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DeletedUser

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Didn't know ODD won wars.

While probably not the case in the situation of this war, if a tribe attacks the same player nonstop for 6 weeks and loses thousands of nukes on them without gaining a single village the morale gets pretty low and people are less inclined to follow their leader's orders if it comes to have anything to do with the same player again. They know they can't win. Psychological, subtle, but it helps win a war.
 

DeletedUser

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So in short:

ODD + village loss doesn't win wars.
ODD without losing villages is demoralizing for enemies and thus a winning factor for a war.

Did I summarize that correctly? :)
 

DeletedUser

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While probably not the case in the situation of this war, if a tribe attacks the same player nonstop for 6 weeks and loses thousands of nukes on them without gaining a single village the morale gets pretty low and people are less inclined to follow their leader's orders if it comes to have anything to do with the same player again. They know they can't win. Psychological, subtle, but it helps win a war.

Not necessarily seeming as how it depends on how much of the tribes support you actually kill. sure, your tribe might be losing nukes, but they're tribe is obviously losing 99% of their defenses.

Also, what kinda leader would just sit there and pound 1 member over and over again. lol 1 village nobled = that much less support. :p (just stating the obvious, I'm sure you know that. ;))
 

DeletedUser

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While probably not the case in the situation of this war, if a tribe attacks the same player nonstop for 6 weeks and loses thousands of nukes on them without gaining a single village the morale gets pretty low and people are less inclined to follow their leader's orders if it comes to have anything to do with the same player again. They know they can't win. Psychological, subtle, but it helps win a war.


question i would ask is if password is nobling villages also will that affect the stats?
 

DeletedUser

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question i would ask is if password is nobling villages also will that affect the stats?

Doesn't matter much on my end, whether to include me into the stats or not.
Not trying to underestimate you, but looking at your members activity at the moment, it's probably going to be one sided. :icon_sad:
The numbers are too massive. :icon_neutral:

I would commend LOL for your courteous and polite playstyle though.
Some of your members have mailed me and thanked me for clarifying stuff on these externals, and also Grizzly was also very polite.
 

DeletedUser

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So in short:

ODD + village loss doesn't win wars.
ODD without losing villages is demoralizing for enemies and thus a winning factor for a war.

Did I summarize that correctly? :)

Basically what I was saying. I've seen entire tribes get broken just failing every OP they tried repeatedly for months without a serious offensive from the other side. Repeated failure -> Questioning of the leadership -> Disharmony -> Internal Combustion of tribe

Not necessarily seeming as how it depends on how much of the tribes support you actually kill. sure, your tribe might be losing nukes, but they're tribe is obviously losing 99% of their defenses.

Also, what kinda leader would just sit there and pound 1 member over and over again. lol 1 village nobled = that much less support. :p (just stating the obvious, I'm sure you know that. ;))

You don't need support to do what I described if your opponent can't properly coordinate. And if the person is proper supported you're not going to kill anywhere near 50% of the support, much less 99% of the tribal defenses. :icon_neutral: Heck it doesn't even need to be one person, just a cluster that creates the frontline shared by many players. The villages are the same whether they're all on one account or not, though perhaps it is much easier managed if it is only one account because less coordination is required if only one person has to be online to respond appropriately.

Of course my example pertains to a different stage of the game than we are at now (though I would argue my ODD against MAD started killing that tribe at the one village stage :p), but the principle is the same. ODD can play a huge role in a war, don't paint it with a broad brush as useless :p
 

DeletedUser

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Of course my example pertains to a different stage of the game than we are at now (though I would argue my ODD against MAD started killing that tribe at the one village stage :p), but the principle is the same. ODD can play a huge role in a war, don't paint it with a broad brush as useless :p

Yeah, I'm talking about circumstances now. ;)

I know what you mean though. In World 10 I was in the north eastern half and our enemy controlled the south west. I nobled a village dead in the center of them and stacked with with I think it was somewhere around 300k/300k and 50k HC. They crashed nuke after nuke into. Finally they got it back after a good week and a half of pounding constant nukes into. So I do know what you mean, just not really possible at this stage of the game. ;)
 

slinkiestwizard

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question i would ask is if password is nobling villages also will that affect the stats?

