RFG Questionare.

DeletedUser

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Blue thing...
Aquarium said:
Hello my tribemates, this is an long circular mail, but it's important to read it all .

I think many of you already find out (or you figure it out by yourself), W5 it's heading for an world war. LFKD (PKs, DFB, D.A., LoTD) on one side and another alliance (at least as big as LFKD ... in fact bigger) on the other side.

If this war will start, i believe that in several areas we will be forced to join a side in this war, for our tribe best interest and for our members safety in the future.
Also if this war will start, the winning side will definitely rule this world, so joining one side (hopefully the winning one ) it will make us thrive and it will make us one of the rules of W5.

So, knowing all this, if this war will start i have to ask you several things :

1. All players from K47 build your defensive armies to the full level and save some resources, your main job will be to support the players in the war areas with troops and resources (but you will have your part of fun too, don't worry , so don't neglect your offensive either).
2. All players from K46, K56 and K57 build all your armies to the full level (both offensive and defensive). Also, all the players from this continents must be able to recruit at least 4 noblemens at any time (but i expect that bigger players to be able to recruit at least 8 noblemes)
3. All the players from the other continents have to focus on defensive first, so you can protect yourself.
4. Until i will give some more informations, everyone must try to keep his loses to an minimum, now it's not the best time to waste your armies without an very good reason.

So ... in conclusion, prepair for war.

Also i want all of you take this very seriously, this is not something unimportant, there are things happening right at this moment and me and the other leaders analysed the situation and we are about to take some decisions.

But first, we want to hear all your opinions on this subject, so i need all of you to send me an short reply with it. Until friday morning (08:00 - tw time) when the leaders, depending by your answers and our informations will decide regarding this issue, we need to know the following :

If this world war will start :

1.1 What it's best for us ... to join the war or to stay neutral ?
1.2 If we decide that it's best to join the war, wich side we must choose ? LFKD or the other side ?

If at this moment the alliance against LFKD are bigger (as points and number of villages) :

3.1 Who do you think it will win if RFG stay neutral ?
3.2 Who do you think it will win if RFG join against LFKD ?
3.3 Who do you think it will win if RFG join LFKD ?


This is all for the moment, i will be back with more info when the time will come . Now i'm wating for your opinions.

Thanks,
Aquarium

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DeletedUser

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1.1 Neutral, or just disband.
1.2 LFKD, Except, we might not want you. So aye, back to the disbanding part.

If at this moment the alliance against LFKD are bigger (as points and number of villages) :

3.1 LFKD
3.2 LFKD
3.3 LFKD


Hope that helps you guys.
 

DeletedUser

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yeah, yeah, this could be interesting :lol:.

It was just an hypothetical mail, to find my tribemates opinions about such an war, otherwise we might not want you either :). I think that everybody already know that together, LFKD have the rest of the world set as enemies but RFG and another tribe or two (hmmm, i think D.A. set us as enemies at some point, something about some strange plans -known by them only :icon_neutral: - to take over several players)

P.S.Sorry for dismissing that guy too quick though.
 
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DeletedUser

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yeah, yeah, this could be interesting :lol:.

It was just an hypothetical mail, to find my tribemates opinions about such an war, otherwise we migh not want you either :). I think that everybody already know that together, LFKD have the rest of the world set as enemies but RFG and another tribe or two (hmmm, i think D.A. set us as enemies at some point, something about some strange plans -known by them only :icon_neutral: - to take over several players)

P.S.Sorry for dismissing that guy too quick though.

You edited what was a good post...
 

DeletedUser

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Too bad you didn't name the "giga alliance", that's the only reason I actually read that post.


It's not because we fight several tribes, they are in an alliance. The only thing they do together is loosing villages :lol:

Thank you for your warning, I'll prepare my defenses (actually I have plenty of time to make it when I see incommings as I'm high and dry up here in K3.

I suggest you stay neutral, like the Swiss.
 

DeletedUser

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You edited what was a good post...

Not really, i was repeating myself :).

Too bad you didn't name the "giga alliance", that's the only reason I actually read that post.


It's not because we fight several tribes, they are in an alliance. The only thing they do together is loosing villages

Thank you for your warning, I'll prepare my defenses (actually I have plenty of time to make it when I see incommings as I'm high and dry up here in K3.

