Strife's Defense Troop Guide (my memento)

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If you DONT want to read all the paragraphs, then go the bottom paragraph and match up the Builds I say are the best by then scrolling up and seeing the troop numbers and build time. Then just read the other stuff if you don't understand something

Here's a list of Slow Defense Builds that I've compared to show which ones should be used and which ones shouldn't (I half-tested a few other one's and tossed them aside becuz they sucked that much); this is more or less the outcome of over a year's worth of testing out Nukes/Defs and compiling it all into words and numbers that everyone can understand Each takes almost a month to build (give or take 4 days) but holds more defense power than faster builds; obviously not the ever day every where Defense to build lol But if your core has the time and security to build them, then why not build a couple of these bad boys

The Nukes and Defenses used below are both based on a 21K troop count. The Defense Build Time's are based on a lv 25 Barracks (didn't bother doing build times for nukes here, that's for another section later...). Morale is 100% and luck is 0% The Test Nukes used represent a good variety of Axes, LC, and MA typically used by many. The number of rams may not be as high or low as that which some of you build, but it has little to no actual effect on the actual performance of the Defense builds themselves as they compare to one another (plus was easier to calculate for me; as was the 21K farm space for both Defense and Offense).

The Actual Results are how each Defense performed against each of the 7 Test Nukes. It shows Troops Lost vs each Test Nuke, and the Lv the Wall was left at.

The Average Resutls are listed as results against the first 5 Test Nukes listed, then the first 6 Test Nukes listed, and all 7 Test Nukes listed. The reason for this is becuz it is less common to face HIGH Axe nukes and HIGH MA nukes. But they are there becuz they are plausible, and it is important to know how well rounded each build is. Within the first 5 Test Nukes lies a nuke with 1K MA, so the Average of the first 5 Test Nukes gives you a good idea of how the Defense Build will perform against regular nukes with MA, then the average of the first 6 Test Nukes will show if facing a HIGH Axe nuke will have a big impact on the Defense Build or not (in most cases it doesn't, if not in all), then the average of all 7 Test Nukes will tell you just how much of an impact a HIGH MA nuke will have on that particular Defense Build.

EDIT: I am NOT suggesting each and every Defense here be used, most are mainly for comparison reasons. The Builds I recommend using are discussed below, and if you're a number person you can see for yourself by looking at the different Results. Also, I believe the build times may be off by a few hours and I won't be adjusting them at this point (all of them are off by a few so it sort of averages out)


Slow Def #1
10K swords
11K archers
Build Time: 31 days, 8.7 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.400.000 wood, 630.000 clay, 1.360.000 iron
Swords = 500K gen, 150K cav, 400K arch
Archers = 550K gen, 440K cav, 55K arch
Total = 1050K gen, 590K cav, 455K arch = 2,095K TOTAL Def

Slow Def #2
9K swords
12K archers
Build Time: 31 days, 15.1 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.470.000 wood, 630.000 clay, 1.350.000 iron
Swords = 450K gen, 135K cav, 360K arch
Archers = 600K gen, 480K cav, 60K arch
Total = 1050K gen, 615K cav, 420K arch = 2,085K TOTAL Def

Slow Def #3
3K spears
9K swords
9K archers
Build Time: 29 days, 13.1 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.320.000 wood, 630.000 clay, 1.200.000 iron
Spears = 45K gen, 135K cav, 60K arch
Swords = 450K gen, 135K cav, 360K arch
Archers = 450K gen, 360K cav, 45K arch
Total = 945K gen, 630K cav, 465K arch = 2,040K TOTAL Def

Slow Def #4
4.2K spears
8.4K swords
8.4K archers
Build Time: 28 days, 21 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.340.000 wood, 630.000 clay, 1.140.000 iron
Spears = 63K gen, 189K cav, 84K arch
Swords = 420K gen, 126K cav, 336K arch
Archers = 420K gen, 336K cav, 42K arch
Total = 903K gen, 651K cav, 462K arch = 2,016K TOTAL Def

