Skype's Little Trip To Turtle

[DeletedUser88502]

my bad I was meant to reference mayham not skype XD

And no I dont run anything veli for your information, I hate dealing with bs leaders like yourself, hence I stopped leading tribes after a merger in w68.

Its play styles like your own that have seen a decline in players of the past 4 years as they cant be bothered anymore because you zap the fun out of the game not to mention other reasons ;D

and funny that you say the acct holder has gone on holiday, again probably bs ;D

 

[DeletedUser]

Its play styles like your own that have seen a decline in players of the past 4 years as they cant be bothered anymore because you zap the fun out of the game not to mention other reasons ;D

and funny that you say the acct holder has gone on holiday, again probably bs ;D

Just because you dont like veli or the way in which he plays doesn't mean that he "zaps the fun out of the game". That claim is outlandish and really just dumb. Personally i feel the exact opposite and commend Veli for the spirit of which he plays. Its contagious as is evident of the core group of players who stay loyal to him.

As for omnis. I doubt anyone cares whether or not you believe that he is now traveling the world.

To assume someone is lying just because you don't like them is a form of ignorance. See something from another persons perspective, maybe you will realize how dumb you sound.

 

[DeletedUser88502]

Not really mate, i'm assuming his lying because I talk to yak on skype who is on the omni account.

now you are making assumptions, and each to their own really.

Yeah its true I dont like Veli due to (in my opinion) his underhanded tactics, I have quit before because of players with a similar style of play and I know a lot of other players have quit for the same reasons.

Its not fun playing the game when you cant even trust your own tribe mates or allies and you feel like you are getting shafted, whole reason Frazer and I sided with turtle after leaving C2 was because Trent treated us with respect and was honest and open from the start can not say the same for Veli (for reasons I dont have to justify to you).

There is a lot of history and still things going on that you wouldnt know about and also that I dont know about so to make assumptions I guess is dumb as you say but your above statement is some what hypocritical, you should take your own advice and as you say see from someone else's perspective.

I will not deny that he has done well to still be in the game still I will also commend him for that, dont have to agree with the style he plays nor you mine or anyone else's everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

 

[DeletedUser]

Not really mate, i'm assuming his lying because I talk to yak on skype who is on the omni account.

Well hes not, so theres that. I was briefly sitting the account today and actually am in a chat with the other players who are sitting it. Haven't even heard of Yak. So what do you mean he is on the account?

now you are making assumptions, and each to their own really.

I'm not.

Yeah its true I dont like Veli due to (in my opinion) his underhanded tactics, I have quit before because of players with a similar style of play and I know a lot of other players have quit for the same reasons.

There are people in every tribe who use underhanded tactics. So if your still shy about it, i would argue you just lack the knowhow of whats really going on.

Its not fun playing the game when you cant even trust your own tribe mates or allies and you feel like you are getting shafted, whole reason Frazer and I sided with turtle after leaving C2 was because Trent treated us with respect and was honest and open from the start can not say the same for Veli (for reasons I dont have to justify to you).

Underhanded tactics right in front of your eyes and yet your are blind to it. Trent's no angel. Ive had many conversations with Veli and he is always straight up and will be blunt about things. Maybe he would just say things you didn't like to hear?

There is a lot of history and still things going on that you wouldnt know about and also that I dont know about so to make assumptions I guess is dumb as you say but your above statement is some what hypocritical, you should take your own advice and as you say see from someone else's perspective.

Can you come up with a more broad statement? I don't claim to know everything but i promise i know a lot more of whats going on in this world than you.

 

[DeletedUser84716]

The turtle side seems to love slagging off velibor. What I see is a leader that stands up for his tribe and have been able to keep his tribe together against incredible odds.

If anything is sucking the life out of this world it is the end world pact between Cruel and Turtle. But having said that, it is what is no point crying about it.

When getting personal on the externals remember, in the end it is but a game. Play hard play fair and have fun.

A lesson I had to learn the hard way.

 

[velibor]

Not really mate, i'm assuming his lying because I talk to yak on skype who is on the omni account.

now you are making assumptions, and each to their own really.

Yeah its true I dont like Veli due to (in my opinion) his underhanded tactics, I have quit before because of players with a similar style of play and I know a lot of other players have quit for the same reasons.

Its not fun playing the game when you cant even trust your own tribe mates or allies and you feel like you are getting shafted, whole reason Frazer and I sided with turtle after leaving C2 was because Trent treated us with respect and was honest and open from the start can not say the same for Veli (for reasons I dont have to justify to you).

There is a lot of history and still things going on that you wouldnt know about and also that I dont know about so to make assumptions I guess is dumb as you say but your above statement is some what hypocritical, you should take your own advice and as you say see from someone else's perspective.

I will not deny that he has done well to still be in the game still I will also commend him for that, dont have to agree with the style he plays nor you mine or anyone else's everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

My underhanded tactics got my tribe to where it is today. Wether they're underhanded or not is up to debate because everyone's point of view is biast and noone knows the entire situation...