I suggest you stay neutral, like the Swiss.


Well ... i don't know if there is an alliance already formed against LFKD after all and if there is one, i did'nt heard any name :lol: . But it's enough to check the map and your wars to see that an world war it's already on course. And i think if they don't manage to co-ordinate against such an alliance as LFKD ... nothing good can happen for them :icon_wink: .

You have to forgive me if i missed something, but for the last 2 mounths i played more in W6, so now, when i'm back on W5 and i see such interesting things happening around here ... i had to prepair my tribe for anything :icon_rolleyes: .

Also, there was an warning indeed, but not for you (at this moment i don't care that much what wars LFKD have, just watching and estimate its course) it was for my tribe.
 

DeletedUser

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Swiss isnt funny cause he is always staying neutral.No war,no strike,no terror,Isnt it boring?:lol: RFG wants fun.
 

DeletedUser

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Well ... all of you can suggest anything, but for the moment RFG have some leaders and they are perfectly capable to decide by their own :).
 

DeletedUser

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Unfortunatelly, unlike W6 for example, it seems that in W5 people tend to ignore P&P. Too bad ...
 

DeletedUser

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LFKD have not yet been the aggressors in any wars. We have simply defended our policies with extreme prejudice towards those seeking hostile actions against us.

Contrary to some beliefs there are only some tribes which are marked as enemies - those who initiated combat against us. See earlier point.

Regarding that wonderful questionnaire.

1.1 Neutral/vulture type role. If LFKD have no interest in you, its best you take no interest in them.

1.2 The wonders of individual identity would dictate that choosing sides diminshes that identity. See point 1.1

2.? - you dunt like the number 2? :icon_eek:

3.1 LFKD
3.2 LFKD
3.3 LFKD

Points and village totals mean very little in war. Communication and co-ordination is everything.
 

DeletedUser6458

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(hmmm, i think D.A. set us as enemies at some point, something about some strange plans -known by them only :icon_neutral: - to take over several players)

Intel was recieved of plans to hit several of our members near RFG.
It is not unreasonable to think it was legit, since you have attacked them before.


1.1 nuetral
1.2 not wise to get involved

2. Where is #2?

3.1 LFKD
3.2 LFKD
3.3 LFKD
 
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DeletedUser3899

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If a world war came about the only tribe anyone should worry about is
Russki Fan Club.
 

DeletedUser

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If this world war will start : ("I guess it already started")

1.1 What it's best for us ... to join the war or to stay neutral ?
A= Well, depends, cuz if u join u will in no-LFKD, So probably u will lose, so stay neutral
1.2 If we decide that it's best to join the war, wich side we must choose ? LFKD or the other side ?
A= LFKD, but as i said, no alliances.. if u want to be good, u can attack the others :p! but we make no alliances

If at this moment the alliance against LFKD are bigger (as points and number of villages) "obviously not in quality" :

3.1 Who do you think it will win if RFG stay neutral ?
3.2 Who do you think it will win if RFG join against LFKD ?
3.3 Who do you think it will win if RFG join LFKD ?

Answer for 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3:
It wont make a difference :)! LFKD will win! :D!
 

DeletedUser

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Good, nice to see some opinions here. Coming only from LFKD members i think this opinions are more or less biased :icon_rolleyes: but nevertheless nice to see it.

First, i want to clear something : I did'nt asked for any alliance, not with LFKD, not with others, i just imagined some hypothetical situations. I think that word "join" was misunderstood. Use "fight against LFKD" and "fight against the others" if you like.

Also, i have one question though ... why you all suggested that RFG should stay neutral ? Do you really care about RFG's best interest ? Because i'm thinking, if i was in LFKD position and i'm making such an thread (and it's obvious that was meant to weaken RFG's image) i'll honestly said : join the other side, more villages for us. That could show some strong trust and it could prove to be a good propaganda against RFG. Now, with all LFKD leaders saying that RFG should stay neutral in an thread meant to depreciate RFG ... it might prove some lack of confidence, don't you think ?

Anyway, i think parmenion gived the best answer until now, incomplete though, i will like to see some justifications on that 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3 points too, not only some biased answers :icon_rolleyes:.
 

AWKD

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Good, nice to see some opinions here. Coming only from LFKD members i think this opinions are more or less biased :icon_rolleyes: but nevertheless nice to see it.