Slow Def #5
4K spears
8K swords
9K archers
Build Time: 29 days, 3 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.302.000 wood, 630.000 clay, 1.134.000 iron
Spears = 60K gen, 180K cav, 80K arch
Swords = 400K gen, 120K cav, 320K arch
Archers = 450K gen, 360K cav, 45K arch
Total = 910K gen, 660K cav, 445K arch = 2,015K TOTAL Def

Slow Def #6
8K spears
5K swords
8K archers
Build Time: 27 days, 3 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.350.000 wood, 630.000 clay, 910.000 iron
Spears = 120K gen, 360K cav, 120K arch
Swords = 250K gen, 75K cav, 200K arch
Archers = 400K gen, 320K cav, 40K arch
Total = 770K gen, 755K cav, 360K arch = 1,885K TOTAL Def

Slow Def #7
21K archers
Build Time: 34 days, 1 hr
Resources Needed: 2.100.000 wood, 630.000 clay, 1.260.000 iron
Archers = 1050K gen, 840K cav, 105K arch
Total = 1050K gen, 840K cav, 105K arch = 1,905K TOTAL Def


Test Nukes

Nuke #1
6300 axes, 3300 lc, 300 rams
Nuke #2
6300 axes, 2800 lc, 400 ma, 300 rams
Nuke #3
7500 axes, 2500 lc, 400 ma, 300 rams
Nuke #4
7500 axes, 3000 lc, 300 rams
Nuke #5
6500 axes, 2000 lc, 1000 ma, 300 rams
Nuke #6
11500 axes, 2000 lc, 300 rams
Nuke #7
6300 axes, 2640 ma, 300 rams


Actual Results

Slow Def #1's Results
#1 11.867 W12
#2 11.814 W12
#3 11.453 W13
#4 11.526 W13
#5 11.752 W13
#6 10.347 W13
#7 11.630 W13

Slow Def #2's Results
#1 11.293 W13
#2 11.364 W13
#3 11.056 W13
#4 11.001 W13
#5 11.609 W13
#6 9.991 W14
#7 12.836 W12

Slow Def #3's Results
#1 11.380 W13
#2 11.450 W13
#3 11.254 W13
#4 11.195 W13
#5 11.510 W13
#6 10.549 W13
#7 11.695 W13

Slow Def #4's Results
#1 11.162 W13
#2 11.310 W13
#3 11.177 W13
#4 11.050 W13
#5 11.498 W13
#6 10.658 W13
#7 11.962 W12

Slow Def #5's Results
#1 10.960 W13
#2 11.145 W13
#3 11.020 W13
#4 10.857 W13
#5 11.580 W13
#6 10.490 W13
#7 12.467 W12

Slow Def #6's Results
#1 10.324 W13
#2 10.790 W13
#3 10.957 W13
#4 10.510 W13
#5 11.720 W13
#6 11.135 W13
#7 14.923 W10

Slow Def #7's Results
#1 7.957 W15
#2 12.639 W12
#3 12.617 W12
#4 7.949 W15
#5 21.000 W6
#6 7.911 W15
#7 21.000 W4


Average Results

Slow Def #1's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 11,682.4
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 11,459.8
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 11,484.1

Slow Def #2's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 11,264
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 11,052.3
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 11,307.1

Slow Def #3's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 11,357.8
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 11,223
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 11,290.43

Slow Def #4 Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 11,239.4
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes= 11,142.5
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 11,259.57

Slow Def #5 Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 11,112.4
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes= 11,008.7
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 11,217

Slow Def #6 Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 10,860.2
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes= 10,906
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 11,479.85

Slow Def #7 Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 12,432.4
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes= 11,678.8
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 13,010.4

As you can see, Slow Defense #5 and Slow Defense #6 have the better results out of the 7 Builds, with the first not having THAT much of an impact by a Axe/MA nuke and the latter one taking a much heavier impact by Axe/MA nukes (the best nuke against both is an Axe/MA nuke, but they don't obliterate either build, by far). I'd argue that its not THAT significant of an impact on either the 5th or 6th Defense build, but the 5th Defense Build holds the most versitily and well-roundedness than the 6th Defense Build and for that reason is the best Slow Build around (by rounding troops to the nearest thousand; messing with them to the nearest hundred or lower will just plain drive me insane. I myself will used both for my Slow Builds =]


- Composed and Copyrighted by Strife and Strife Co.

