Stats and Predictions - Top 10 tribes

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  1. ITz.TD

    ITz.TD Contributing Poster

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    thanks for the review.
     
  2. TheBigGinge

    TheBigGinge Still Going Strong

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    Now this is what I like, good review and well put together, anyone who mentions me in the reviews of TEA are silly and just pathetic

    Thankyou
     
  3. Gwaihir aka Bluetomahawk

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    first of all to apologize for puting my 1st post in wrong topic. somewhere was a question about chances to win and i guess i wrong clicked this topic and forgot to check. so thx, bitcloud, realized it after yours. also, going a bit offtopic, so sorry again.

    first @Michael Corleone. , yeah i was actually trying to play this world pretty casually for fun, but since we were under attacks, for past month or so i just had to go def. figure you can't play this world casually, or is it just infamy area? :D and really don't have time to return any well planned attacks due to RL and i aswell feel i need to see if i can do any damage. i gues being pain is what will do this time :)

    @ChrisIIhoppy you're exaggerating a bit, only 2 backtimes, and gingy is right, i never backtimed him cause he only dared to follow attacks from his tribe. on vill he claimed. and that one ended on stacks (stacks came 24 hours after first attack sent as i coordinated them so). was it that or just waiting for sitting rule to end, i don't really know as first attack was sent from acc he used to sit.

    @TheBigGinge your disrespect for kirkman and ANTS is awfull even for a kid. ANTS had some good players and you ditching them didn't help them either. no one sent ramless nuke, but i backtimed with it, if you were so good you would noticed it and helped out. i have no intentions to go into any further argument with you as you've proved my points. i had every single reason to backstabb ANTS and kirkman, and had chance in war with JAGER, but instead i respected them enough to leave my vills and relocate. even if kirkman diserves disrespect, that constant language in externals is really to much.

    @xabbadonx - i said i don't care much about it.. ;) but yeah, i assume people are way to carefull on externals and it might have to do something with constant bashing of everyone. it's not all the inno fault... #makeexternalsgreatagain :D
     
  4. TRTKiNG

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    We all know one, Hardnutz not finish this world. :p
     
  5. suduvatlg

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    I think this is pretty much down to the top three tribes, so I'll base my thoughts on those.

    To start off, I'd like to say I have no affiliation with any of the top tribes; therefore, I don't really give a f--- about any of them, I do have to add though, that all of them have some pretty interesting roosters, and I hope they manage to give us, at least, one good final war to rap this world up.

    First, an overall insight:

    I think it's wiser for all top three tribes to keep on cleaning their backyard than running into this massive fight against each other (like someone mentioned earlier on some other thread), don't see benefits to either of them really when there's so much to eat still (easy growth) and we still have 72 days, around two and half months till someone can be declared as winner.

    TEA - Considering what I've seen since I got back playing on en86, and the way worlds work nowadays, I have to say that TEA is going with a winning strategy all the way, I understand there's a lot of negative comments regarding their strategy, but I think the game complexity has changed in such a way that in order to prevail stronger on what seems to be a balanaced rooster from the top sides, you have to adopt a strategy that's not really into everyone's liking, but in the end everyone's using it as one of the winning strategies, and TEA as been outstanding so far employing that strategy, we're not really seeing something new though, but nonetheless they're mastering it.

    BIP - I have to say I felt a bit surprised when they got Devils (plus a couple others) in again after their beef a while back, but again, that surely seemed the right move for them (both), at least if they want to, try and keep up with TEA.

    I sincerely hope BIP manages to outplay TEA's strategy, activity being key here, though you should notice that if TEA played their cards right, they already control one/two BIP accounts, and usually these are not ordinary accts, they have some sort of privs; therefore when the time comes, and with the list of players you guys got, you shouldn’t even complain, because that’s TEA strategy, you just have to prevent it from having a negative effect on you guys, and move forward. Of course, I'm neglecting the fact that BIP and TEA are playing the same strategy all in all P-W might be the exception to the rule here, so they might both have accts from both tribes under their control, this will prove interesting.

    Infamy - I am a bit worried about Infamy, they don’t seem to have been nobling at the rate the top two have (might be facing more resistance, but you know the TEA drill, more resistance means players you can have resisting alongside you rather than against you, and there’s no real benefit in joining sides if one of the top two sides decides on going on each other, maybe the best thing would be to wait and see what the final outcome would be of such a scenario and take advantage of it, of course, I doubt that happened, most likely BIP and TEA arrange some end game deal and gangbang you together, perhaps recruiting the best of you.

