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r2d3

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you wouldn't have been able to come home
Home is yammie :)


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Side 1:
Players: r2d3
Side 2:
Tribes: BH, BH.

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 3
Side 2: 1
Difference: 2



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 29,313
Side 2: 9,563
Difference: 19,750



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nom nom nom BH :)
 
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r2d3

Contributing Poster
RAM will eat me alive as i'm everywhere..
Yoy can allways flee to .... hmmm... K13.

Ask echao for details (oh and do get him on board in RAM - I promise I will not add him to your stats anymore :lol:) Of course you will have to loose 7 million points to do that, but ... hey, you will have 700 nobles available to eat barbs ;)
 

noobaxes

Guest
Noobaxes, like I said about altering stats :) However if you want to track the progress of Phoenix eating D2 then please feel free to add D2. However, Phoenix nobling D2 doesn't affect the progress/growth/demise of RAM. If you want to track the progress of RAM, D2 are not relevant.

RAM recruited a few players from D2, I acknowledge that. With those players out in distant lands and Phoenix surrounding them, Phoenix ate them and racked up some caps, nobody is disputing that. But what seems to have been neglected is that during this time RAM appears to have encroached by a whole continent East to West. K75 and K85 have both been taken from Phoenix and you have to give props to RAM leadership for that. The only place Phoenix seem to have held on the main front is K65, which I believe they had a good op on Zac to thank for that.

You may criticise RAM's current leadership for their diplomacy and with the tribe fighting pretty anyone worth fighting in W30 I tend to agree. However, when it comes to leadership during the actual wars, RAM's current leaders seem to have performed admirably despite the odds being stacked against them. Time will tell what happens next!
I would have thought that you wouldn't take the same path of "I don't who these D2 guys are" as RAM are doing. I'm sure that you still remember the past from before you went for a long gardening session.

I would have tought that you would at least be honest about the plans that were in place back then, before Phoenx jumped the gun on RAM. Anyway, seems like RAM loves denial of reality and that you are willingly forgetting the past as well.

I'm sure you have no clue of how well leadership is going since your gardening time made you miss a lot of things, a lot of things. I can't really see how RAM can be considered as "doing well" since they are getting beaten on every front when both BH and Phoenx are not really concentrating on RAM in the first place.

They are still just playing around with you kids. :icon_wink:


I actually found a map that is quite interesting. We can clearly see where Jonboy is and where Archon account was... We can alse see where D2 was since it was put as RAM territory back then.


C.Shipley: when i say war, thats ram drift d2 rome2 loen.
best of luck
 
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smurks

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where is THE? that map isnt even plausable because THE was recently kicked of teh main map about what 2 months ago i forgot sometime in dec i think. idr anyway i dont ever remember seeing this map and i look at the maps everyday to see small advances and other crap.
 

smurks

Guest
yeah you made it i remember that now. see as i said alteration of a real normal map
 

calarasi.

Guest
no i wanted to see ORI better :)
hate had nothing to do with missing THE as i made 1 without BH and no RAM also :)
and a map with a tribe called Toilet :icon_redface:

map was made when Tjoy disbanded BD at time or arround
 
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cshipley

Guest
Noobaxes,

I don't deny D2 are on the same side of the war against Phoenix, that wasn't my argument at all. My point is that they are not the same tribe or even in the same family (like RAM/DRIFT or BH/BH.). Therefore Phoenix capping D2 although helping to weaken one of Ram's allies, doesn't directly impact the rate of Ram growing or shrinking. I don't play this world anymore, I have no agenda or political reasoning behind my forum posts other than to observe how things have progressed.

Phoenix have eaten a lot of D2 players, but RAM has eaten a lot of Phoenix villages in the K85 and K75 area. So despite Phoenix eating D2, it hasn't affected RAM because they are still at an all time high in terms of points and villages.

The maps are nice but I certainly never invited D2 to join the Ram Family, if KarmaX did since my leaving then I apologise but I don't believe this to be the case.

