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DeletedUser

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Being the core leader that you are, I would have assumed that you would have known that the Super Tribe idea was Apoc's and not mine. It was after we were asked (many times) to join Apoc, and refused, that we were presented with the Super Tribe idea. There was no way that we were ever going to join a huge family tribe.

As for loyalty, I always put tribe and friends first and those who knew me would know that. The things that happened in MIM were out of my power and were not instigated by me. I have never betrayed anyone in TW nor in RL so I suggest you watch your mouth when you are making accusations like that.

There is no real tribe leading rankings, you are nothing more then sausage meat, speaking comparitively.
 

DeletedUser

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Zurtle said:
With all due respect Andrew (none)
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Your ability to disappoint seems unconfined.
Zurtle said:
you are somewhat mistaken and deluded as to the situation regarding the leadership of apoc and the proposed supertribe. Perhaps that is because you were always absent. Having already ran the idea past every Apoc leader and gained marginal support, including their lists as to who they would include from their tribe in the tribe should one be created, the next step would have been very easily accomplished. The fact is it didn't happen because I didn't trust -MM- full stop. Had I trusted them, it would have happened, with a majority of Apoc joining, with or without you.
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Now who has delusions of grandeur? I'm glad I gave myself sufficient wiggle room on the "individuals barrelling ahead"!

I know very well that there was some discussion and a "discovery" exercise performed. As you said, the support was marginal. I think we all liked the idea of the super tribe, after all we have always been very keen on accelerating the end of this world. However, regardless of whether the concept was interesting, the reality was, in order to make the tribe, many of our loyal followers would have not made the cut. That was unacceptable to me and, I suspect, to just about every other leader.

I trusted the members of Apoc (no matter how small) far more than MM (which you clearly agree with). Furthermore we, as leaders, owe our members (no matter how small) far more than we owe an opportunistic friend today, Judas tomorrow. Little did I know that we already had a few of those in our ranks.

If your vision was as widely held as you suggest Apoc, or Apoc and BA (let alone Apoc, BA and MM) would have/could have formed a super-tribe long ago. We didn't because noone really wanted to.

I am more than aware of your desperate attempt to assert your credentials as "supreme leader" in the power-vacuum that you believed had been left by Zain during his RL absence. You apporached me about teaming up more than once. I suspect you did the same with other leaders too. The sad fact (for you) was that noone was quite as keen to adopt the out-and-out feudal system as you were; not with Apoc-D at least and certainly not with you at the head!

P.S. Given your seeming contempt for me you will ignored henceforth...
 
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DeletedUser

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Andrew Done said:
I am more than aware of your desperate attempt to assert your credentials as "supreme leader" in the power-vacuum that you believed had been left by Zain during his RL absence. You apporached me about teaming up more than once. I suspect you did the same with other leaders too. The sad fact (for you) was that noone was quite as keen to adopt the out-and-out feudal system as you were; not with Apoc-D at least and certainly not with you at the head!.
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Wow, you really were clueless. More so than I thought. Your memory is also very faulty, as I never approached anyone about "teaming up", including you.
 

DeletedUser

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Logged here after some time to check whats going on and same things over and over again.
Soooo plz can you guys show some respect for someone else goodbye thread and continue conversation somewhere else...

Thank you

Back on topic

Mike,you was the one of the best w18 players...really glad that we met each other and played this game together. Oh,check your PM and stay in touch:)
 

DeletedUser54047

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maddawgmike said:
friarstale claims to be the best player in this game. just ask him. was fun to have someone nearby to attack. he is quite a funny guy.
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MadDawgMike:
you taught me how to defend!
Thank you
it was an honor to be your foe
and you were the one who kicked our ass as altyknight?
too cool

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46. Dengue Hemorrhagic Fever (641|475) K46 9,460 maddawgmike [|TF|p1] FriarsTale [Apoc-C] 2010-07-31 05:59:30
Barbarian village (907|722) K79 9,451 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-07-26 05:51:35
Barbarian village (925|775) K79 9,463 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-07-24 22:29:58
Barbarian village (892|728) K78 9,651 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-07-09 19:37:37
Barbarian village (891|728) K78 9,773 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-07-09 17:21:21
Barbarian village (890|728) K78 9,512 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-07-09 03:19:52
Barbarian village (885|747) K78 8,750 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-07-08 19:16:25
Barbarian village (889|729) K78 8,317 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-07-08 18:49:02
Barbarian village (891|747) K78 9,875 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-07-08 08:25:32
Barbarian village (910|754) K79 10,214 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-07-06 10:51:42
Barbarian village (858|737) K78 9,098 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-07-05 08:02:12
Barbarian village (888|732) K78 9,982 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-07-04 16:04:00
Barbarian village (913|753) K79 9,646 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-07-03 14:32:53
Barbarian village (910|761) K79 9,490 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-07-01 14:22:05
Barbarian village (888|748) K78 9,211 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-06-19 15:03:13
Barbarian village (899|746) K78 10,239 FriarsTale [Apoc-C] maddawgmike [|TF|p1] 2010-06-14 19:13:23
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DeletedUser53573

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mike :)


Andrew Done said:
Woulda, coulda, shoulda... didn't.
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You forgot, 'didn't care', and 'chose not to' :). Just as Bella doesn't seem to think of this game the same as you logical thinkers do, you didn't share the same goals with us.



I am not saying they didn't know about those softer skills but they clearly didn't apply them. You can say that was because they didn't want to, I am saying that their mindset (and that of their potential allies) prevented them doing so effectively. You can argue the former but their behaviour suggests the latter. The failed merge with Aggression, the merge with INF, the subsequent split all suggest an organisation that suspected it had to change, but had long since lost the ability to do so. Et voila! Extinction.
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It wasn't mm then. Obviously =/. When kee left, I know that was a time when I lost a major chunk of motivation. When Pete left, many others lost the same. We chose to play for friends, you played for villages. :)
 

DeletedUser53573

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Lol. Sorry :(

I was deep in football conditioning/practice lol. <3
 

DeletedUser53573

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I know :)

I'm reading back for some of his posts about me. I know he never forgot me :)
 

DeletedUser67005

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Lol, he's ignoring me. I can see his posts, but he cant see mine :O

I'm free...
 
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