 

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Medium Defense Builds

If you DONT want to read, then go the bottom paragraph and match up the Builds I say are the best by then scrolling up and seeing the troop numbers and build time.

[Quick Note]: The paragraphs before the Builds themselves are essentially the same thing as the one in the Slow Build Thread. It's just the conditions/semantics =] (These Medium Builds each have 1.0K HC for consistency, obviously if you took out 10 HC and put in 60 swords instead it'd be "better" but that's not really the point of this; but if you wish to nitpick at it then be my guest cuz I sure wont, this took long enough -_-)

Here's a list of Medium Defense Builds that I've compared to show which ones should be used and which ones shouldn't; this is more or less the outcome of over a year's worth of testing out Nukes/Defs and compiling it all into words and numbers that everyone can understand Each takes a bit under 3 weeks to build and holds more defense power than faster builds but less than slower builds; good for in the core or just about anywhere (as long as you're not getting heavily hit)

The Nukes and Defenses used below are both based on a 21K troop count. The Defense Build Time's are based on a lv 25 Barracks and lv 20 Stable (didn't bother doing build times for nukes here, that's for another section). Morale is 100% and luck is 0% The Test Nukes used represent a good variety of Axes, LC, and MA typically used by many. The number of rams may not be as high or low as that which some of you build, but it has little to no actual effect on the actual performance of the Defense builds themselves as they compare to one another (plus was easier to calculate for me; as was the 21K farm space for both Defense and Offense).

The averages are listed as results against the first 5 Test Nukes listed, then the first 6 Test Nukes listed, and all 7 Test Nukes listed. The reason for this is becuz it is less common to face HIGH Axe nukes and HIGH MA nukes. But they are there becuz they are plausible, and it is important to know how well rounded each build is. Within the first 5 Test Nukes lies a nuke with 1K MA, so the Average of the first 5 Test Nukes gives you a good idea of how the Defense Build will perform against regular nukes with MA, then the average of the first 6 Test Nukes will show if facing a HIGH Axe nuke will have a big impact on the Defense Build or not (in most cases it doesn't, if not in all), then the average of all 7 Test Nukes will tell you just how much of an impact a HIGH MA nuke will have on that particular Defense Build.

EDIT: I am NOT suggesting each and every Defense here be used, most are mainly for comparison reasons. The Builds I recommend using are discussed below, and if you're a number person you can see for yourself by looking at the different Results. Also, I believe the build times may be off by a few hours, I will try and make them more accurate later on, but they aren't off by more than half a day.


Medium Def #1
4K spears
4K swords
7K archers
1K heavy
Build Time: 19 days, 14 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.220.000 wood. 600.000 clay, 1.340.000 iron
Spears = 60K gen def, 180K cav def, 80K arch def
Swords = 200K gen def, 60K cav def, 160K arch def
Archers = 350K gen def, 280K cav def, 35K arch def
Heavy = 200K gen def, 80K cav def, 180K arch def
Total = 810K gen def, 600K cav def, 455K arch def = 1,865 TOTAL Def

Medium Def #2
5K spears
3K swords
7K archers
1K heavy
Build Time: 20 days, 1 hr
Resources Needed: 1.240.000 wood, 600.000 clay, 1.280.000 iron
Spears = 75K gen def, 225K cav def, 100K arch def
Swords = 150K gen def, 45K cav def, 120K arch def
Archers = 350K gen def, 280K cav def, 35K arch def
Heavy = 200K gen def, 80K cav def, 180K arch def
Total = 775K gen def, 630K cav def, 435K arch def = 1,840 TOTAL Def

