Something is rotten in the state of PITA

[DeletedUser]

@WeIsNubs

About the abuse James gave Scrappy in game, the things he said in skype chats with other people are more abusive then anything James said. These are some of the things he said of many:

[spoil]4/26/12 11:40:33 PM] scrappy: you keep making up your own excuses
[4/26/12 11:40:47 PM] Vinny Loyola - (Bing/Robinr): you are not getting any simpathy from me
[4/26/12 11:41:01 PM] scrappy: then you arent human
[4/26/12 11:41:38 PM] scrappy: and if you are, please tell me how to contact your family, ill show them that you arent a real person
[4/26/12 11:41:41 PM] Vinny Loyola - (Bing/Robinr): you lost my respect when you started attacking and calling people names[/spoil]


My coplayer Sonya and I were friends with scrappy, so we wanted to make sure what Justin and James said was accurate. We gave Scrappy 24 hours to prove his innocence.
I started this world on the Men Who Wear Bras :icon_redface: account, starting right next to the PITA players Davy Crockett and Bing Bong Brothers. Ever since the start of the world, we have been very good friends. Scrappy decides to attack Davy Crockett and BBB whilst they are offline because that's how he likes to operate and then claims they attacked him first which is a complete lie. How can they attack him first when they were offline? We even asked him to prove his statement that they attacked first with reports, but he refuses to.
You will see more of his lies in the next spoiler...

