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Well, science could be blamed too and and most likely it tops religion when it comes to the number of people dying.
Actually thats not true, state one thing that a HUGE amount of people died because of science?
Well, science could be blamed too and and most likely it tops religion when it comes to the number of people dying.
Actually thats not true, state one thing that a HUGE amount of people died because of science?
Well, what is science?
Does it have to do anything with material progress?
Technology and so on...
Knowledge (as in science) doesn't kill people. People kill people. I don't think anything truly scientific (not like race-theories, since that's obviously not serious science, but a justification made up by men) to go and kill people. Religion on the other hand is the perfect tool for it.
Knowledge (as in science) doesn't kill people. People kill people. I don't think anything truly scientific (not like race-theories, since that's obviously not serious science, but a justification made up by men) to go and kill people. Religion on the other hand is the perfect tool for it.
race because one race is superior to other? Then obviously that's not because of religion.WWII was mainly caused by religion/race, not science.
Crusades (land yes, but for the religion), Witch hunts, etc etc
Actually it does, religion,language,color was pretty much what determined enemies.
Not likely. It was the faithful who fought tooth and nail against the whole concept of medicine. In fact today the "holy" are still fighting against vaccinations in Africa just as they have done for centuries. Your statement could have possibly been true if you had said that the atheists have killed more than the religious (taking into consideration the stalinists and the nazis) but I still would doubt the truth in such a statement.Well, science could be blamed too and and most likely it tops religion when it comes to the number of people dying.
So many great scientific men and women have been murdered by the religious if they dared to publicize their studies or even look through telescopes in the past. All these people were doing was bettering our species through their studies and could have saved many more lives than they did. Great men like Galileo (who was put on house arrest after declaring the world was not flat) and Socrates (who was sentenced to death for stating that gods may not exist). Nevermind the countless others who we cannot document that were burned at the stake by the religious. At almost every point in our past the organized religions have opposed science. Science has definitely saved lives from meeting an untimely death. It can be proven. The same cannot be said for religion. We can however document many many many instances when religious belief was the reason lives were taken.
Not likely. It was the faithful who fought tooth and nail against the whole concept of medicine. In fact today the "holy" are still fighting against vaccinations in Africa just as they have done for centuries.
I didn't know Nazis were Atheist. Well, a percentage might have been but not all of them.Your statement could have possibly been true if you had said that the atheists have killed more than the religious (taking into consideration the stalinists and the nazis) but I still would doubt the truth in such a statement.
So many great scientific men and women have been murdered by the religious if they dared to publicize their studies or even look through telescopes in the past. All these people were doing was bettering our species through their studies and could have saved many more lives than they did. Great men like Galileo (who was put on house arrest after declaring the world was not flat) and Socrates (who was sentenced to death for stating that gods may not exist). Nevermind the countless others who we cannot document that were burned at the stake by the religious. At almost every point in our past the organized religions have opposed science. Science has definitely saved lives from meeting an untimely death. It can be proven. The same cannot be said for religion. We can however document many many many instances when religious belief was the reason lives were taken.
The topic of this thread is pretty stupid or the question being raised is ignorant. Or people just like going offtopic. :icon_confused:As for my opinion on this topic; go read Cristopher Hitchens' Book; God is not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything. Then you will have my opinion. It's an excellent book.
Not all religions are barbaric.I honestly do believe that had our species never created the few organized religions that exist, we'd have been much better off. Unfortunately our brains are not developed enough to have prevented such a barbaric thing from happening. I'm a baptised catholic btw :icon_wink:
Science took Social Darwinism and applied to their colonies.
Experiments were performed on them, they were killed and so on.
I meant to say European powers. WAs tired and i forgot to write that down.Erm, no, science did not "take" Social Darwinism and apply it somewhere.
Instituion lolScience is not something like a religion, a form of institution with real power and some sort of an objective. Erm, no, science did not "take" Social Darwinism and apply it somewhere. Science is not something like a religion, a form of institution with real power and some sort of an objective. It's funny really, how people defending religion put science on the same level as religion. There is no "leading scientist" that tells other scientists what to believe, or there is no other science, which rivals with science number 1. Science is science...
People apply the things that science "reveals" to us.
The person pulled the trigger. You can't say you can't blame science but you can blame religion. :icon_neutral:So you can't blame science for the death of a person shot by a firearms. Science did not pull the trigger. And yes, this can be extended to religion. But where science is simply logic, religion is not. It is made by men and used by men to achieve goals they set out for themselves.
You were in the same situation and did all that but killed in the name of God then you would be on the same postition. Not much of a difference, right?You use the internet, obviously. It was created due to military research. Now, if you were to send some sort of virus out there, to infect all computers and to cause chaos, resulting in the meltdown of nuclear power plants and the death of millions. Would you blame science for the deaths? After all, science (which is poorly defined at the moment) created the internet. You can try that in court, but I'd be preparing myself for prison time then if I were you
I know very well the difference between the two.Also, you're mixing up theories (like
social Darwinism) and material inventions through science (like the hourglass). I don't know why you do it, but you can't compare it...
Well, I can't say that there might have not been a single atheist.No, nazi's weren't atheists at all. Religious beliefs were also somewhat used to strengthen racial purity. But in general, religion had nothing to do with WWI and it fell rather silent in WWII (a reason for a hefty debate on religious policies during WWII).
The Bible says that God exists and the Bible is always right because it was inspired by God, therefore God exists.
Giggles.
Cookies are the origin of the creation of the universe, because John Doe wrote a book about it and he was inspired by god, therefore Cookies are the origin of the creation of the universe.
Same thing really...
lol wow not only was I infracted, they deleted my entire post. Apparently disdain for the faithful is not allowed here.