However for everyone reading this...keep in mind iam being told that Iam underhanded by someone who left turtle and joined respct "to be with his friends"-(mortis quote) right when Omnis came knocking on his door and Skype+RESPCT entirely surrounded him. Then applied to Cruel the same day...got put on a waiting list... Then got kicked out by his friends in RESPCT for being underhanded to finally return back home to turtle where they welcomed him with open arms-all in a few days work.

[spoil] For those of you wondering why Chip hates me i'll tell you a quick summary. Chip was my Spy on turtle back when he was in kaboom...gave me claims, shared forums info etc... (gratitude for me saving his ass from Kaboom during DNY war as well as supporting him when Cold a tribe half his size were whopping his ass and his tribemates in kaboom wouldn't). While C2 and Skype were fighting Turtle together (skype fighting C2 supporting)...C2 players started pulling a lot of support...Chip in particular...i contacted my friend in Turtle who told me that there was some talk about Chip being their newest addition...

I had long lasting relations with chip beforehand thus I didn't entirely believe it but I contacted Ladd3r and told him to be cautious just incase...what i did not know was that at the time not only Chip had made the deal...but the deal was made by the entire C2 council where they would all eventually move to turtle.

Ladd3r+Apple (i think was his name...he wound up quitting after a bit of a fight...original owner of ladd3r quit as well after skype did an op on him including over 500 nukes and countless cats...then ladd3r account was used as a pingpong ball amongst turtles trying to get someone on there to play it) stayed behind to use active C2 players as meatshields for as long as he could before the move while Chip and Morrison jumped ship early on...after I realized that their entire council had a pending invitation just watiing for the right time i declared war on C2...and sent trent a message including all the info Chip had forwarded me during his time in Kaboom. He nearly got kicked from Turtle and left with nowhere to go because of it...thus the resentment...

fortunatelly enough turtle are always in a desperate need of meatshields thus the good outweighed the bad.[/spoil]

 

[DeletedUser114076]

Lmao^

Crawl back into your hole you cretin.

 

[rich26ca]

vel you do alot of underhanded things but thats all part of the game no point dwelling on it... Trent did as well during the respect war... I personally don't play those game but as i said all part of the game just have to deal with it... but to say its in question that you are a shady guy is laughable even you have to admit that there is evidence of the lies and attempted manipulation all over these forums...

as well vel you clearly haven't a clue as to the switching of tribes that recently happened... other then once out of turtle he applied to cruel your comments show that very clearly... and the quote with out names and dates is hardly evidence of anything... as for omnis don't make me laugh omnis doesn't attack anything unless its an internal, barb or 1/4 his size... and if he is gone he has only been gone for 4-5 days as i just spoke with the original player on skype unless your suggesting that all three players that were on that account are week ago are all now MIA....

 

[DeletedUser113867]

he obviously meant mayhem and captcha's attacks on noobs not skype... and are you trying to say you had anything to do with ladder or speedy both inactive accounts long before you guys launched on them...

Liar.

Bad luck? How about that time somebody dumped his account with over 7k incomings on others to account sit while they mysteriously play on in another world? :icon_evil: What a gem of a play that was Greg.

This was posted by one of the turtle alliance, saying how ladd3r dumped the account on a tribe member.

Then this by the ladd3r account owner

I hope those clear things up for you mawgwi, i didn't dump it I had the account when it was at 12k incs without a panic. When it got to about 8k incs left over is when you offered to sit while I slept. If you're suggesting I dumped it on you to solve when i had already solved thousands and two waves of attacks a few days before, most of my support at the time support my team too - that was not the case. I fought hard and when i finally got my net back I saw that my tribe has disbanded so felt no need to return with the account more useful in trents hands.

He set the account sitter with 8k incoming and never returned, he even posted it in the forum.

 

[rich26ca]

dan isnt the original owner and was not the first time the account came under heavy fire... dan did bail not denying that at all... but it happened before any villages were lost... the account didn't start taking major losses till we had already internalled most of the account...

 

[velibor]

dan isnt the original owner and was not the first time the account came under heavy fire... dan did bail not denying that at all... but it happened before any villages were lost... the account didn't start taking major losses till we had already internalled most of the account...

Dan is not the original player (another lie)-----misread previous message---did not lie in this instance

...dennis is the original owner...dan-(rl name greg) is a player you put on there when the first owner quit due to Skypes previous hits...prior to greg moving on ladd3r account to replace the original owner (dennis), greg was coplaying on an account in turtle...as a matter of fact I posted a picture of his mail to me stating that he was coplaying on a turtle account before coming on ladd3r when it became empty on another thread on externals...perhaps its even thisone...when I have some time i'll dig it up for ya so you can't attempt to discredit it by simply calling it a lie as well.

You stated Skype had nothing to do with the demise of the 2 accounts...i think making the owners quit 1 after the other trough catting ops counts as demise in just about everyone's eyes. Just because you internalled most of the villages before Skype got to them doesn't mean that the account wasn't a casualty of war. He beat you with the argument above regardless how you try to paraphrase it to belittle being caught in a bold lie.