Medium Def #3
5K spears
4K swords
6K archers
1K heavy
Build Time: 19 days, 18 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.170.000 wood, 600.000 clay, 1.290.000 iron
Spears = 75K gen def, 225K cav def, 100K arch def
Swords = 200K gen def, 60K cav def, 160K arch def
Archers = 300K gen def, 240K cav def, 30K arch def
Heavy = 200K gen def, 80K cav def, 180K arch def
Total = 775K gen def, 605K cav def, 470 arch def = 1,850 TOTAL Def

Medium Def #4
5K spears
5K swords
5K archers
1K heavy
Build Time: 20 days, 11 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.100.000 wood, 600.000 clay, 1.300.000 iron
Spears = 75K gen def, 225K cav def, 100K arch def
Swords = 250K gen def, 75K cav def, 200K arch def
Archers = 250K gen def, 200K cav def, 25K arch def
Heavy = 200K gen def, 80K cav def, 180K arch def
Total = 775K gen def, 580K cav def, 505K arch def = 1,860 TOTAL Def

Medium Def #5
5K spears
2K swords
8K archers
1K heavy
Build Time: 20 days, 8 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.310.000 wood, 600.000 clay, 1.270.000 iron
Spears = 75K gen def, 225 cav def, 100K arch def
Swords = 100K gen def, 30K cav def, 80K arch def
Archers = 400K gen def, 320K cav def, 40K arch def
Heavy = 200K gen def, 80K cav def, 180K arch def
Total = 775K gen def, 655K cav def, 400K arch def = 1,830 TOTAL Def

Medium Def #6
7K spears
8K archers
1K heavy
Build Time: 19 days, 11 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.350.000 wood, 600.000 clay, 1.150.000 iron
Spears = 105K gen def, 305 cav def, 140K arch def
Archers = 400K gen def, 320K cav def, 40K arch def
Heavy = 200K gen def, 80K cav def, 180K arch def
Total = 705K gen def, 705K cav def, 360K arch def = 1,770 TOTAL Def

Medium Def #7
6K spears
2K swords
7K archers
1K heavy
Build Time: 19 days, 15 hrs
Resources Needed: 880.500 wood, 579.000 clay, 1.137.000 iron
Spears = 90K gen def, 270 cav def, 120K arch def
Swords = 100K gen def, 30K cav def, 80K arch def
Archers = 350K gen def, 280K cav def, 35K arch def
Heavy = 200K gen def, 80K cav def, 180K arch def
Total = 740K gen def, 660K cav def, 415K arch def = 1,815 TOTAL Def

Experimental Medium Def #1
2K spears
2K swords
11K archers
1K heavy
Build Time: 22 days, 10 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.460.000 wood, 600.000 clay, 1.420.000 iron
Spears = 30K gen def, 90 cav def, 40K arch def
Swords = 100K gen def, 30K cav def, 80K arch def
Archers = 550K gen def, 440K cav def, 55K arch def
Heavy = 200K gen def, 80K cav def, 180K arch def
Total = 880K gen def, 640K cav def, 355K arch def = 1,675 TOTAL Def


Test Nukes

Nuke #1
6300 axes, 3300 lc, 300 rams
Nuke #2
6300 axes, 2800 lc, 400 ma, 300 rams
Nuke #3
7500 axes, 2500 lc, 400 ma, 300 rams
Nuke #4
7500 axes, 3000 lc, 300 rams
Nuke #5
6500 axes, 2000 lc, 1000 ma, 300 rams
Nuke #6
11500 axes, 2000 lc, 300 rams
Nuke #7
6300 axes, 2640 ma, 300 rams


Actual Results

Medium Def #1's Results
#1 12.751 W12
#2 12.724 W12
#3 12.601 W12
#4 12.656 W12
#5 12.733 W12
#6 12.305 W12
#7 12.656 W12

Medium Def #2's Results
#1 12.333 W12
#2 12.428 W12
#3 12.411 W12
#4 12.343 W12
#5 12.739 W12
#6 12.345 W12
#7 13.530 W11

