Karmax there are far too many allegations in you recent posts. Accusations of using illegal methods to achieve our goals is ridiculous. The corporation is founded on team work and participation. There is nothing complex or unique about what we do, they are just the habits of a successful tribe. Take a look at any of w30's top 3 tribes and you'll see patterns suggesting similar methods. First. When a seemingly inactive player hits you it's because that player has been assigned to knocking your walls down so that others can noble you out, why is that so unusual to you? We rotate the responsibility so we all take turns to noble. It's all to do with managing expansion and activity. Second Point. The people who you claim to have talked to about our alleged multi-account playing are a mystery to me, maybe you can share that information if it is indeed true. On the occasion where players quit we do find new players for them from our old worlds. There is a method to integrate new account owners legally as described in the rules section of this forum. We do take care to follow these rules to the letter of the law hence the reason all your attempts at trying to get me and shipley banned fail. I'm a major advocate of playing this game to the letter of the law and we preach this within our tribe so i do take offence to these accusations. PMP have had far more players banned than the corporation has if you do the maths. Finally you talk of mergers and seem disgruntled as a tribe that we've taken in Escape players. Personally i don't understand what the issue is? Does any tribe recruiting automatically become a mass recruiting tribe? The key players who joined from Escape are active, dedicated and fit our profile so it made logical sense for them to join. Yes we have been discussing for a number of months but it was all about timing as to when they joined us. All tribe recruit players, you only need to look at what happens in the top 5 to see how strategic recruitment can give you a new route to expansion. E.g. BD's recruitment of Templarz, et al. I'm sure you'd do the same if you had any players in the area actually willing to join you. To quote you, this war will be to the death, there are no second chances, surrenders or alliances. PMP will be removed to allow us to finally own the entire S/E unopposed. You've put up a good fight but even the man who calls his villages; "no sleep" must be at the end of the road. Good luck, till the death it is.