As for RAM doing well in the war, I certainly wouldn't say they are losing to Phoenix at all from a neutral viewpoint. BH I accept are doing well and are leading. However I heard 6 months ago that RAM would be dead within 3-6 months but they haven't budged - hence my view they are doing better than expected.

For the interests of those out of the loop (me) - have LoEN done anything in the last 6months?
 

noobaxes

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Those predicting it to end that quick are a bit overexcited. It will take time to eat it all.

If D2 was part of the war, they must be included in the stats (stats really don't matter), but it's still takes nukes and nobles that could have been used against RAM instead. They were still used on enemies so they are part of the big picture as BH is also on another front.

When you can't barely beat Phoenx on your own, why do you go out trying to add more enemies? It's the question that should have been asked at some point... Why did this mess happen? Why did RAM go from the best position in the world to the worse? Why oh why? So many unanswered questions.

We got all the time in the world to see Phoenx victorious against RAM. There is simply no rush.
 

r2d3

Contributing Poster
For the interests of those out of the loop (me)
Soooooo, you are not playing anymore. Well, okay, I buy that...
I will inform you then, that the pilot on your account is doing well enough, taking 10-12 barbarians/inactives per day. Legacy ? :lol:

have LoEN done anything in the last 6months?
growing as allways ...
 

Giacmo

Guest
Since I dont play W30 I'm a neutral person 9though i admire phoenx as the best)

RAM are using a common strategy in TW diplomacy and that is Meat shields, it's a fairly effective and used on many other occasions and worlds and you can never criticize RAM for using it,

LEGION meat shields against BH and taking most of the attacks and ops

D2 meat shields against Phoenx taking alot of Nukes and attacks and coordinating.

So technically RAM are using the idea of "Victory at all costs" though not including cheating as far as i know if any other tribe uses that strategy I wouldn't criticize them nor would I criticize RAM.
 

Tommy Gummy

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Since I dont play W30 I'm a neutral person 9though i admire phoenx as the best)

RAM are using a common strategy in TW diplomacy and that is Meat shields, it's a fairly effective and used on many other occasions and worlds and you can never criticize RAM for using it,

LEGION meat shields against BH and taking most of the attacks and ops

D2 meat shields against Phoenx taking alot of Nukes and attacks and coordinating.

So technically RAM are using the idea of "Victory at all costs" though not including cheating as far as i know if any other tribe uses that strategy I wouldn't criticize them nor would I criticize RAM.
lol, using nukes on D2? man, I had an account sit on D2 and this one guy asked me why I was fighthing them when I asked for D. He told me that he just gave them 30 villages and he stopped attacking them, disbalance was a spy in D2 and he fed phoenx all of K84. Then phoenx literally tried to rim him for some reason, and the guy set them as sitter after he knew he was going to lose because both phoenx and RAM went after him. So, please D2 is not even fighting phoenx, they are fighting LOEN and letting phoenx noble them out... I don't know where you are getting your BS from, but it's a good source....

LEGION, you can ask their duke it was their choice to fight. They are doing a great job at this war IMHO. How do you even know how many OPs they get from BH btw?
 

noobaxes

Guest
LEGION, you can ask their duke it was their choice to fight. They are doing a great job at this war IMHO. How do you even know how many OPs they get from BH btw?
Side 1:
Tribes: BH, BH.
Side 2:
Tribes: LEGI0N

Timeframe: Last 3 months

Total conquers:

Side 1: 8,483
Side 2: 1,962
Difference: 6,521



Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 817
Side 2: 87
Difference: 730



Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 78,232,385
Side 2: 13,457,274
Difference: 64,775,111



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 7,562,098
Side 2: 763,995
Difference: 6,798,103

I call this a massacre or suicide in this case. I will always have a hard time understanding how you can get onboard with people that ridiculed you publicly, but I guess it's one of those things I'll never understand.
 
