Silent war?

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  1. Gicusan

    Gicusan Contributing Poster

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    no. i really urge all enemy tribes to build many, many swords.
     
  2. KarmaX

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    I will always love HC over sword :p .. don't know why RHCP loves sword. Sim isn't everything!
     
  3. spleen mage

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    I prefer swords to HC.
     
  4. The Red Hot Chili Pepper

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    Swords rule.

    1 sword:
    1 population

    General Defense 50/pop
    Cavalry Defense 15/pop
    Archer Defense 40/pop

    1 HC:

    6 population

    General Defense 200/6 pop = 33.3333/pop
    Cavalry Defense 80/6 pop = 13.3333/pop
    Archer Defense 180/6 pop = 30/pop

    Sure, swords take a lot longer to build, but they are sure worth it.
     
  5. Badlapje

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    exactly!
     
  6. the pink panther

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    Thats why I never let you build them when we co played you nub. :lol:
     
  7. AK_iceman

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    Exactly right. Don't let these BD noobs tell you HC is better. Keep building your spear/sword/archer defenses!
     
  8. The Red Hot Chili Pepper

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    dam straight mate,

    6000 spears,
    6000 swords
    8500 archers

    SOLID AS A ROCK!
     
  9. DJBrotoe

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    Good luck with your build, and travel times, when I nuke all your villages :)
     
  10. Badlapje

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    DJ you baffoon ... you're not supposed to let on there's a problem with swords :icon_rolleyes:
     
  11. The Red Hot Chili Pepper

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    come get me ;)
     
  12. DJBrotoe

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    Oops. When I posted that I was pretty sure, he was aware of everyones sarcasm. Maybe not :icon_rolleyes:
     
  13. spleen mage

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    I think everyone understands that HC travel faster then swords, that doesn't mean it's better. I'v had the HC vs SW debate with many people, and I have yet to see a convincing argument for either side that proves it is better then the other. It's the travel time vs. stopping power argument.

    Lots of people decided to jump on the HC band-wagon and automatically assume it's superior. HC might be a players personal preference, but a player would have to be fairly ignorant to think swords are useless or noobish. Using a "HC strat" does not neccesarily make you a better player.
     
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  14. The Red Hot Chili Pepper

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    well put,


    Both HC and swords have their advantages and disadvantages.

    These include:
    Cost:
    1 sword costs 30 wood, 30 clay and 70 iron
    1 HC costs 200 wood, 150 clay and 600 iron (thats 33 wood, 25 clay and 100 iron per population)

    population:
    1 sword = one population
    1 HC = six population

    defensive capabilities:
    Sword
    General Defense 50/pop
    Cavalry Defense 15/pop
    Archer Defense 40/pop

    HC
    General Defense 200/6 pop = 33.3333/pop
    Cavalry Defense 80/6 pop = 13.3333/pop
    Archer Defense 180/6 pop = 30/pop

    Speed:
    Sword take 22 minutes per field
    HC takes 11 minutes per field

    haul:
    Sword can only carry 15 resources
    HC can carry 50

    Offensive capabilities:
    Swords have 25 offense
    HC have 150 offense (25 offense/pop)

    It varies player to player. Some players like HC for their speed. Others like to farm with HC as opposed to swords/spears/archers. Some players use HC to attack with if a village needs a last minute clearing attack. HC provide better noble support than swords...

    I could drivel on for hours but this is not the place, nor can I be bothered.
     
  15. KarmaX

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    Don't wanna debate but in defense HC rulez!!! If you wanna know why just keep this example in mind: "Whats the use of medicine after the patient dies?" Village = patient, medicine = HC. You can't get it in time u loose it. Also, mathematically with no interference swords might be better but HC are better in defense more than sword in real war time coz you can get a hell lotta of D villages b4 your swords can reach that village and its fast for rotation so eventually with that calculations kept in mind HC has more defense. Also, during times when there is no battle and your soldiers are boored HC can also be used for farming :p
     
  16. Michael Wittman

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    no debate please!!! kaosyeti convinced me on world 14 that HC was the best and no one can persuade me otherwise. fast build, fast support in the end trumps the sword.

    look at it this way.

    HC= modern armored warfare tactics

    Sword= world war 1 mass offensive tactics
     
  17. k9burn

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    Its not the travel time that makes them so attractive (but its nice). Its the recruitment speed...
     
  18. spleen mage

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    Yes, that's true. However, in times of relative peace, recruitment speed often isn't an issue (If you need to build defense quickly, then yes, HC/SP are the way foward.) At the end of the day, both are good albeit different, however I wouldn't put one above the other, as they both have their strengths.
     
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  19. Michael Wittman

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    ok, yes during peace time and if you have very tight clusters, swords could be a better build. i would just switch scripts once war broke out.
     
  20. Mick876

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    By fleeing to TWC?
     
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