[spoil][26/04/2012 1:44:33 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: i find it funny
[26/04/2012 1:45:19 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: uou guys are wasting troop on me when you have enemies
[26/04/2012 1:45:41 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: you think im an enemy cause of what james has said
[26/04/2012 1:45:53 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy:but hes making it up
[26/04/2012 1:46:21 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: so now im going to kill pita for james's lies
[26/04/2012 11:43:38 PM] Sonya: I am wasting nukes on you because you nuked my friends
[26/04/2012 11:43:55 PM] Sonya: in particular DC and Vinny
[26/04/2012 11:43:58 PM] Sonya: not cool
[26/04/2012 11:44:12 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: good then you are doing what i wanted
[26/04/2012 11:46:25 PM] Sonya: what you wanted me to waste nukes or support my friends
[26/04/2012 11:48:19 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: no since i was accused of being a spy of whichim not. and since i was attacked first by james and justin. i wanted pita to show me there troops and from where
[26/04/2012 11:48:31 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: and you fools fell into it nicely
[26/04/2012 11:48:39 PM] Sonya: whatever Jeff
[26/04/2012 11:48:42 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: now i have sent all that info to you enemies
[26/04/2012 11:48:58 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: oh and by the way sonya
[26/04/2012 11:49:04 PM] Sonya: you are just proving the case
[26/04/2012 11:49:13 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: gotrob is getting ready to end there alliance now too
[26/04/2012 11:49:19 PM] Sonya: i told you why I attacked you
[26/04/2012 11:49:28 PM] Sonya: its cause you attacked my friends
[26/04/2012 11:49:31 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: and i told you why i attacked pita
[26/04/2012 11:49:37 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: i asked for 24 hours
[26/04/2012 11:49:43 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: of which you agreed
[26/04/2012 11:49:52 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: but james and justin attacked me right away
[26/04/2012 11:49:55 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: so stfu
[26/04/2012 11:49:55 PM] Sonya: then YOU attacked my good friends
[26/04/2012 11:50:11 PM] Sonya: i never attacked you until you hit them
[26/04/2012 11:50:17 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: yopu are just like james and justin
[26/04/2012 11:50:21 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: a liar
[26/04/2012 11:50:31 PM] Sonya: whatever
[26/04/2012 11:50:45 PM] Sonya: you cleared DC and Vinny before I sent a thing
[26/04/2012 11:50:59 PM] Sonya: if that makes me a liar so be it
[26/04/2012 11:51:02 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: whatever liar, i held my word on you, i didnt attack you
[26/04/2012 11:51:11 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: but you dont have a word
[26/04/2012 11:51:13 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: liar
[26/04/2012 11:51:16 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: you attacked me
[26/04/2012 11:51:21 PM] Sonya: yes i did
[26/04/2012 11:51:30 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: i attacked whom attacked me 1st
[26/04/2012 11:51:37 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: so you lied
[26/04/2012 11:51:38 PM] Sonya: i was unaware that you had attacked people
[26/04/2012 11:51:42 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: i didnt attack you
[26/04/2012 11:51:54 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: they attacked me 1st
[26/04/2012 11:51:58 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: so please
[26/04/2012 11:52:01 PM] Sonya: DC never attacked you
[26/04/2012 11:52:07 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: bullshit
[26/04/2012 11:52:08 PM] Sonya: Vinny never attacked you
[26/04/2012 11:52:22 PM] Sonya: you cleared him while he was sleeping
[26/04/2012 11:52:25 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: i have my proof of them attacking
[26/04/2012 11:52:30 PM] Sonya: you attacked him first
[26/04/2012 11:52:37 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: .care to keep showing your ass
[26/04/2012 11:52:42 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: liar
[26/04/2012 11:52:59 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: they attacked me 1st
[26/04/2012 11:53:08 PM] Sonya: DC attacked you?
[26/04/2012 11:53:16 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy:yes
[26/04/2012 11:53:20 PM] Sonya: Vinny attacked you?
[26/04/2012 11:53:22 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: keep on lying
[26/04/2012 11:53:30 PM] Sonya: wow you are deluded
[26/04/2012 11:53:31 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: your word is shit
[26/04/2012 11:53:37 PM] Sonya: please leave me alone
[26/04/2012 11:53:40 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: i have the attack reports
[26/04/2012 11:53:44 PM] Sonya: show me
[26/04/2012 11:55:17 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: what does it matter sonya, your word is no better. you gave me 24 hours, of which i can get it if you dont remember. but then you attacked me. why would i want to show you anything since you cant even hoild your own word
[26/04/2012 11:55:27 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: you are what 35/36
[26/04/2012 11:55:30 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: and you lie
[26/04/2012 11:55:31 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: still
[26/04/2012 11:55:40 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: god help your kids
[26/04/2012 11:55:50 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: and our worlds future <<<< Is this guy for real?
[26/04/2012 11:56:05 PM] Sonya: Jeff you are making this personal
[26/04/2012 11:56:11 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: yes
[26/04/2012 11:56:25 PM] Sonya: you attacked vinny and DC before they launched at you
[26/04/2012 11:56:29 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: james and justin made it personal
[26/04/2012 11:56:38 PM] Sonya: I launched when I heard you attacked them
[26/04/2012 11:56:44 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: so now im doing whatever i can to ruin pita
[26/04/2012 11:56:49 PM] Sonya: i am not lying
[26/04/2012 11:56:58 PM] Sonya: do not speak of my child
[26/04/2012 11:57:19 PM] Sonya: and if you care to make threats at me it just shows me the type of person you are
[26/04/2012 11:58:18 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: bullshit, you are going to tell me you didnt give me 24 hours? and then you are trying to tell me i attacked you? no i didnt. then you are going to try and tell me you didnt attack me after what 6 hours of you saying i ad 24 hours
[26/04/2012 11:58:28 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: thats a liar[/spoil]

Look at the part in italics, he said he has the reports, yet he refuses to show it. It takes perhaps 10 seconds to forward a report, yet he doesn't do it.
He makes things personal, bringing Sonya's son into things.
He denies spying, yet he sent a mail to Zeta saying that Battzz is PITA's spy which he first denies claiming it might be co players, yet comes out and admits it.
He says Gotrob is preparing to end the alliance, yet nothing has happened. It's been a week since Scrappy got kicked and nobled, yet I don't see Gotrob ending our alliance. I'd dare to say our current relationship is stronger than ever at this moment in time.


When Scrappy got kicked from the tribe, I was sleeping since this took place from 3-5am my time. Naturally I woke up to deeply confused by what happened, after listening to my leaderships side of the argument and reading the convo with Sonya, I decided to ask Scrappy about it.

