Ram would like to point out!

KarmaX

Still Going Strong
I am not starting a flame here, but PHOENX has a hidden academy that the world should know :p :lol:

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These were before moroccon left the tribe and archon, asama and her were attacking this village. Not a co-incidence aye?
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KarmaX

Still Going Strong
Well, I was having a small skirmish with Tony, but later we sorted it out. During that time, PHOENX and SMURFS co-ordinated on one of our players, since then we have been eating them up. Also, recently I took a village in the heart of PHOENX, and again, there was a joint attack of SMURFS and PHOENX on that village, which is not logical for SMURFS to attack, and can't be a mere co-incidence for PHOENX to mass nuke the same village as well.
 

Mick876

Contributing Poster
So your methodology is that if anyone attacks you that are not in Phoenix then they are in some kind of Phoenix academy? So using the same principles because D2 and D2a attack us they are your academy? By your methodology right? :icon_idea:
 

MR.MR

Contributing Poster
Why add D2/D2a in? Ram is not affiliated with D2 in the manner that they are with Drift. There is little to no coordination between the two. They are neighboring tribes with a mutual enemy.
So your methodology is that if anyone attacks you that are not in Phoenix then they are in some kind of Phoenix academy? So using the same principles because D2 and D2a attack us they are your academy? By your methodology right? :icon_idea:
To further this, if you (RAM) says that Smurfs are our "academy" for attacking the same targets, then D2 and D2a immediately are academies of RAM, just look at the ennoblement histories of Archon of the End and Kevmasterzoc... You will see plenty of coordination in attacks from RAM, DRIFT, D2 and D2a. I know firsthand from sitting those accounts that there was coordination in the ops on them.

I could accuse Phoenx of the same. Like how asalamalakum is up in caps on RAM. Yet, he's down a million points since the start of the war? :icon_rolleyes:
http://forum.tribalwars.net/showpost.php?p=5435759&postcount=1053
At the point of that post, I was up on caps to RAM. Now, between cat damage and captures, I am down 100k points on the war, and down on caps overall, most likely. I started the war at 3.9mil points ;) But that matters not now, and there is no need to debate this point further.
 

KarmaX

Still Going Strong
I think you have interpreted it in a different manner. PHOENX has good co-ordination with SMURFS, and are using them as their academy and interns. D2 are friends of RAM but are independent on their targets and co-ordination. That is the only difference. Yes, DRIFT/RAM co-ordinate, and we don't hide it, haven't from the very start, unlike PHOENX.

That is my point of view, as you have your own methodology I guess:

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Kd 53 is our Home Turf.
Kd 54 is our Home Turf.
Kd 55 is our Home Turf.
Kd 62 is our Home Turf.
Kd 63 is our Home Turf.
Kd 64 is our Home Turf.
Kd 65 is our Home Turf.
Kd 73 is our Home Turf.
Kd 74 is our Home Turf.
Kd 75 is our Home Turf.
Kd 83 is our Home Turf.
Kd 84 is our Home Turf.
Kd 85 is our Home Turf.
Kd 93 is our Home Turf.
Kd 94 is our Home Turf.
Stay Off Our Turf.


Either get down, or we put you down.
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Cal, help me out here. Is the dominance map posted wrong, am I having hallucination or is there some other reason for this? :icon_rolleyes:
 

Get RAMmed

Non-stop Poster
"i would like" and fact are two different things.. but apparently when the accusations are coming from Ram's camp.. screenshots count again?
I find it funny you accuse me of being indirect and deflecting accusations. I'll put another tally next to hypocrite.


Just look at ozzyfudd account situation.. noobaxes confirms your entire leadership crew knew and was a part of that scenario... Yet MY proof is unacceptable, while yours is fully acceptable? :icon_rolleyes:
You have hearsay and circumstantial evidence. There's a lawyer in your tribe, she can explain it to you. :icon_rolleyes: You made a pretty convincing argument, but at the end of the day, that's all it is.

I wasnt the liar in the pnp posting about how i only recruit actives, and how Ram was at its most active ever!!
Hey man, you seem to forget what Pnp stands for. Politics and Propoganda. You ever met a politician who wasn't crooked?

But hey, again, screenshots, dated forum posts, and confessions only count if they are stated and put into circulation by Shipley. :icon_rolleyes:
I don't give a rats ass what Shipley does. I don't answer to him, or anyone for that matter.

Believe i have answered it... karma stated your recruitment policies were strict.. so why did you recruit mrsox, captg, and kanipuppeli?
*ahem* meat shields is the term your looking for.....
They took me. How strict can their policies be? :lol:

And if you bothered to check the stats, Phoenx vs ram/drift over 3 months is a 22 village lead to you. You call that victory? how about you add in the d2 stats, as Phoenx did declare on your patsies...And what have you got?

And if you bother to check more recently, like last two weeks... wonder who is winning now??
As arrogant as you are, you'd think you had a 2200 village lead over us. You've got nothing to be proud of, as RAM has lost almost no ground, yet you've lost almost 2 K's.