First, i want to clear something : I did'nt asked for any alliance, not with LFKD, not with others, i just imagined some hypothetical situations. I think that word "join" was misunderstood. Use "fight against LFKD" and "fight against the others" if you like.

Also, i have one question though ... why you all suggested that RFG should stay neutral ? Do you really care about RFG's best interest ? Because i'm thinking, if i was in LFKD position and i'm making such an thread (and it's obvious that was meant to weaken RFG's image) i'll honestly said : join the other side, more villages for us. That could show some strong trust and it could prove to be a good propaganda against RFG. Now, with all LFKD leaders saying that RFG should stay neutral in an thread meant to depreciate RFG ... it might prove some lack of confidence, don't you think ?

Anyway, i think parmenion gived the best answer until now, incomplete though, i will like to see some justifications on that 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3 points too, not only some biased answers :icon_rolleyes:.

Ultimately RFG will choose it's own fate and your intepretation that staying nuetral would weaken your image is not the most important thing or even 100% sure to happen, but if lets say RFG were to become involved against LFKD then Image would be the least of your tribal issues. Regardless of that there might be something to gain like you said by joining LFKD's opponent but upon further inspection of LFKD's opponent maybe you will come to the realization that many others have. It would be better to focus your time and energy elsewhere as a good majority of our oppenents tribemembers have seemingly decided to do LOL
 
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Aquarium,

LFKD are not continental based nor family based tribes. We are groups of friends playing together in an open environment who do not seek to control nor to dominate any specific areas. We have not yet started wars because simply put we have had no reason to. In general they land on our doorsteps because our philosophy of game play appears to contrast directly with the notion of family/continental based tribes.

Our existence promotes gameplay in this world instead of stifling it. Players should have red dots around them and have the capacity to expand rather than be bored out of existence because they joined a large continental tribe/tribal family. This usually only happens when a player seeks to protect him/herself against overwhelming odds that they would face if they didn't.

Now in relation to your points:

1. Noted. But why would you consider losing a family/tribal identity by becoming part of a mob on either side of a given conflict? Why would that notion even be entertained by you in the slightest? Why do you perceive LFKD or the other side as such a catastrophic theat that you feel compelled to ask your members about which side they should choose?

2. We have no interest in RFG and despite being contacted by other tribes interested in forming an alliance against RFG aggression we have in every case advised them of exactly that. We have no current issues with RFG for the most part on a global scale nor would we entertain the notion of involving ourselves in a war against RFG unprovoked. Like I said before, we do not actively seek wars but it seems there are those tribes who plot regardless.

So when we state to those enemies of yours that we are maintaining a neutral standpoint; by your logic our neutral position depreciates us? I don't think so aquarium. We aren't in the habit of fighting other people's wars for them and by that same logic the suggestion of neutrality by many LFKD regarding your tribe is that we be treated with the same respect. The difference between LFKD and RFG is that our leaders do not mass mail our members for their opinions. We have/had more respect for RFG than that and simply sent away those diplomats advising that we had no interest in becoming involved.

3. Justifications regarding point 3. First, we have far superior technology that we use in fighting wars. All of that technology is completely legal and approved by game admins. We have exceptional co-ordination on a global and local level and in every war we have been involved in we have been outnumbered in some cases on local levels by factors of 20-30 to 1. We have still prevailed. I ain't saying LFKD members are unkillable. They most certainly are not. However, the cost of 5 LFKD villages usually results in the termination of 5 times that number of enemy villages at that was our worst case trade off.

LFKD are active round the clock in real time co-ordination. Not just a few members from each tribe but most every member of each tribe. It is considered a pre-requisite for joining. While no tribe is indestructable, the major difficulty family/continental based tribes encounter when trying to take out our members is the moral of their players. We fight with belief - the belief that location should not determine how you play this game and we aggressively support our isolated members because of this belief. Tribes attacking such players have quickly realised how hard we fight to protect every individual member of the LFKD alliance and how costly it is for a tribe to attack us. Those attackers generally find that they start respecting our players and our belief, our skill and the way we play this game more than they respect their own tribes who try over running us which takes no skill.

My sincere apologies for my long-winded post, but you wanted clarification and I hope this helps in that regard.
 
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