This is precisely the point many are making. The very nature of an alliance is one of MUTUAL BENEFIT, if one partner in that alliance becomes a burden or a hindrance to the other it is foolish and illogical to assume the alliance would continue long past that occurrence.
And there we go Slurp! Straight from the horse's mouth. I know that's how Wobble views their alliances, but Mike doesn't think that. He thinks you will always be there for them... :icon_cry:
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They obviously did say it was a good alliance, and your information is clearly just a tad more limited given the whole thing could've been a plot devised to give Slurp! the attacking advantage. But seeing as you don't know that, I think everyone would appreciate you not making assumptions. Again, you're complaining because a backstab didn't go your way. A backstab you encouraged. Yet you condemn backstabbers...so why should they side with you when clearly you don't like backstabbers? They made the most beneficial choice available to them.
I don't say it's a good alliance when your allies say "jump" and your members begin to say "how high"? I would treat my allies with more respect than that. Involving that tribe in discussions before I ask their members to launch on the shared forums. I would also say that those in the DRUNKS council I spoke to agreed with me.
You said "I haven't asked anything of them". I quoted you literally asking something of them. And you never answered that I said you were trying to inspire dissent, not directly saying "Leave and attack your duke!". And you also never answered that the inspiration of dissent is what you're going for. You think no one picks up on how you're trying to get players to leave? Really? Lol.
No, you said I told them to
backstab their duke. I was not. I only asked them to question the events and their duke's actions. Nothing more, nothing less.
And after sharing the "spoils" of that war? Ah yeah, you hate backstabbers, but you'd have kept them around. Sure. Right. Very convincing. There doesn't have to be an allied win for Wobble to recruit players from Slurp!. And besides, the world is still young; it's a certainty that you hate backstabbers and have no reason to keep them around if they betrayed their allies before. If they stick it out with Wobble, they could join Wobble, merge, and more options are available. They made the better choice.
Options that do not include any survival of their tribe. A merge would be the best result, but even then I can only see a few players wobble or us would want to take in. If they had thought wobble, they would have fresh recruits and growth on an unstacked border had they chosen that option. Their loss. But then again, only time will tell if they did make the right choices.