    Again, the TEA strategy is most likely already in place here, and they do control a couple of important accounts from your side.

    You might still play a vital role though in all this, and perhaps the most interesting one before the final hug!!!! Or is it war, never no these days, massacre perhaps, who knows?!


    A final word to all the other tribes (P-W is out for all the known reasons), you guys will:


    1 – merge a couple accts in one of the top three tribes;

    2 – die.

    If you’re facing the last option, don’t waste your fu--- time, unite the best/fastest growing of the rim under one tribe (internal/merge all the others before you do that) and die with a smile on your faces nuking the f... out of all the top three, it will fail, as it always does, but at least you’ll fail/die trying.

    Happy gaming to all sides
     
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  6. Lynch

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    Idk failed to mention T.M.

    I think they bring some flavour to the world... plus I heard their recruiter is a beast player
     
  7. -M A R I O-

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    Yea i heard otherwise, considering their leadership has no kind of honor or respect lol.
     
  8. Raavna

    Raavna Still Going Strong

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    First of All Thank you "Gwaihir aka Bluetomahawk" and "=Bit Cloud="

    Good Review,

    infact yesterday i started review to post, and after few lines i realised that Co-player is on account and without account i can't get a clear updated view

    So now i am here today, first of all Forgive me for poor English(lots of Grammar Teacher...lol) and low level technology :)

    and second you like or not but this Cat going to Litter your Garden

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    As We have enough Reviews (2 Updated) i am not going to touch that

    Let's Talk about other Important topic "Prediction" the Thread Related to and Strategy
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    Before we jump to Conclusion it is justify to talk about How ?, When? and Where?


    Diplomacy

    Top three Tribes have no relationship with each other at the moment and everyone judging and waiting the move of other tribe

    though some says that their is Some relationship in between Infamy and BIP

    But here one thing is SURE

    Both tribe wants to finish TEA


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    What are they Doing ?

    TEA - Merging Accounts, Nobling FnB, P-W, Candy and small tribe members and tribeless players, But if we see in a Broadway they are nobling towards RIM/BIP and capturing and finishing the rest Brown DOTS and REBUILDING

    BIP - Merging Accounts, Nobling FnB, CHURCH and some random brown dots, mostly BIP is clearing Lawn

    INFAMY - Same story finishing -LL- and Huitzi and merging

    IN TOTO what i can see is that INFAMY and TEA is rebuilding and preparing for some Big thing, HOLDING large number of Nobleman
    on the other hand BIP, members are nobling Barbs and small villages, lack of preparedness i can say ..


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    World MAP

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    Sorry for really Bad Map
    RED DOTS - TEA
    PURPLE DOTS - BIP
    BLUE DOTS - INFAMY

    Map Clearly speaks a lot if we go into deep in it, TEA Comfortably holding the South region of the MAP and no resistance for them at all in that area.
    Almost half of the map captured by TEA and rest Half is shared in between INFAMY and BIP. Tea Sharing a long boundary with Both tribe which give an opportunity as well as threat, depends upon how they play.

    BIP holding the smallest area of the MAP and rank 2 not much behind TEA, may the reason because they nobled/nobling BARB's. BIP villages are very close to each other compare to other tribe as an average. If they play right hard for attacker to crack the defense as in between close villa moving of Defense is easy.

    Infamy on the other hand facing some resistance but it looks now they broke the major defense and now nobling is bit easy for them, Growth of Nobling is a concern Issue for them, They need to noble faster than other 2 tribes to minimise the Gap.

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    TEA - So far TEA is the only stable and successful tribe , whatever tactics they used everything goes in their favor, No doubt if this continue TEA going to win this world Easily, recruiting more players on account may go against them, cause still........SPY

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    and recruiting more players on account means opening another opportunity for spies , well TEA leadership is quite capable to handle any situation except few ..
    i can't write those few here on forum...haha

    If we talk about leadership in TEA they did good job so far and original account holder's are now settled in tribe in whatever may be the situation, adjust or die or wait for the right time to jump for the unhappy member's of TEA.

    TEA have an really good opportunity to WIN but still i give 30-40% chance to them to win this world.

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    BIP - BIP started with heavy PP users and now they are eating barb like popcorn a good strategy though after all point will decide the winner after 70 days. After 2 HARD merge into BIP, BIP haveo current issue and they using this peace time in rebuilding and nobling.
    BIP leadership did a good job they managed 2Hard Big members to join or both tribe will go dead and now they are strong force.
    BIP is not like 2Hard which mostly survived and grown by recruiting, BIP is solid group and if i speak frankly most possibly they going to WIN this world because they showed better strategies than INFAMY so far,

    70% chances for BIP to WIN this World, though some concern issues are their , like loyalty of the new incomers etc. and some links of their members with TEA.