Medium Def #3's Results
#1 12.876 W12
#2 12.824 W12
#3 12.785 W12
#4 12.834 W12
#5 12.726 W12
#6 12.681 W12
#7 12.426 W12

Medium Def #4's Results
#1 13.476 W11
#2 13.170 W12
#3 13.083 W12
#4 13.380 W11
#5 12.705 W12
#6 13.056 W12
#7 10.773 W13

Medium Def #5's Results
#1 11.847 W12
#2 12.063 W12
#3 12.095 W12
#4 11.892 W12
#5 12.606 W12
#6 12.037 W12
#7 14.890 W11

Medium Def #6's Results
#1 11.417 W13
#2 11.873 W12
#3 12.102 W12
#4 11.657 W13
#5 12.930 W12
#6 12.478 W12
#7 16.551 W9

Medium Def #7's Results
#1 12.026 W12
#2 12.227 W12
#3 12.312 W12
#4 12.132 W12
#5 12.480 W12
#6 12.740 W12
#7 14.516 W11

Experimental Medium Def #1's Results
#1 11.488 W13
#2 11.774 W12
#3 11.644 W13
#4 11.382 W13
#5 13.299 W12
#6 11.006 W13
#7 15.564 W10

Average Results

Medium Def #1's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 12,693
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 12,628
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 12,632

Medium Def #2's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 12,450.8
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 12,433
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 12,589

Medium Def #3's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 12,809
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 12,787.7
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 12,736

Medium Def #4's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 13,162.8
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 13,145
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 12,806

Medium Def #5's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 12,100.6
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 12,090
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 12,490

Medium Def #6's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 11,995.8
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 12,076.2
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 12,715

Medium Def #7's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 12,235.4
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 12,319.5
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 12,633.3

Experimental Medium Def #1's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 11,917.4
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 11,765.5
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 12,308

Just like with the Slow Builds, the two Defenses that had the best results here are the 5th and 6th ones. And very much like the Slow Builds, the 5th Medium Defense Build is more well-rounded than the 6th one, becuz a Axe/MA nukes has a bigger impact on the 6th Build (No I didn't plan on this lol, learning what works best myself as I do these calculations). One last thing to note, the 6th Build is VERY susceptible to Axe/MA nukes and is only slightly better than the 5th Build against "normal" nukes, so I highly recommend the 5th Medium Defense Build over the 6th Defense Build (unlike with the Slow Build where either the 5th or 6th are pretty much good to use).

Also, the experimental medium def has outstanding results against a majority of these nukes. Unfortunately this last part is new so it hasn't had editing time put in so you'll have to judge for yourself which of these is more ideal for yourself.


- Composed and Copyrighted by Strife and Strife Co.

 

[DeletedUser]

Fast Def

If you DONT want to read, then go the bottom paragraph and match up the Builds I say are the best by then scrolling up and seeing the troop numbers and build time.

[Quick Note]: The paragraphs before the Builds themselves are essentially the same thing as the one in the Slow Build Thread. It's just the conditions/semantics =] (These Fast Builds each have 1.5K HC for consistency, obviously if you took out 10 HC and put in 60 swords instead it'd be "better" but that's not really the point of this; but if you wish to nitpick at it then be my guest cuz I sure wont, this took long enough -_-)

Here's a list of Fast Defense Builds that I've compared to show which ones should be used and which ones shouldn't; this is more or less the outcome of over a year's worth of testing out Nukes/Defs and compiling it all into words and numbers that everyone can understand Each takes a bit under 3 weeks to build and holds more defense power than faster builds but less than slower builds; good for in the core or just about anywhere (as long as you're not getting heavily hit)

The Nukes and Defenses used below are both based on a 21K troop count. The Defense Build Time's are based on a lv 25 Barracks and lv 20 Stable (didn't bother doing build times for nukes here, that's for another section). Morale is 100% and luck is 0% The Test Nukes used represent a good variety of Axes, LC, and MA typically used by many. The number of rams may not be as high or low as that which some of you build, but it has little to no actual effect on the actual performance of the Defense builds themselves as they compare to one another (plus was easier to calculate for me; as was the 21K farm space for both Defense and Offense).