[spoil]

ReaverofSouls on 26.04. at 15:28
Whats up ladies and gents, no worries I won't take much of your time.

If you have had attacks from me I am sorry, to those of you that took some of my villages. Nicely done, now you want to know why all this has happened?

I was accsued of being a spy by james by a mere screen shot, I know this cause alot of you have told me thats james's proof.

I got the info from my spy gaz, and i merely copied it and showed james like all my other reports i have posted about other tribes. I have been nothing but a loyal penguin and to be accused of something i did not do is just insane.

I have helped alot of you grow by prenobling villages and or supprted when asked. But since james and justin want to fabricate things about me personally. I am now taking PITA personally, I am not a liar nor a spy. But rest assured one thing, I am going to make PITA's life a livig hell on w59. I have sent every report i have whether is me attacking or you guys attacking to every top tribe on w59. You guys have no more friends on w59 I assure. Justin thinks his own shit doesnt stink cause hes head blogger on tw, well guess what. Justin knows my full reputation in TW as the mods have a chatroom just for me.

If you think I cant do what i just said above, think again. go ask morthy or jirki or atlantia, pita is as good as dead on w59 and you can take it to the bank.

Scrappy

PS sonya you and your 24 hour time to prove me innocene was mere BS, you attacked me within 6 hours of your word to prove. You are nothing but a bigot and your word means nothing. For those that dont know whom sonya is, its irish in game.

Irish53 on 26.04. at 17:24
you called her a bigot for no reason after she said she would give you 24 hours to prove your innocence, what did you expect?

Why do I have the mail you sent to Zeta then huh? Someone on your account sent a mail to tuff council saying that batzz was a spy... explain that then.

ReaverofSouls on 26.04. at 17:29
yes i called her a bigot, she gave me 24 hours and then attacked not even 6 hours later. so yes shes a bigot.

on these mails people are saying i sent, no i fricking didnt. i have been working 17 hour days and have really not had alot of time to even play tw. I am in my final week for my job and its my certification week. I have only been on tw like an hour a day now for the past week. I have not done any mails and to be honest i havent attacked anyone since then either until yesterday when i logged on to see i got kicked over something i did not do.
I have no mails in my account backing this and im pissed for you guys to even accuse me when i have done nothing but help pita.

Irish53 on 26.04. at 17:41
you say this... but why the hell have i been forwarded a mail showing that you did send it?

The first attacks were accidentally, she apoligized for it, no nobles had been sent yet.... yet you still call her a bigot.

ReaverofSouls on 26.04. at 17:43
she never apologized for anything. get your facts straight

[/spoil]

The bold parts of the mail are related, as you can see he denied ever spying on us yet again. More of his lies and bullshit.
The italic part shows my response to this since James forwarded the mail to me showing that scrappy did send the mail. Funny how he doesn't respond to my question and only responded to the second part where he started insulting Sonya.

Finally:

[26/04/2012 18:22:10] Ben (the.tool): for some reason he keeps saying mine, kenny, will and liams names and liam has even recieved messages asking if hes leaving and tbh i can vouch for those four ppl as definately not leaving

He said people will leave the tribe for him because of what Justin and James did. I'm the second person on that list posted by the.tool and can tell you for sure I will not be leaving the tribe for him, nor did he even contact me about leaving the tribe. So I'm sorry WeIsNubs, but most of what Scrappy said to you was all a little lie and part of his mind games. He is a hypocrite, reporting James for threatening him, yet he wants to meet people's family's and talk smack about my co-players son. You haven't exposed anything about PITA's leadership, even though Justin does suck somewhat he is still one of the best dukes any tribe could have. I have nothing bad to say about James, only good things, but that's another story. He's not a loyal member at all, and he disgusts me as a human being, for someone his age it's worrying and sad.

Sorry for the long read, but I felt it was necessary.

Kenny(Irish53-PITA)

 

[DeletedUser]

[26/04/2012 11:56:44 PM] scrappy/jeff/fine frenzy: so now im doing whatever i can to ruin pita :icon_redface:

Settles this post, he ll go to any lengths lol.