 

[rich26ca]

lol...

i said dan was not the original player and you respond saying the same thing then say im lying... think you may need to re-read what i posted there mate...

and Greg was not in turtle... him and Trent hated each other. Dennis added him there as they co played on another world together... which greg has already posted in these forums saying that... ill edit this post when i have more time and post the quotes from greg denying what your saying and the quotes he posted about the time line of him coming over... had nothing to do with turtle... it wasn't till you started to threaten him that he came to turtle due to me and chip already being friends with him and Dennis. If you hadn't pulled the classic vel move of do what i want to die... he would have joined against turtle as i said above him and Trent had a hate on for each other from when he was in the south...

 

[velibor]

lol...

i said dan was not the original player and you respond saying the same thing then say im lying... think you may need to re-read what i posted there mate...

and Greg was not in turtle... him and Trent hated each other. Dennis added him there as they co played on another world together... which greg has already posted in these forums saying that... ill edit this post when i have more time and post the quotes from greg denying what your saying and the quotes he posted about the time line of him coming over... had nothing to do with turtle... it wasn't till you started to threaten him that he came to turtle due to me and chip already being friends with him and Dennis. If you hadn't pulled the classic vel move of do what i want to die... he would have joined against turtle as i said above him and Trent had a hate on for each other from when he was in the south...

Greg came over on the account under orders. He was coplaying inturtle prior and I have a Skype convo where he admits this to me. The reason greg posted that he hated trent on externals was because at the time he contacted me to get a ceasefire because he had just gotten on an account which was half destroyed half empty of troops. I granted him the request but under suspicion...within the next 48 hours I found my entire chat with him had wound up in turtle hands because he had passed every single word back to trent...Chip himself admitted this to me in a mail and copied and pasted some of the things he had said....including the entire layout of an op on Morrison I had set up and planned out with greg when he approached me for peace. (fortunatelly enough I had a backup op planned incase the op was leaked...which I foundout it was and proceeded to hit another player instead of morrison at the time)

I confronted greg prior to ending the ceasefire with C2 with evidence chip gave me and he told me that he doesn't like spying or underhanded tactics thus he gave turtle the info...admitting that he had no intentions of ever working with Skype.

(^ this also can be found on externals as a part of a massive message i posted a while ago)

Back on topic
Original owner dennis quit from continuous pressure from Skype and catting...

Greg(dan) wound up on the account...after screwing me wound up with 12k incomings...also couldn't handle the pressure and quit...

Don't see how Greg not being the original owner makes Skype not the cause of Ladd3r accounts destruction.

 

[DeletedUser88502]

propaganda got to love it XD

Veli sorry mate but again not on track with your info, speaking half truths as you always appear to do.

Next time your in chats with a co player from another account dont try and poach them and things might work out to your advantage

That was the turning point for me in our little chats all those months ago when we were with C2, the fact you wanted to screw chip over so much and turn everyone against him.

You talk about the core of skype being all loyal and crap kudos to them, chip did a lot of stuff for you and despite what you pull out of your photoshop archives you always have had the intent of leaving him out to dry, so why not side with turtle at least they have done right by us even in times of uncertainty.

You all slag off about trent and yeah maybe he has done some crap things in the past havent we all none of us are saints, time to get on with it.


When are you planning another trip to turtle?? (get the topic back on track)

 

[rich26ca]

uhmmm cough cough....

Just saying...

but keep doing you boo....

 

[DeletedUser88502]

Break out your Foil Ladies an Gents!!

 

[DeletedUser]

Awww how cute, Serb thought I went inactive and sent a few scouts and a train of defense troops with no nukes :lol: Better high-tail it and run, no free villages here.

 

[velibor]

ROFL .... What exactly is that message supposed to prove? That instead of Trent himself personally giving him the password Dennis gave him the password before he bailed?

Is trent not personally handing the password supposed to prove that dan wasn't in turtle in some majestic way?

I posted a convo on that same forum where @"@"@"@DAN clearly stated@"@"@" that he WAS COPLAYING A TURTLE ACCOUNT before coming on ladd3r account.

 

[DeletedUser88502]

Awww how cute, Serb thought I went inactive and sent a few scouts and a train of defense troops with no nukes :lol: Better high-tail it and run, no free villages here.

:icon_eek: look out!!

 

[DeletedUser113867]

dan isnt the original owner and was not the first time the account came under heavy fire... dan did bail not denying that at all... but it happened before any villages were lost... the account didn't start taking major losses till we had already internalled most of the account...

He was on hells toy master before ladd3r i believe.

He may not have been the original but he did take over the account when the original owner quit, he might have not lost a village at first but quit while still under attack meaning attacks had something to do with that account going inactive.

People get tired constantly being attacked and start to get tired after a few days of lots of attacks, at first they stay up a little late and get up a little early but after 3-4 days it begins to catch up with them so they start sleeping more and then say im out of time.

THey have less time because they are constantly attacked and are so tired there days are smaller. So it is due to attacks alot quit when they say they run out of time.