Skype vs Onfire (Offical thread Merged)

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slinkiestwizard

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Who do i need to slap?? BTW Slinky what account you playing in this world? Too lazy to look

now lamby a quick look at the most recent declaration would give you an answer, yeah we are a long way from w 53
 

velibor

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This war can't really be looked at trough stats purely...there is a lot of stuff going on noone really knows about. At the beginning of the war Onfire was purely defending and didnt even snipe...they were warring both skype and goh...in the meantime a lot of stuff changed...onfire kicked a bunch of players to make the stats look better...they got declared on by shave and robrob seems to be taking some villas which are in their territory...however on the skype front they managed to get a couple of basher tribes like cus to stack their front lines and they managed to flip goh on their side...Its a huge mess at the moment with everyone fighting vs everyone within K54
 

DeletedUser96310

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well, honestly, I found this to be a little interesting. Makes me wonder if a war is actually taking place. Seriously, even SKYPE members don't know.

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FaceBook Staulkers today at 17:55
FaceBook Staulkers on 29.12. at 15:52
Mate, you posted a claim on (player hidden) and we have an op landing on him. Can you please remove your claim so we don't cross noble.

Thanks!
Bee

xxxxxxx on 29.12. at 21:16
okay

FaceBook Staulkers on 29.12. at 22:03
thank you :)

xxxxxxx today at 16:06
hey bro, one of your members nobled a village which i cleared and dropped the loyalty of, i also had the claim on it, i can supply you with reports to prove i cleared the village, and i wasnt too happy about this as i lost a lot of troops in doing so

xxxxxxx today at 16:07
The player [player]kupal15[/player] ([ally]shAve[/ally]) has ignored your noble claim for the village prinxexa (497|543) K54 and conquered the village.

FaceBook Staulkers today at 16:08
what village?

and yea, need the reports forwarded via a IGM spoiler. Please don't just forward them as I don't want them in my twfr :)

xxxxxxx today at 16:09
sorry lool ill spoiler them now

xxxxxxx today at 16:10
clearance

[report_display]http://en59.tribalwars.net/public_report/bab476e20593389815booooo6def6c35[/report_display]

noble attack 1

[report_display]http://en59.tribalwars.net/public_report/ccfbe98d22340522e20f457ooooo33656[/report_display]

noble attack 2

[report_display]http://en59.tribalwars.net/public_report/849f8d381029a39c4888ooooo67ef5a5[/report_display]

FaceBook Staulkers today at 16:41
you lost 1 (1/2) nuke and no nobles only because [ally]shAve[/ally] lost 3 nukes and 5 nobles before hand. Morale and bad luck saved Prinxexa. We hit before the Christmas break. Reports were forwarded to your diplomat.

It should have been obvious to you that we were eating this player as we had taken 2 of the 3 villages before you sent your attacks.

Yes you had a claim on the village but why, if you see us eating, would you not mail and ask?

We target 1 or 2 at a time and we stay on them until they are rimmed. I'm sorry but with the losses we suffered the village won't be returned. If needed you can ask your diplomat to forward you reports of our losses.

~Bee

xxxxxxx today at 16:43
hmm okay i understand, i guess your right also, but next time can you tell your guys to claim villages because i dont want to cross noble, and i specially dont want to clear villages for other people to noble

FaceBook Staulkers today at 16:50
yea, its understandable... but to be honest, we aren't claiming on the planner because their is concern with leaks. I mean seriously, when is SKYPE going to actually show they are actively waring? Until then, I won't risk leaks. Sorry :(

I will however, see if we can include you in our next op. Seems our ops tend to be organized. We'll soon see how organized though. Word has it the next three targets are all heavily stacked.

xxxxxxx today at 16:52
okay that would be great :D, ive been wanting to take out onfire targets for a long time :D :icon_redface: :icon_eek:

FaceBook Staulkers today at 17:15
really?

I would have thought you (and SKYPE in general) would have been conducting ops on them already?

xxxxxxx today at 17:38
well i was told to take out prinxexa asap, and we havent really done any ops, i dont know whether it was intensional or not, but SKYPE hasnt organised any ops against onfire, only asked for support /:

quite a let down really :icon_eek: , but the tribe is active so thats alright i guess

SKYPE members name is hidden from the public, I'm sure reece and the others will know who i've chatted with. Its not like me to publicly reveal names so don't ask. (oh, and I added the smilies)

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slinkiestwizard

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wow that spoiler says a lot right there FB , im wondering what else will be pulled out of your hat prior to New Years :)
 

DeletedUser

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Why does it not shock me at all? Nothing ever is as it seems in W59.
 

DeletedUser

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I know exactly who you've been speaking to yes & I can understand your point.

In the last few days we have not taken onfire villages, but that under no circumstances means that we are no longer actively warring them. It just means we aren't at this present moment.

If you didn't want to risk leaks then we shouldn't be even risking a shared noble planner. We have enemies in common & it was put in place to avoid any corss noblings. Your player should have made a claim for the village if he intended to take it.

