Ridiculous

Discussion in 'World 43' started by stedan11, Feb 18, 2012.

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  1. stedan11

    stedan11 Guest

    This is the one thing I hate about this game. These ridiculous end of world rules that allow no flexibility or interpretation.

    Do you really mean to tell me that anyone is going to come back and win this world from FRST? You waste everyone's time and live's and force them into swearing off this game forever so they don't get involved in another 3 year long world. Either that or they turn into players who do startup and then quit.

    Get a brain TW, figure it out. I don't even play the world any more because I knew 6 months ago we won it, I just didn't need TW's endorsement to tell me that.

    Rank Tribe Points Villages
    1 FRST 357,246,864 36,984
    2 T.W.A 22,114,156 2,629
    3 Ni 10,682,970 1,191
    4 HEAT 7,610,643 811
    5 NmLs 4,416,379 446

    End it and let people move on to new worlds! JOKE!
     
  2. no1bittyboy

    no1bittyboy Guest

    I agree we won the world a long time ago I find it funny that fincky has more points than the second best tribe twa...

    I like the idea of finishing the world with 100%dominace though, perhaps there should be more phases towards the end of the game allowing for cheaper packets? Shorter walking duration time? Basically speed up the world when it starts to get boring...so people start a new one.

    We never really had much resistance most good players like to start new worlds rather than start on the rim which is the real problem... A few good players alone are useless against a tribe like frst there needs to be 2 tribes of good players to start on the rim which doesn't happen these days.
     
  3. darkaniken2

    darkaniken2 All Over the Board

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    You can request a custom end-game by having your dukes send in a support ticket. I suggest you read this thread before coming to the forums and ranting about something that isn't strictly the case.
     
  4. bobble611

    bobble611 Guest

    The problem is, darkaniken, that if we apply and are rejected, we then have to wait another 3 months before applying again. This world was finished over a year ago - since then it has been a case of clearing up the barb noblers with very limited packets for nobles. I, for one, will not be playing this game again for a long time as the last year has been boring beyond belief. There is no way that TW would have accepted our application a year ago so this would not have changed. Despite recent deletions from some high-pointed players outside of FRST, I still don't think we're at the 85% mark yet to any intelligent person looking in from the outside, they must be able to see that there is only 1 way this world is going. The problem we have now is that even when we hit the required percentage that still doesn't mean the world is over. Let's hope the extra months that TW make us all put in don't put me off the game completely as it's players like me who have been here right from the beginning of W43 that are TW's bread and butter.
     
  5. no1bittyboy

    no1bittyboy Guest

    Sorry for ranting... I agree with what bob said about the 3 month thing though. Perhaps the person who gets the request should decide how long until the next one can be submitted if the previous has been denied, case by case aprouch, inflexible things like this cause problems. Perhaps it shouldn't even be time related, concs could be the variable.

    I know there are measures in place to speed up worlds but I would argue that they do not speed them up enough, that's just my point of view probably shared by a few on this world.

    The voting system could be done with village quantities taken into account not simply a vote per person a bit like shares that would make the voting system more fair I think.

    It's impossible to please everyone I know this but that shouldn't stop anyone even the peoples views that are in the minority voiceing there opinion. It may come across as a rant but its more voicing an opinion and giving the opportunity for others to do so which can lead to a discussion/debate which could result in the change of opinions or even rules. I would argue this type of thing should be encouraged.
     
  6. wee jock

    wee jock Guest

    This world does seem a bit strange mainly due to very early on one tribe played as a tribe and always went looking for anyone who maybe a threat. Early game this made it very exciting for us as we were always chasing down but has left us with the problem of being on a constant clear up for 2 years.
    We set out to play as a tribe and stay as a tribe and this has in someways been our downfall. The bad news from TW point of view is we are probably the type of customers they need to keep playing new worlds but due to the time we are spending finishing up I doubt many of us will jump into another world for at least 6 months. Although having said that I do appreciate that stamina is a large part of this game now.
     
  7. stedan11

    stedan11 Guest

    I don't steal because I don't want 3 months in jail.

    FRST can't apply because they don't want 3 months in TW jail before the process can "start over"

    Maybe I RAAAWWWRRRed a little too much, but the point stands that everyone in the tribe has been baffled for months how they could still be this far away from this ending.
     
