladin

thesafeone

Guest
I have following questions regarding the paladins

1. What is the fastest way to get weapons for him?
Attacking same village over and over again or different village everytime?

2. If I sent him with a NUKE and all the NUKE dies, will he die as well or return?
if he dies, what happens to his weapon? He loses it or he gets it back when we re-train him.
 

DeletedUser2386

Guest
1. You gain 3% per day minimum. This is raised for every unit he kills.
It would be best to use him in attacks which actually kill a lot of units.

2. The weapons are permenant, you even keep them if you restart.
 

pyker42

Guest
I thought it was 3% per attack....
3% per day on a speed one server.

Gaining OD, whether by attacking or defending, is the only way to increase it. If the village is empty it won't help you gain more on the weapons finding meter, regardless of how many times you hit it.
 

thesafeone

Guest
thanx guys.

got some more questions

as mentioned if there is a palay in a vill and new palay is trained in another, the first palay just disappear. Any idea when he disappear?
- the moment we order the training of another
- or the moment the new palay is ready.

if in a village there are multiple palay (from different players) and all of them have different weapons (lets say 1 palay with spear and another with sword), will all of those palay and weapons will have their bonus?

if in a village there are multiple palay (from different players) and all of them have same weapon (lets say there are 2 palay with spears), will all of those bonus be applied.?
 

pyker42

Guest
as mentioned if there is a palay in a vill and new palay is trained in another, the first palay just disappear. Any idea when he disappear?
- the moment we order the training of another
- or the moment the new palay is ready.
It's called re-stationing the pally, and as soon as you start to re-station him in another village, he is no longer available in the village he was in prior to you re-stationing him.

if in a village there are multiple palay (from different players) and all of them have different weapons (lets say 1 palay with spear and another with sword), will all of those palay and weapons will have their bonus?
Yes, different pally weapons stack.

if in a village there are multiple palay (from different players) and all of them have same weapon (lets say there are 2 palay with spears), will all of those bonus be applied.?
No, the same weapons do not stack, only different ones.
 

thesafeone

Guest
thanks.

here is another question...little noobish

Can I send palay alone for raids on barbs? someone mentioned elsewhere that it should only be sent with other troops..
 

pyker42

Guest
Yes, you can send the pally by itself. Of course, you get more if you send spears with it, though. It also has the added benefit of helping to keep your spears alive on early farming runs.
 

thesafeone

Guest
isn't 20sp and 5 sw team can survive on its own, without pally?
 

pyker42

Guest
Yes, because of the swords (barring any troops in the village).

You can use the pally instead of the swords, or before you have swords. And, you can send the pally along as well to increase your hauls.
 

thesafeone

Guest
its been mentioned many time that using palay in raids increases his weapon search, but are there any numbers for that..like how many troops it need to kill to get 1%...or something like that..
 

pyker42

Guest
The weapons meter increases at a flat 3% per day for a speed one server.

To get a greater increase, you must gain OD (opponents defeated). So, basically, you have to actually kill troops, not just send the pally on raids.

There is a formula to figure out how much OD will gain you how much of an increase, but I have no clue what it is.
 

thesafeone

Guest
thanks.

So how many minimum spears needed for a successful raid on a barb without any lose?
 

pyker42

Guest
Depends on whether or not the village has a wall and your luck.

If you have a pally, though, use it.
 

thesafeone

Guest
lets say the vill has no wall and I face the worst luck?

using palay with spears will slow down pally's speed..
 

pyker42

Guest
Try using the simulator. It will tell you better than I could (without having to do the same simulations).

And, yes, the pally is slowed down by spears. That isn't that big of a deal very early game, though. And a bit later, you should be farming with LC which travel at the same speed as pallys.
 

simbro

Guest
all things being even, 33 spear all survive an undefended, no walled village. the number rises to 65 if you assume luck in bad, real bad :) but having a few axe escort helps out. swordmen will help too but slow down the troops.
it is unlikley the barbs will make walls early on but if you start loosing troops on an empty village with fair luck, investigate the village buildings.

And thanks to pyker42 for clearing up some questions I had about the Paladin. In honour I shall rename mine after you ;-)
 

DeletedUser25046

Guest
1. You gain 3% per day minimum. This is raised for every unit he kills.
It would be best to use him in attacks which actually kill a lot of units.

2. The weapons are permenant, you even keep them if you restart.
this is to you and pyker42 i'm not 100% sure on this more like 92% sure that ODD does nothing to help find a weapon


i know for a fact ODA does me and my freind started same day i have all weapons she's short 5 my ODA is millions over heres. are ODD is about the same.
 

pyker42

Guest
this is to you and pyker42 i'm not 100% sure on this more like 92% sure that ODD does nothing to help find a weapon
You should listen to your 8% more often. It is more correct than the 92% part. :icon_wink:

i know for a fact ODA does me and my freind started same day i have all weapons she's short 5 my ODA is millions over heres. are ODD is about the same.
Yes, ODA does help increase the finding meter. So does ODD. You know why? They are both representative of troops you kill in battle, which is how you actually get the increase. Killing troops.

I find it funny that you justify your knowledge by citing an example of you having all the weapons because you have millions more ODA than another player, but you have the same amount of ODD. Now, while you are correct that this clearly shows ODA effects the finding meter, how exactly does it prove that ODD doesn't?

(I'll give you a hint, it doesn't.)