You had been eating that player, but that village had been left alone & not cleared. My player cleared the village & was in the porcess of nobling it.

This matter should not have been brought to the forums, you should've discussed this with me first, but now it's here this can be dealt with very quuickly.

We will talk on skype when you're back & get this resolved as soon as possible. We share a common enemy & should not be focusing on issues between ourselves.

But next time please advise all your members to make claims on the noble planner so we know which villages to avoid.

Thank you
 

DeletedUser

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well, honestly, I found this to be a little interesting. Makes me wonder if a war is actually taking place. Seriously, even SKYPE members don't know.

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FaceBook Staulkers today at 17:55


SKYPE members name is hidden from the public, I'm sure reece and the others will know who i've chatted with. Its not like me to publicly reveal names so don't ask. (oh, and I added the smilies)

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Well Tecstrom was rimmed and kicked from Onfire, Shika has lost villages and will be rimmed, we do not attack randomly. We do ops
 

velibor

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Our ops are need to know basis only...this player wasn't close enough to our current targets thus was left out of the loop for the duration of the ops...he could have foundout if he wanted to about our ops on tecstorm and shika only after they happened...as for diplomacy between onfire and goh...even if you are unaware of the diplomacy (as a regular goh member) your leaders should know by now that you're marked as Allies on their forums.
 
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DeletedUser

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BTW Waves if we had leaks, our targets would be stacked. Shika was not stacked and we claimed him up. Plus Onfire had no clue we had alliance with Pita. Even tho they tried to say they had a spy. lol
 

DeletedUser

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Except for one village, Shika lost all his villages at our landing time which should just about conclude this episode of us not participating in an active war with onfire.

I would also like the credit for this op to go to Velibor & all the guys that participated in his op
 

DeletedUser

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Did you really want to take down Skype so hard on the externals waves?
 

slinkiestwizard

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Did you really want to take down Skype so hard on the externals waves?


skype wasnt taken down hard , but with mail like this

xxxxxxx today at 17:38
well i was told to take out prinxexa asap, and we havent really done any ops, i dont know whether it was intensional or not, but SKYPE hasnt organised any ops against onfire, only asked for support /:

quite a let down really , but the tribe is active so thats alright i guess

^ from a skype member it kind of makes you wonder. From what ive seen skype is exchanging villages back and forth with Onfire . Not really a war just the inability to defend what youve just taken on both sides. The claim to no opps on skypes side shows either poor leadership or poor judgment .

Why would we post claims in a shared planner if we feared skype had spies , if they do nukes and trains go splat.

The other side of this is we control k 55 any advancement into 54 would be by way of the border or week long trains with support following. Why in Gods name would skype look to claim the border villages knowing full well the direction we were going. this was explained to reece .

I dont blame FB for posting that , hell i would have done it myself . That mail shows that skype isnt fully engaged as it should be , based on the fact even there members dont no whats going on.


Shave is aware of the Shika op and congrats to SKYPE on finally showing some successful maneuvers. Hopefully there will be more like this in the future.
We know whats going on in speechless for 2 weeks and we arent even there , last i heard they were up to 6 tribes and counting . Yeah we just lol !
 

velibor

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skype wasnt taken down hard , but with mail like this



^ from a skype member it kind of makes you wonder. From what ive seen skype is exchanging villages back and forth with Onfire . Not really a war just the inability to defend what youve just taken on both sides. The claim to no opps on skypes side shows either poor leadership or poor judgment .

Why would we post claims in a shared planner if we feared skype had spies , if they do nukes and trains go splat.

The other side of this is we control k 55 any advancement into 54 would be by way of the border or week long trains with support following. Why in Gods name would skype look to claim the border villages knowing full well the direction we were going. this was explained to reece .

I dont blame FB for posting that , hell i would have done it myself . That mail shows that skype isnt fully engaged as it should be , based on the fact even there members dont no whats going on.


Shave is aware of the Shika op and congrats to SKYPE on finally showing some successful maneuvers. Hopefully there will be more like this in the future.
We know whats going on in speechless for 2 weeks and we arent even there , last i heard they were up to 6 tribes and counting . Yeah we just lol !

Like i said in the past...the need to know basis between players on our current standings and ops is precaution against spies. Even tough im positive onfire doesn't have a spy in Skype we need to ensure no other tribes have a spy in here either. Having a noble planner for it not to be used pretty much beats the purpose of shared noble planner. (in this case it was used on our behalf...shoulda just mailed my member and said there was an op and all this coulda been avoided) . I understand your fears against spies within a different tribe/in this case mine/ but i assure you, we have none...if we are to work together against a common enemy please restrain from attempting to shake our external pressence thats all im asking for.
 
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DeletedUser96310

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veli, it was more an attempt to maybe provide a little incentive to make some noise in your favor. Seems your op on Shika went nicely thanks in part of you and poqq. After speaking with Poqq I'm sure we'll see more of this. :)
 
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