 

[DeletedUser]

I am Scrappys friend and he has not wronged me as you say he has wronged other including yourselves.
Scrappy is banned from posting on the externals so I was doing a friend a favor (Well he might not see it in that light) by posting our private chat on the externals. I felt this chat had something to give to the world, whether that being an insight into how PITA really works or that Scrappy was rightfully kicked.

I am still skeptical towards PITA despite your rebuttal to the original post, as I feel there are questions to be asked of the PITA - GotRob - shAve triangle.
I feel PITA acted wrongly in how they went about their business and I am sure they do not act to their high standards all the time, those standards that they portray themselves to practice.
That could be said for any tribe though

This thread has been and is continueing to be a good insight into the worlds politics for an outsider and for insiders, I feel PITA have not been overly vocal so far on the externals so there are many myths about them floating around W59, it remains to be seen if they can live up to the claims others have made about them they seem to be fulfilling them so far.

Scrappy has his side of the story and others have their own portrayal of events, it was me who posted our chat, to my knowledge he does not yet know I have done so. It might be a bit unfar to completely slander his name here where he can not defend himself, and screen shots would add more belief to your (Aimed at anyone who used quotes from Skype/IGM) posts regarding him.

Oh and Skype me if you want to discuss anything regarding this issue with me in private

 

[DeletedUser]

it was me who posted our chat, to my knowledge he does not yet know I have done so. It might be a bit unfar to completely slander his name here where he can not defend himself,

You should have though of this BEFORE making this thread.

And if he doesn't know, you have wronged him.

 

[DeletedUser]

You should have though of this BEFORE making this thread.

And if he doesn't know, you have wronged him.

Wronged maybe but slander? :icon_rolleyes:
This thread was in defense of him.....
Of course he was going to be slandered by others but if you know BRAT then he receives that regardless, he is not the most liked person in TW, maybe its justifiable. Though I fet his case needed to be heard to give him a fair chance.

I do however feel that in certain cases such as this, where it is relevant to the world as a whole and not just a single person then it should be posted, I have not slandered him, merely exposed either PITA's faults or his :icon_neutral:

 

[DeletedUser]

Lol at Weisnubs.

But I chuckled hard.

Weisnubs, out of all people, you are the one who shamelessly talk about the state of Pita? Hilarious. Who are you to say? When you are not even given the opportunity to be in a tribe even close to Pita. Just because you got "info" from who? Scrappy?

I wouldn't bother taking anything that was said by Scrappy Dum/Bratster in the Original Post, as being anything other than an attempt to stir up trouble. And from reading through it, this seemed to be quite an obvious attempt as well.

Anyone trusting scrappy's words is like welcoming a thief and trusting that he will not steal your possessions when you are away from home. It is impossible.

I am not saying this out of blind words. His reputation as BRATSTER says from himself especially when he takes pride in using deceit to break small rim tribes. :lol:

 

[DeletedUser]

I am Scrappys friend and he has not wronged me as you say he has wronged other including yourselves.
Scrappy is banned from posting on the externals so I was doing a friend a favor (Well he might not see it in that light) by posting our private chat on the externals. I felt this chat had something to give to the world, whether that being an insight into how PITA really works or that Scrappy was rightfully kicked.

I am still skeptical towards PITA despite your rebuttal to the original post, as I feel there are questions to be asked of the PITA - GotRob - shAve triangle.
I feel PITA acted wrongly in how they went about their business and I am sure they do not act to their high standards all the time, those standards that they portray themselves to practice.
That could be said for any tribe though

This thread has been and is continueing to be a good insight into the worlds politics for an outsider and for insiders, I feel PITA have not been overly vocal so far on the externals so there are many myths about them floating around W59, it remains to be seen if they can live up to the claims others have made about them they seem to be fulfilling them so far.

Scrappy has his side of the story and others have their own portrayal of events, it was me who posted our chat, to my knowledge he does not yet know I have done so. It might be a bit unfar to completely slander his name here where he can not defend himself, and screen shots would add more belief to your (Aimed at anyone who used quotes from Skype/IGM) posts regarding him.