Sure, you're doing alright against D2. Congrats.

Yeah, nothing significant happened with RAM in the last two weeks. That's all Phoenx skill, it has absolutely nothing to do with the other tribe that declared. :icon_rolleyes:

Be sure to thank Decide. And tell 'em thanks from me as well, I haven't thanked them for my new villages yet. :lol:
 

Pajuno

Contributing Poster
I think you have interpreted it in a different manner. PHOENX has good co-ordination with SMURFS, and are using them as their academy and interns. D2 are friends of RAM but are independent on their targets and co-ordination. That is the only difference. Yes, DRIFT/RAM co-ordinate, and we don't hide it, haven't from the very start, unlike PHOENX.
What delusional world do you live in? You show me ONE coordination of ANYTHING between smurf and Phoenx, and you will actually score some kind of point. Its all fabrications in your mind.


Smurfs are so noob, they did not even know that Phoenx was already fighting Ram....




I find it funny you accuse me of being indirect and deflecting accusations. I'll put another tally next to hypocrite.

How am i a hypocrite? I have screenshots, email account traced to a real life Facebook friend of one C shipley... and my information/facts are FALSIFIED DOCUMENTS>


You have one mail, screenshotted as well, and its given as living prooof that Phoenx was going to instate an academy....

Im the hypocrite?



You have hearsay and circumstantial evidence. There's a lawyer in your tribe, she can explain it to you. :icon_rolleyes: You made a pretty convincing argument, but at the end of the day, that's all it is.
Your right... a confession from Grummit that he personally handed the Pw to shipley, followed by confirmation from several members of your leadership team. *shrug*


You are right.. i have the bloody glove, video recorded proof, a visible paper trail via TW.net and facebook, as well as several witnesses.. vs one Screenshotted mail... and i am presenting "circumstantial evidence"....


Get real, dood.,.. your name is not Get rammed.. it should be Get real.


Hey man, you seem to forget what Pnp stands for. Politics and Propoganda. You ever met a politician who wasn't crooked?
Considering i cannot "meet" myself, then yes, you are correct...


I don't give a rats ass what Shipley does. I don't answer to him, or anyone for that matter.
Funny part of ram diplomacy.. Shipley claims none of it is real if it does not come notarized from him personally... So you, karma the liar, and everyone else can say whatever you want.. it doesnt matter!! Only SHIPLEY's words count from ram..> per order the Duke of Ram, one CSHipley...

So who is the liar?


They took me. How strict can their policies be? :lol:
Point proven, no need to continue further.


As arrogant as you are, you'd think you had a 2200 village lead over us. You've got nothing to be proud of, as RAM has lost almost no ground, yet you've lost almost 2 K's.
Of course "ram" hasnt lost any ground.. you have d2 meatshields put into place almost a full year ago!! We are holding our own against almost 100 players... vs 27.

i dont understand what it is YOU are boasting/bragging about!! You are being embarrassed by 26 members!!


Sure, you're doing alright against D2. Congrats.

Doing alright, while holding our own against ram/drift. YOu have a 3 to 1 odds against us.. and you still have the nerve to open your mouth and talk shit? You are a NOBODY. :icon_biggrin:


Yeah, nothing significant happened with RAM in the last two weeks. That's all Phoenx skill, it has absolutely nothing to do with the other tribe that declared. :icon_rolleyes:

Oh!! Precisely as predicted!!! Here come the EXCUSES!!!

Excuse number one is in the books already!!!



Yeah, nothing significant happened with RAM in the last two weeks. That's all Phoenx skill, it has absolutely nothing to do with the other tribe that declared. :icon_rolleyes:
Be sure to thank Decide. And tell 'em thanks from me as well, I haven't thanked them for my new villages yet. :lol:
Real cocky.. rumor has it that one of your new recruits has already been demoted to Drift.. is this true? ANd you are bragging of a few villages up while losing an entire account?? o_O


What is Ram's "tribal goals" if this is indeed true?? :icon_rolleyes:
 

lrizkyr

Still Going Strong
I think you have interpreted it in a different manner. PHOENX has good co-ordination with SMURFS, and are using them as their academy and interns. D2 are friends of RAM but are independent on their targets and co-ordination. That is the only difference. Yes, DRIFT/RAM co-ordinate, and we don't hide it, haven't from the very start, unlike PHOENX.
lol kramax u are all bad...
u are telling me that when the op on my account started u werent coordinating with d2??
lol then that was a big coincidence then!
and the more scaring coincidence is that u didnt crossnobled :icon_eek:
 

r2d3

Contributing Poster
the more scaring coincidence is that u didnt crossnobled
Definition of "karma" most probably there rizky. Nothing to do with shared forums and ops... :icon_wink:
 

Get RAMmed

Non-stop Poster
How am i a hypocrite? I have screenshots, email account traced to a real life Facebook friend of one C shipley... and my information/facts are FALSIFIED DOCUMENTS>

You have one mail, screenshotted as well, and its given as living prooof that Phoenx was going to instate an academy....