The Actual Results are how each Defense performed against each of the 7 Test Nukes. It shows Troops Lost vs each Test Nuke, and the Lv the Wall was left at.

The averages are listed as results against the first 5 Test Nukes listed, then the first 6 Test Nukes listed, and all 7 Test Nukes listed. The reason for this is becuz it is less common to face HIGH Axe nukes and HIGH MA nukes. But they are there becuz they are plausible, and it is important to know how well rounded each build is. Within the first 5 Test Nukes lies a nuke with 1K MA, so the Average of the first 5 Test Nukes gives you a good idea of how the Defense Build will perform against regular nukes with MA, then the average of the first 6 Test Nukes will show if facing a HIGH Axe nuke will have a big impact on the Defense Build or not (in most cases it doesn't, if not in all), then the average of all 7 Test Nukes will tell you just how much of an impact a HIGH MA nuke will have on that particular Defense Build.

EDIT: I am NOT suggesting each and every Defense here be used, most are mainly for comparison reasons. The Builds I recommend using are discussed below, and if you're a number person you can see for yourself by looking at the different Results. Also, I believe the build times may be off by a few hours.

Fast Build #1
6K spears
6K archers
1.5K HC
Build Time: 15 days, 7 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.200.000 wood, 585.000 clay, 1.320.000 iron
Spears = 90K gen, 270K cav, 120K arch
Archers = 300K gen, 240K cav, 30K arch
Heavy = 300K gen, 120K cav, 240K arch
Total Def = 690K gen, 630K cav, 390K arch

Fast Build #2
6K spears
1K swords
5K archers
1.5K HC
Build Time: 15 days, 30 mins
Resources Needed: 1.130.000 wood, 585.000 clay, 1.330.000 iron
Spears = 90K gen, 270K cav, 120K arch
Swords = 50K gen, 15K cav, 40K arch
Archers = 250K gen, 200K cav, 25K arch
Heavy = 300K gen, 120K cav, 240K arch
Total Def = 690K gen, 605K cav, 425K arch

Fast Build #3
6K spears
2K swords
4K archers
1.5K HC
Build Time: 14 days, 18 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.060.000 wood, 585.000 clay, 1.340.000 iron
Spears = 90K gen, 270K cav, 120K arch
Swords = 100K gen, 30K cav, 80K arch
Archers = 200K gen, 160K cav, 20K arch
Heavy = 300K gen, 120K cav, 240K arch
Total Def = 690K gen, 580K cav, 460K arch

Fast Build #4
7K spears
1K swords
4K archers
1.5K HC
Build Time: 14 days, 8 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.080.000 wood, 585.000 clay, 1.280.000 iron
Spears = 105K gen, 315K cav, 140K arch
Swords = 50K gen, 15K cav, 40K arch
Archers = 200K gen, 160K cav, 20K arch
Heavy = 300K gen, 120K cav, 240K arch
Total Def = 665K gen, 610K cav, 440K arch

Fast Build #5
7K spears
5K archers
1.5K HC
Build Time: 14 days, 14 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.150.000 wood, 585.000 clay, 1.270.000 iron
Spears = 105K gen, 315K cav, 140K arch
Archers = 250K gen, 200K cav, 25K arch
Heavy = 300K gen, 120K cav, 240K arch
Total Def = 655K gen, 635K cav, 405K arch

Fast Build #6
8K spears
4K archers
1.5K HC
Build Time: 13 days, 22 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.100.000 wood, 585.000 clay, 1.220.000 iron
Spears = 120K gen, 360K cav, 160K arch
Archers = 200K gen, 160K cav, 20K arch
Heavy = 300K gen, 120K cav, 240K arch
Total Def = 620K gen, 640K cav, 420K arch