Oh and Skype me if you want to discuss anything regarding this issue with me in private

Lol, obviously it was him who made u post. My yesterday's chat with scrappy

[5/1/2012 7:25:59 AM] scrappy: im going to expose all of pita
[5/1/2012 7:26:00 AM] Mav - Notanothernoob2: i ve ever met
[5/1/2012 7:26:02 AM] Mav - Notanothernoob2: haha
[5/1/2012 7:26:04 AM] Mav - Notanothernoob2: keep dreaming
[5/1/2012 7:26:09 AM] Mav - Notanothernoob2: * *** ******
[5/1/2012 7:26:12 AM] scrappy: its already in motion

 

[DeletedUser84667]

I hardly post on these forums, and I have been just reading for lols as I remember BRASTER being an idiot on W56 when it was playing as well. I used to think of ONE as a noob tribe for all of it's merges, but now learning that two very large tribes in the south had already formed an endgame alliance this early into the world when it has so much life left in it, just sad. Made my views of ONE go up, even with all the merging they have done.

 

[DeletedUser]

Well I'm confused.

First you make this thread, and PITA is asked for justification. PITA justifies, but that is unfair as he can't defend himself.

As sad as I am to say this, I wouldn't call what has been said about scrappy slander, as it is true. I think its the other way around, what been told about PITA is slander.

Also, on a sidenote, I don't think posting scrappy's skype convversations here would be wise, mainly because of the unthinkable and disgusting things he has said. That kind of content isn't allowed to be posted here anyways.

 

[DeletedUser]

Scrappy has his side of the story and others have their own portrayal of events, it was me who posted our chat, to my knowledge he does not yet know I have done so. It might be a bit unfar to completely slander his name here where he can not defend himself, and screen shots would add more belief to your (Aimed at anyone who used quotes from Skype/IGM) posts regarding him.

If I screen shot it I can still photoshop it, there's no different from me editing the words. What I posted is what was actually said. If you don't believe it, I couldn't care less. I don't plan to waste my time with scrappy anymore. He said he'd damage PITA, destroy it and get our allies to turn on us. None of that has happened as far as I'm concerned. His threats are empty, he's been easily nobled out by PITA.
You consider him as a friend, but what friend lies to you? I use to think of him as my friend, but he lied, plain and simple. He sent the mail to Zeta, he spied on PITA and he knows it. The funny part is, this all started because he had one of his little rants that he always has. He started insulting a Tuff player which has caused all this commotion, pathetic really. Nothing would ever cause me to betray my tribe and friends, and then insult them on a personal level.

 

[DeletedUser]

I was accsued of being a spy by james by a mere screen shot, I know this cause alot of you have told me thats james's proof.

I got the info from my spy gaz, and i merely copied it and showed james like all my other reports i have posted about other tribes. I have been nothing but a loyal penguin and to be accused of something i did not do is just insane.

I have helped alot of you grow by prenobling villages and or supprted when asked. But since james and justin want to fabricate things about me personally. I am now taking PITA personally, I am not a liar nor a spy. But rest assured one thing, I am going to make PITA's life a livig hell on w59. I have sent every report i have whether is me attacking or you guys attacking to every top tribe on w59. You guys have no more friends on w59 I assure. Justin thinks his own shit doesnt stink cause hes head blogger on tw, well guess what. Justin knows my full reputation in TW as the mods have a chatroom just for me.

If you think I cant do what i just said above, think again. go ask morthy or jirki or atlantia, pita is as good as dead on w59 and you can take it to the bank.

Scrappy

he is clearly delusional, a pathetic liar who find a purpose in annoying others and creating problems

and WeIsNubs , all this so called friendship of yours, its nothing else than an attempt to revenge on Pita, clearly you can see that your friend scrap is a liar :lol:

get a life man :icon_rolleyes:

 

[DeletedUser]

I agree with geani.