Im the hypocrite?
I never said they were falsified. I said it was a nice story, and somewhat convincing, but I didn't believe it.

You were caught red-handed trying to do the thing you've berated and insulted RAM for doing. Yeah, that makes you a hypocrite. :icon_rolleyes:

Your right... a confession from Grummit that he personally handed the Pw to shipley, followed by confirmation from several members of your leadership team. *shrug*
Anyone can say anything. Also, there was no harm done by this alleged hi-jacking. It also happened like 4 months ago. You can scream about it until your blue in the face, but I don't believe you.

You are right.. i have the bloody glove, video recorded proof, a visible paper trail via TW.net and facebook, as well as several witnesses.. vs one Screenshotted mail... and i am presenting "circumstantial evidence"....
Dude, i don't know what you've been smoking, but there's no vs.

These are two entirely different things. They have nothing to do with each other. You just randomly brought up the ozzyfudd thing to distract and discredit the mail.

Get real, dood.,.. your name is not Get rammed.. it should be Get real.
...Good one? I guess? Hope you didn't spend too long coming up with that one.

pajuno said:
Considering i cannot "meet" myself, then yes, you are correct...
I wish I could live in your grandiose magical dream world where I believed all the shit that came out of my own mouth. :icon_rolleyes:

pajuno said:
Funny part of ram diplomacy.. Shipley claims none of it is real if it does not come notarized from him personally... So you, karma the liar, and everyone else can say whatever you want.. it doesnt matter!! Only SHIPLEY's words count from ram..> per order the Duke of Ram, one CSHipley...
Shipley DOES NOT speak for me. You're arguments keep getting more and more ridiculous. I mean seriously, instead of making any good points you spew this kind of garbage.

pajuno said:
So who is the liar?
You. Show me where I've ever lied, and then I'll show you denying you had plans to merge and start an academy with D2 in the same post as you're screen-shotted planning to do exactly that. :icon_rolleyes:

pajuno said:
Point proven, no need to continue further.
Well, apparently you don't know what sarcasm is. :icon_eek:

Since joining this account I'm at about 120-0 in enemy caps. But I'm a nooby RAM player. :icon_rolleyes:

pajuno said:
Of course "ram" hasnt lost any ground.. you have d2 meatshields put into place almost a full year ago!! We are holding our own against almost 100 players... vs 27.
Wait!? I thought you declared on D2? The tribe you declared on is now nothing more than a RAM meat shield? Funny how these things change to fit your current argument.

pajuno said:
i dont understand what it is YOU are boasting/bragging about!! You are being embarrassed by 26 members!!
If you want to continue to claim that our whold tribe is warring you can go ahead, it's not true. I had not sent a single troop your way the whole war until about 2 weeks ago. But I've been warring you that whole 3 months that we never exchanged attacks and that none of my defense was out there. :icon_rolleyes: Most of the people up in my neck of the woods have had nothing to do with Phoenx at all.

pajuno said:
Doing alright, while holding our own against ram/drift. YOu have a 3 to 1 odds against us.. and you still have the nerve to open your mouth and talk shit? You are a NOBODY. :icon_biggrin:
Oh wow. Personal insults. How... mature.[/quote]

pajuno said:
Oh!! Precisely as predicted!!! Here come the EXCUSES!!!
Lol. If you wanna pretend that Decide declaring doesn't help you at all, go ahead. But you'll be the only person who believes that.

pajuno said:
Real cocky.. rumor has it that one of your new recruits has already been demoted to Drift.. is this true? ANd you are bragging of a few villages up while losing an entire account?? o_O
That's what happens when players give up on their accounts. It was unfortunate. :icon_confused:

I'm a few villages up ATM, due to the extreme length of my travel times. Don't worry though, I'm gonna be up more than a few here shortly. :icon_cool:

pajuno said:
What is Ram's "tribal goals" if this is indeed true?? :icon_rolleyes:
Ask Shipley, only he can speak for RAM :lol:
 

Moroccantreasures

Active Member
Smurfs are NOT a phoenix academy the ones that gave up are quitters or eaten and the others are just putting up a fight and not being as easy food. Admirable actually and likely will make them better players for some other world.
Just because people of different tribes fight back or don't quit doesn't make them the academies of all the other tribes they are warring with ;)
 

SOLDIER 1st Class

Still Going Strong
Smurfs are NOT a phoenix academy the ones that gave up are quitters or eaten and the others are just putting up a fight and not being as easy food. Admirable actually and likely will make them better players for some other world.
Just because people of different tribes fight back or don't quit doesn't make them the academies of all the other tribes they are warring with ;)
Smurfs :icon_razz:

They aren't the real ones.

The original Smurfs are a group of 1337 players.
 

calarasi.

Guest
too small, too inactive, no skill? or they wanted the owner on another account :)