Fast Build #7
3K spears
4K swords
5K archers
1.5K HC
Build Time: 16 days, 7 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.070.000 wood, 585.000 clay, 1.510.000 iron
Spears = 90K gen, 270K cav, 120K arch
Swords = 50K gen, 15K cav, 40K arch
Archers = 250K gen, 200K cav, 25K arch
Heavy = 300K gen, 120K cav, 240K arch
Total Def = 690K gen, 605K cav, 425K arch

Fast Build #8
9K spears
3K archers
1.5K HC
Build Time: 13 days, 5 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.050.000 wood, 585.000 clay, 1.170.000 iron
Spears = 135K gen, 405K cav, 180K arch
Archers = 150K gen, 120K cav, 15K arch
Heavy = 300K gen, 120K cav, 240K arch
Total Def = 585K gen, 645K cav, 435K arch

Experimental Fast Build #1
2K spears
10K archers
1.5K HC
Build Time: 18 days, 2 hrs
Resources Needed: 1.400.000 wood, 585.000 clay, 1.520.000 iron
Spears = 30K gen, 90K cav, 40K arch
Archers = 500K gen, 400K cav, 50K arch
Heavy = 300K gen, 120K cav, 240K arch
Total Def = 830K gen, 610K cav, 330K arch


Test Nukes

Nuke #1
6300 axes, 3300 lc, 300 rams
Nuke #2
6300 axes, 2800 lc, 400 ma, 300 rams
Nuke #3
7500 axes, 2500 lc, 400 ma, 300 rams
Nuke #4
7500 axes, 3000 lc, 300 rams
Nuke #5
6500 axes, 2000 lc, 1000 ma, 300 rams
Nuke #6
11500 axes, 2000 lc, 300 rams
Nuke #7
6300 axes, 2640 ma, 300 rams


Actual Results

Fast Def #1's Results
#1 13.046 W12
#2 13.146 W12
#3 13.270 W12
#4 13.188 W12
#5 13.498 W11
#6 13.668 W11
#7 14.728 W11

Fast Def #2's Results
#1 13.582 W11
#2 13.565 W11
#3 13.635 W11
#4 13.681 W11
#5 13.611 W11
#6 14.004 W11
#7 13.522 W11

Fast Def #3's Results
#1 14.182 W11
#2 13.932 W11
#3 13.984 W11
#4 14.227 W11
#5 13.566 W11
#6 14.378 W11
#7 12.526 W12

Fast Def #4's Results
#1 13.831 W11
#2 13.779 W11
#3 13.960 W11
#4 14.012 W11
#5 13.725 W11
#6 14.613 W11
#7 13.398 W11

Fast Def #5's Results
#1 13.301 W12
#2 13.396 W11
#3 13.597 W11
#4 13.526 W11
#5 13.737 W11
#6 14.280 W11
#7 14.506 W11

Fast Def #6's Results
#1 13.611 W11
#2 13.706 W11
#3 13.996 W11
#4 13.929 W11
#5 14.013 W11
#6 14.991 W10
#7 14.380 W11

Fast Def #7's Results
#1 15.235 W10
#2 14.589 W11
#3 14.309 W11
#4 14.955 W10
#5 13.593 W11
#6 13.975 W11
#7 11.141 W11

Fast Def #8's Results
#1 13.986 W11
#2 14.070 W11
#3 14.472 W11
#4 14.405 W11
#5 14.241 W11
#6 15.817 W10
#7 14.351 W11

Experimental Fast Def #1's Results
#1 12.401 W12
#2 12.570 W12
#3 12.466 W12
#4 12.294 W12
#5 13.130 W12
#6 11.928 W12
#7 15.636 W10


Average Results

Fast Def #1's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 13,229.6
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 13,302.7
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 13,506.3

Fast Def #2's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 13,614.8
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 13,679.7
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 13,657.1

Fast Def #3's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 13,978.2
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 14,044.8
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 13,827.9

Fast Def #4's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 13,861.4
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 13,986.7
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 13,902.6

Fast Def #5's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 13,511.4
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 13,639.5
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 13,763.3