I am still skeptical towards PITA despite your rebuttal to the original post

I am still skeptical if you are serious... or just trolling. Cutting all the nonsense, you used barely above 10 words in response to the detailed answers from both the council of Pita and the tribe's members.

Unfortunately, your about-to-be tarnished reputation does not look bright if you continue to spiral down the path with BRATSTER to destroy or ruin PITA. (something along those lines :lol. But again, who am I to say? Go ahead and :icon_redface: yourself more.

 

[DeletedUser]

Such drama :S

When he first came over to PITA he didn't really seem that bad, but I've been gone for a while. After reading what other people have shared in this thread and knowing many of my ex-PITA tribemates for so long I know they are nothing like what scrappy is trying to characterize them as when speaking to you, although that need not even be said after the responses they've brought to this thread themselves. PITA has always been about tribe before the individual from the first day, it doesn't surprise me that an individual absorbed in self-gain would fail to thrive in that environment. If he's been as cancerous as the responses to this thread imply PITA is much better off now. It's always been a much greater tribe than merely the sum of its parts precisely because of the character of the players and leaders that run things.

 

[DeletedUser4587]

While I was still playing, I always hated scrappy. I viewed him as a toxic person and nothing more than a source of endless drama. I was glad when I saw he was getting nobled out. He is what made me stop participating in the PITA skype.

I think the measured and distinctly non-flame-like responses of the PITA members proves that PITA is nothing as scrappy is trying to describe it.

Wronged maybe but slander? :icon_rolleyes:
This thread was in defense of him.....
Of course he was going to be slandered by others but if you know BRAT then he receives that regardless, he is not the most liked person in TW, maybe its justifiable. Though I fet his case needed to be heard to give him a fair chance.

I do however feel that in certain cases such as this, where it is relevant to the world as a whole and not just a single person then it should be posted, I have not slandered him, merely exposed either PITA's faults or his :icon_neutral:

quit trying to pretend you're not scrappy. We know you are.

 

[DeletedUser]

i would post what he's said about me and the other females however it would probably get me an auto ban. the day we kicked him i removed him from skype and he removed me from ig friends listings, have not had contact with him since. i must say it has been much quieter on skype.

~jennie(

 

[DeletedUser]

Even though I do not know the full situation on this subject other then what I have been able to read here, I have a very distinct opinion on this matter. The way Scrappy has behaved and the way he acted simply disgusts me, I rarely see someone so disloyal and traitorous towards his fellow mates and friends. Even if any of this were true he had no right to bring up someones child in this, other then that he has only shown his true self by attacking his friends when things weren't going the way he wanted to. I find him pathetic and a fool. Nothing more I have to say about this.

 

[DeletedUser]

this thread makes me want to poop on myself

 

[TheHowling]

this thread makes me want to poop on myself

eek

 

[DeletedUser]

I hardly post on these forums, and I have been just reading for lols as I remember BRASTER being an idiot on W56 when it was playing as well. I used to think of ONE as a noob tribe for all of it's merges, but now learning that two very large tribes in the south had already formed an endgame alliance this early into the world when it has so much life left in it, just sad. Made my views of ONE go up, even with all the merging they have done.

I'm not going to comment much here, ref any specifics, but w8 started as a 'Bloc' Four tribes formed from w1 mainly..in each Quad- NE/NW/SE and yes..you guessed it.. SW

and that was the START of the world!

I see no issue with Good honest forward planning, and it is up to tribes to Plan well, Op well and deal with Diplomacy well, honestly and always aim to be at least two steps ahead -

So, in relation to W8, agreeing an 'End Game alliance' in December 2011, seems not unreasonable.

Ref Bratster - lol! Blue signing in with another testament to experiences of him on another world, that, to put it mildly, hardly cover His or 'The' Name in glory- far from it (By a Long Green Mile)

Personally, i'd be much more inclined to Take Jaurasu's well thought out reply as being much closer to the subjective hat we all know and consider to be "The Truth".

Best, Blue

 

[DeletedUser]

I love it when scrappy says, "You have no clue." LOL. Thinking back to all those skype chats (chuckle).