well if your gonna add his add this one as well as he was kicked/left 19 minutes before being nobled :icon_biggrin:


thanewolf2 Left 22nd November 2011 - 08:06 5,427
 

DeletedUser

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Doesn't matter much on my end, whether to include me into the stats or not.
Not trying to underestimate you, but looking at your members activity at the moment, it's probably going to be one sided. :icon_sad:
The numbers are too massive. :icon_neutral:

I would commend LOL for your courteous and polite playstyle though.
Some of your members have mailed me and thanked me for clarifying stuff on these externals, and also Grizzly was also very polite.

thanks we try to have a good crew prehaps not as skilled as some. but have fun
together. i would like to rephrase my question tho war stats do they pick up other attacks and credit those also to virus?
 

DeletedUser

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thanks we try to have a good crew prehaps not as skilled as some. but have fun
together. i would like to rephrase my question tho war stats do they pick up other attacks and credit those also to virus?

Does it matter if we include anyone else?

Since the last time I posted the ODA for the war stats, 11 horus ago we've gotten another 44k ODA against you guys. 50%+ of your members are cleared. :icon_rolleyes:
 

slinkiestwizard

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Does it matter if we include anyone else?

Since the last time I posted the ODA for the war stats, 11 horus ago we've gotten another 44k ODA against you guys. 50%+ of your members are cleared. :icon_rolleyes:


Destination Player: Grimmstryke
Village: restart in 1 hour (575|509) K55

Add him as well as he plans on deleting before the noble hits , you can add all the shave caps to Virus stats . Again last i looked shave isnt involved in this war we are just adding a few villages .:)

*And there that is all the way out to K 26

Grimmstrykes village
Coordinates: 654|284
Points: 116
Player: Grimmstryke


Smoov hey buddy hit me up on skype!!!!
 
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DeletedUser

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Does it matter if we include anyone else?

Since the last time I posted the ODA for the war stats, 11 horus ago we've gotten another 44k ODA against you guys. 50%+ of your members are cleared. :icon_rolleyes:


its not a matter of who is winning its a question of game mechanics. the question
tw stats was activated when you declared war how will it determine points if more than one tribe is attacking.

why do you feel the need to gloat or give a negative response with every post? beleive it or not some players use forums to learn and exchange ideas in a civil manner. on some of the worlds i played our enemy and my tribe even had laughs together. when a well played
move was done it was nothing for member to comment on how well they had been out played.
 

DeletedUser

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its not a matter of who is winning its a question of game mechanics. the question
tw stats was activated when you declared war how will it determine points if more than one tribe is attacking.

why do you feel the need to gloat or give a negative response with every post? beleive it or not some players use forums to learn and exchange ideas in a civil manner. on some of the worlds i played our enemy and my tribe even had laughs together. when a well played
move was done it was nothing for member to comment on how well they had been out played.

Ohhhhhhh, I'm sorry. Looks like you're looking for: www.tribalhugs.net
 

DeletedUser96310

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lol, the title of this thread shocked me.. (happens when one leaves for a week and returns I guess)

so... I thought I should go into the council chat and ask if Shave! was waring anyone and I was informed "No".

I then decided I should read up to see how it is that Shave was mentioned and I learn that we have one player expanding.

hmm... didn't know a single player expansion was consider a tribe's participation but maybe in the new age Tribal Wars, it is so I decided to send P A S S W O R D a message to tell him to quit waring without permission and to only eat his barb farms. Then someone reminded me that Password "is" a tribe all in himself with sick skills and even sicker (is that a word) war skillz....

so... yea, in the end, I guess my surprise was correct in my assumption that we again see a reason for humor...

Truth is, I don't see Virus needing assistance... maybe I'm wrong, though I doubt I am.
 
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DeletedUser

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hmm... didn't know a single player expansion was consider a tribe's participation but maybe in the new age Tribal Wars, it is so I decided to send P A

Well, to them it felt like an entire tribe was coming at em... Your player can be proud :icon_smile:
 

DeletedUser

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Truth is, I don't see Virus needing assistance... maybe I'm wrong, though I doubt I am.

You're wrong, I sarcastically asked for peace earlier because we're scared. Their leader declined. :icon_cry:
 
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