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    Infamy - Beginning of this world i always said that INFAMY having good players and and a potential tribe, slowly and slowly without much HYPE INFAMY is now rank 3 tribe and after C9 merged with them a kind of competition is minimized for them and looks much strong than before, now they cleaning backyard.which is good, Some may be thinking and worried about their slow nobling, but if i am not wrong they are basically saving Nobleman.

    Only Infamy looks serious on confronting the Same size Tribe others are basically busy elsewhere, If they are doing the same what i am thinking than good or a real bad for them.

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    Before final nailing adjusting Camera :p

    1.If Infamy or BIP alone go against TEA, or When TEA declare on any of them and other would not join this war, than TEA going to win this World, cause i don't see alone BIP or INFAMY can really beat TEA.

    2. If BIP and Infamy Join hand to finish tea than we going to see a good tough war here and war com strategy will become important, if any war com miss than his party lose one cluster. Here i would love to see INFAMY and BIP together to beat TEA, they can settle winner later but if they wants to win this world than they have declare asap, because time is money.

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    Still this much Brown and dots and Barb villages Available any tribe can declare on Barb to win this world :D


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    If need Clarification please post about above map

    Sorry for delayed post but i do hope y'll enjoy reading
     
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  9. Mithrae

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  10. Lynch

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    At least we don't need to piggy back off an academy tribe lel this is why sadly TWs will die
     
  11. Raavna

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    Thanks for your love, Some players mentioned before that this game dying because of low level tactics to win used by tribes, i am still assessing which one is correct.
     
  12. Mithrae

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    In another thread, The Nemesis123 offered an excellent analysis suggesting the opposite: That low level tactics have become a more optimal style of gameplay because of TW's decline. His whole post is well worth the read.

     
  13. I should preface this with the fact that those tactics are not low level. They certainly weren't back in the day and whilst they are far easier to execute now, I wouldn't call it completely free since it is a tool that every tribe has access to.

    The skillsets required to being a great war commander and a great diplomat in fact overlap more than people think. In particular, the ability to read the world and understand macro play is important for any top leader no matter what game you are playing. To a lesser degree, charisma is important for both, though sheer competence can often work in place of charisma when it comes to war commanders.

    Traditionally, it was very difficult to be a top level diplomatic leader without similar military might due the size of worlds. It was pretty easy to overplay your hand as a diplomat, very tempting to do one merge or dodgy dealing too much in order to give the tribe a superficially stronger position. Similarly, diplomatic leaders had trouble with certain tribes that you simply could not destroy diplomatically very easily. They wouldn't get surprised by gangbangs set up covertly, you couldn't recruit or get spies of any value in there. That's why coduking is so popular, because diplomats on their own generally struggled unless they were extremely good.

    Of course now, a lot of these problems have disappeared and so being a diplomatic leader is better than being a war commander (assuming the leaders are of the same skill), but just because you play the diplomatic game does not guarantee you the win easily. There is more than one person playing the game.

    It is not my personal preference for a meta since I am pretty incompetent at certain aspects of diplomacy and runs generally counter to my own style, but it is certainly not low level. The best diplomats in the game are amongst the best leaders in the game without a doubt.
     
  14. Apathetic h0llygh0st

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    Nicely said DA o0
    I feel like you somewhat described my struggles I had in the long gone past worlds and explained why I have an easier time now, yet failed in 77 because I was up against Krieger, who would be one of those not easily destroyed diplomatically ^^
     
  15. ITz.TD

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    Can't beat em, join em. So you decided to hug it out the next world lol?
     
  16. TheHans

    TheHans Master Commander 2016

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    Didn't you hug and still lose (Blue, Sass, Nati?) Ah you quit before that happened right?
     
  17. ITz.TD

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    ofc<3
     
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  18. Michael Corleone.

    Michael Corleone. Part of the Furniture

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    Well regarding W83 and Golden hugging or whatever, it is what it is. They won and its healthy to move on from that.

    But TD, it was a great world, according to yourself, even with the hugging.

     
  19. ITz.TD

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    Have I ever denied that it wasn't enjoyable? I'm not stuck on that either, though its obvious that you've moved on from it since you've joined the hugging now.:oops:
     
  20. Michael Corleone.

    Michael Corleone. Part of the Furniture

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    Oh my I have made friends with people that were my enemies on a past world

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