  8. DruidEarth

    DruidEarth Contributing Poster

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    Some stuff using current TWstats data and Google calculator:

    (FRST total points) / (total points in all tribes)
    370,913,338 / (370,913,338 + 22,306,398 + 9,477,818 + 7,151,945 + 4,322,268 + 3,784,822 + 3,730,473 + 2,974,236 + 1,172,456 + 1,106,275 + 998,230 + 562,975 + 393,827 + 273,702 + 91,082 + 80,775 + 36,114 + 11,628 + 1,855) = 86.3814133%

    (FRST total points) / (total player points in world)
    370,913,338 / (370,913,338 + 22,306,398 + 9,477,818 + 7,151,945 + 4,322,268 + 3,784,822 + 3,730,473 + 2,974,236 + 1,172,456 + 1,106,275 + 998,230 + 562,975 + 393,827 + 273,702 + 91,082 + 80,775 + 36,114 + 11,628 + 1,855 + (1,552,006 + 713,621 + 367,926 + 87,533 + 21,996 + 13,718 + 7,597 + 2,252 + 1,849 + 758 + 308 + 280 + 278 + 275 + 147 + 142 + 139 + 116 + 26)) = 85.8275458%

    EDIT: Just realized it's done by villages. >.> That's silly. And all my work is for nothing.

    EDIT2:
    (# FRST villages) / (# villages in tribes)
    37,452 / (37,452 + 2,657 + 1,055 + 762 + 507 + 382 + 428 + 305 + 152 + 109 + 108 + 68 + 48 + 27 + 12 + 9 + 4 + 3 + 2) = 84.9444318%

    (# FRST villages) / (total # player villages)
    37,452 / (37,452 + 2,657 + 1,055 + 762 + 507 + 382 + 428 + 305 + 152 + 109 + 108 + 68 + 48 + 27 + 12 + 9 + 4 + 3 + 2 + (164 + 98 + 37 + 11 + 4 + 2 + 2 + (1 * 12))) = 84.3133724%

    Close enough to 85% there...
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2012
  9. harbinger297

    harbinger297 Guest

    To make it easier to read:

    132,000 total villages.
    88,000 barbarian villages.
    44,000 player villages.
    37,000 FRST villages.

    37,000/44,000 = 84%.

    :icon_razz:
     
  10. DruidEarth

    DruidEarth Contributing Poster

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    Shh, it's more fun my way. ;p
     
  11. harbinger297

    harbinger297 Guest

    It's faster and sexier my way. :icon_cool:
     
  12. DruidEarth

    DruidEarth Contributing Poster

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    Faster isn't always better, particularly for us women. And it can be fun to do things that might be seen as a little more "out there." :icon_redface:
     
  13. One person, one vote is a joke... Democracy is good and stuff but when bob has more points than the second ranked tribe should the guy who refuses to give us and keeps restarting have any say in how the world ends :icon_rolleyes:
     
  14. harbinger297

    harbinger297 Guest

    I wouldn't be opposed to a voting based by premium purchase. So basically anyone that has held a premium account for the last month or activated points within the last month or so gets a vote.
     
  15. DruidEarth

    DruidEarth Contributing Poster

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    No fair, that leaves me out, and I'd vote to end it as soon as possible. D:

    (Yes, I've had my little one village on this world for about a year. :p)
     
  16. bobble611

    bobble611 Guest

    It seems no-one on TW staff is sure of the rules so how can players be expected to know what's going on?

    I was told last month:

    As per the link information above, one of the dukes of the winning tribe can ticket and request it to be reviewed.

    Our duke was then told when he wrote in:

    We periodically check all worlds to see what settings need to be changed and implement the changes after the check. Please do not send in support tickets requesting settings changes after the criteria has been met.

    So which is it TW?
     
  17. no1bittyboy

    no1bittyboy Guest

    "37,000/44,000 = 84%."

    Noo harb we need that .3% even the .01% helps.

    84.31%...

    Also this
    http://en43.tribalwars.net/stat.php should help in future calculations :icon_wink:.

    Currently = 84.623544280942493454906563148867%

    Think voting with premium involved would not be fair speaking as a premium member myself although skerlie pays the bills :lol: I do think village amounts should be taken into account with voting like a share system.

    The rules could be clearer I think, no doubt they will be modified over time like quite a few other past tw rules, evolution of the game.
     
  18. bobble611

    bobble611 Guest

    Stop posting on the externals, bitty. We're waiting for that information in the council forum :p
     
  19. DruidEarth

    DruidEarth Contributing Poster

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  20. wee jock

    wee jock Guest

    Druid as a point of interest you say you have your one little village but at this stage of the game what would you do if it was taken from you. Not a threat as I have no clue where you are but just out of curiosity.