Fast Def #6's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 13,851
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 14,041
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 14,089.4

Fast Def #7's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 14,536.2
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 14,442.7
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 13,971

Fast Def #8's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 14,234.8
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 14,498.5
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 14,477.4

Experimental Fast Def #1's Average Results
Average Losses vs First 5 Nukes = 12.568.2
Average Losses vs First 6 Nukes = 12,461.5
Average Losses vs All 7 Nukes = 12,915

Under normal circumstances I would say that Fast Def Build #1 is the best in the lot, but after some tinkering here and there I have to say that Experimental Fast Def #1 is the best Fast Def Build. Sure its more susceptible to Axe/MA nukes, but I think its performance against every other kind of nuke lets it pull its weight, but that is up to the individual. So basically, the first Fast Def or the Experimental one I put are the best Fast Defs (that utilize exactly 1.5K HC)


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Fastest Def ingame

One last thing before I forget, before leaving W15 I recall proposing that I found the fastest Sp/HC ratio. So someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but this was my findings. Keep in mind this is solely based on time, and not on effectiveness (eventho it's actually not very different in effectiveness with other Sp/HC ratio builds)


9210 spears
1965 heavy
Spear Build Time: 8 days, 12 hrs, 40 mins
HC Build Time: 8 days, 12 hrs, 41 mins
1:4.68 ratio

This is based on a 21K farm space with lv 25 Barracks and lv 20 stable. Meaning if your farm space is LESS than 21K, then the build time will be less as well (so if your fast build builds in a week, so will this one becuz of your farm space).


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I love you,no homo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bout time you put it up somewhere again :lol:
Freaking talk to me on skype man we still have the old chat. :icon_razz:

 

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Haha, I'll try and get on more. Its easier to just message me on a one-on-one chat and tell me to get into the chat, cuz I don't pay attention to it too much (laggy late messages and all).

And for anyone who has any questions about my guides (preferably none requiring the use of a simulator becuz I'm not in my account and I don't have prem), feel free to contact me on Skype, ID is strife97 just like here and ingame (I'm being sat ingame tho)

 

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You didn't happen to build an offence guide, did you, because this one is awesome. =)

 

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You didn't happen to build an offence guide, did you, because this one is awesome. =)

Not in such details, just a bit more abstract... I could tell you about some of my findings, would be easier if you posted or mailed me an example of what you think a "good" nuke looks like and I can go over its highlights and flaws. One thing i DIDNT do excessive looking into was the use of Cats, so most of my findings neglect them and prefer the use of Rams. I myself rarely used cats as an "ideal" nuke, they were just for bashing and crushing buildings, but when it came down to cracking through a wall on a stacked to heavily stacked village Rams was always the way to go for me.

If I had access to the simulator I could "prove" some of my nuke findings, but since I don't anything I'd say would have to be backed up by my previous findings lol =]

If you asked me for a Quick and Simple nuke that I myself used often and received many compliments for from players across worlds and over the span of 2 years (and who looked past the high number of rams and actually saw its good points), then I would go with this nuke:

5900 Axes
3200 LC
460 Rams

As always the farm space my troop numbers work with is a 21K farm space (which my account still has, which im sure my sitter will enjoy more than 20K or lower). I'm not sure on the build time but I know that with a lv 25 barracks, lv 20 stable and lv 5 workshop it's close to having all 3 buildings pumping out troops at almost the same level (i think the rams get out sooner, but going I remember not liking 480 rams as much as 460 so I stuck with that even if it meant using up an hour more on recruiting).

The only person who MIGHT be recognized somewhat well by name who liked my nuke from W15 was Cypher Rahl. I know that back when he was on W28 (think that was the right world), he used my nuke exclusively and often commented on how it worked wonders for his ODA =]

And oh whenever I ran into heavy archer builds I'd switch out 500 LC for 400 MA. The main time I did that was to balance out my wood and iron tho, but it was a still nice nuke to use when wanting to launch asap and yield good results.