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MR.MR

Contributing Poster
lol, using nukes on D2? man, I had an account sit on D2 and this one guy asked me why I was fighthing them when I asked for D. He told me that he just gave them 30 villages and he stopped attacking them, disbalance was a spy in D2 and he fed phoenx all of K84. Then phoenx literally tried to rim him for some reason, and the guy set them as sitter after he knew he was going to lose because both phoenx and RAM went after him. So, please D2 is not even fighting phoenx, they are fighting LOEN and letting phoenx noble them out... I don't know where you are getting your BS from, but it's a good source....
You need to re-evaluate your sources.


LEGION, you can ask their duke it was their choice to fight. They are doing a great job at this war IMHO. How do you even know how many OPs they get from BH btw?
If you call losing 817-87, or being down 730 villages, "doing a great job"... I don't think much more needs to be said?
 

Giacmo

Guest
lol, using nukes on D2? man, I had an account sit on D2 and this one guy asked me why I was fighthing them when I asked for D. He told me that he just gave them 30 villages and he stopped attacking them, disbalance was a spy in D2 and he fed phoenx all of K84. Then phoenx literally tried to rim him for some reason, and the guy set them as sitter after he knew he was going to lose because both phoenx and RAM went after him. So, please D2 is not even fighting phoenx, they are fighting LOEN and letting phoenx noble them out... I don't know where you are getting your BS from, but it's a good source....

LEGION, you can ask their duke it was their choice to fight. They are doing a great job at this war IMHO. How do you even know how many OPs they get from BH btw?

Okay actually attacking me and flaming for no reason what do you have against me lol


okay you made yourself look extremely bad by trying to flame me and by actually saying LEGION are doing great against BH

Phoenx

[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: Phoenx
Side 2:
Tribes: D2

Timeframe: Last 3 months

Total conquers:

Side 1: 1,910
Side 2: 1,074
Difference: 836



Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 487
Side 2: 38
Difference: 449



Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 17,761,988
Side 2: 8,764,550
Difference: 8,997,438



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 4,575,431
Side 2: 343,671
Difference: 4,231,760



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Loen

[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: LoEN
Side 2:
Tribes: D2

Timeframe: Last 3 months

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 404
Side 2: 98
Difference: 306



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 3,551,891
Side 2: 935,860
Difference: 2,616,031



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So with all my respect to loen they're just kicking a dead horse down Phoenx been fighting D2 since their declaration long before loen even cleared their Ks and got 100% dominance in most though correct me if I'm wrong that phoenx was fighting D2 before LoEN,

[spoil]
Side 1:
Tribes: LoEN
Side 2:
Tribes: D2

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers:

Side 1: 23,987
Side 2: 8,610
Difference: 15,377



Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 1,267
Side 2: 253
Difference: 1,014



Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 175,815,377
Side 2: 59,623,556
Difference: 116,191,821



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 11,139,979
Side 2: 2,419,326
Difference: 8,720,653



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[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: Phoenx
Side 2:
Tribes: D2

Timeframe: 09/07/2010 05:07:00 to 11/04/2011 08:17:35

Total conquers:

Side 1: 7,868
Side 2: 4,001
Difference: 3,867



Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 1,201
Side 2: 142
Difference: 1,059



Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 72,179,991
Side 2: 30,570,324
Difference: 41,609,667



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 11,337,228
Side 2: 1,297,046
Difference: 10,040,182



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Okay so phoenx is doing better than LoEN but not that better but hey when phoenx declaired it declared on 5 tribes 2 of which dont even exist anymore and D2 has already lost 2 full ks to Phoenx. while LoEN has did some damage to D2 but not as Phoenx.

So you please get your info right.
 

r2d3

Contributing Poster
what do you have against me lol
Hmmmm. Giacmo you got extra worried about flaming, for an outsider. Sure you are not playing? :lol:
It is the pnp you know. Not a bank. Flaming is expected ...
 

Giacmo

Guest
Hmmmm. Giacmo you got extra worried about flaming, for an outsider. Sure you are not playing? :lol:
It is the pnp you know. Not a bank. Flaming is expected ...
lol yes i did well its not everyday someone random comes and tells me what I'm saying is BS

and dont worry if i ever play W30 again it'll be with you r2 :icon_wink: