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[DeletedUser]

You know, "axlhol" sounds like a compliment As for the votes for worst player, why is that "stupid"?

• You're 75-6 down in war conquers after a mere month of fighting.
• This is easily the worst record among all current Plight/SF/C² players for that period.

Statwise, there's no comparison. Calling them stupid when they are basing their opinion on wartime statistics is unfair...more unfair than you getting votes.

not exactly a runaway there.
you have one that is not too far behind

Side 1:
Tribes: Plight
Players:

Side 2:
Tribes:
Players: redsox1621

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 67
Side 2: 5
Difference: 62

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 534,179
Side 2: 42,944
Difference: 491,235

while alex still does have more losses its not the runaway that you implied above anyone else.

Side 1:
Tribes: C²
Players:

Side 2:
Tribes:
Players: steveuk82

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 73
Side 2: 6
Difference: 67

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 713,014
Side 2: 59,046
Difference: 653,968

plus he has more conquers than your guy.

 

[DeletedUser]

Also, i was saying it was stupid because i dont own an account called "alexhol" anymore

 

[DeletedUser]

[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes:
Players: redsox1621

Side 2:
Tribes:
Players: Pedro Clara

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 25
Side 2: 9
Difference: 16

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 253,267
Side 2: 87,717
Difference: 165,550

[/spoil]

Nice try DILLON :icon_wink:.

 

[MichielK]

while alex still does have more losses its not the runaway that you implied above anyone else.

Orel beat me to fixing your stats. You may not like Pedro being included, but you and some of your tribemates are the only ones making that argument (and I doubt any of you would vote for Alex anyway). In addition, Redsox lacks the visibility and reputation that Alex does have.

 

[DeletedUser78416]

Also, i was saying it was stupid because i dont own an account called "alexhol" anymore

You can take the girl out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the girl.

You'll always be our sweet little alexhol! :icon_biggrin:

 

[DeletedUser]

It would be more intersting to see how much ODD alex and redsox has gained per village lost... like the latest data Axl has thrown up on his thread.

I think u will then see that alex has destroyed loads more nukes compared to redsox for every village hes lost. Point being that C² have thrown alot at alex since day one of the war, due to his location, and im just guessing but it looks to me like redsox just cant defend v well and seems to be losing villages cos hes not paying attention lol

 

[DeletedUser]

248,642 ODD per village for alex.
1,042,054 ODD per village for redsox.

^That's going off of total ODD scores in relation to villages lost. I worked with village differences, so if they nobled some back, I subtracted that from the villages they lost.

Going off what's since the 8th, which is the last day twstats has recorded ODD and such (insofar as I know):

467,716 ODD per village for redsox.
543,954 ODD per village for alexhol.

Loads more nukes? Hardly. That's not a very large difference in nuke amount, I'd say, and we have a larger chunk of redsox's losses counted since the 8th than alexhol's. For example, alexhol lost 15 of his 67 total since the 8th. That's around halfway between 1/4th and 1/3rd of his losses since the war began. redsox, on the other hand, lost 22 in that same time-frame, which is around half of his total losses. All in all, I think your hypothesis was incorrect, as shown above.

 

[DeletedUser]

248,642 ODD per village for alex.
1,042,054 ODD per village for redsox.

^That's going off of total ODD scores in relation to villages lost. I worked with village differences, so if they nobled some back, I subtracted that from the villages they lost.

Considering redsox used to be in Ad Inf and then setup his own tribe, then went tribeless, all still fighting Bang! (and pretty much everyone else in W16), here he lost just under 1mill points by the time he got into BANG! and then onto C². Id put my neck out and guess he gained the vast majority of the ODD u show above there, and not in the plight war

Thats why your 2nd measurement from the 8th is probably more accurate and this one should be totally discounted.

 

[DeletedUser]

Even if it is, it doesn't show full ODD per village, considering that if we used the second statistic, then said that half of redsox's villages were lost during that time, and 1/3rd of alexhol's, did some math work...it'd come out to something entirely different, more likely to be in redsox's favor...which you seem to have ignored in your haste to call yourself right. If we assumed ODD gains were constant through the start of the war, you'd see who really gained more ODD.

Oh, and you said "Loads more nukes"...which isn't true, as I've proven.

And I have yet to see anyone argue MichielK's point about being more vocal and well-known in the case of alexhol vs. redsox :icon_neutral:.

 

[DeletedUser]

which you seem to have ignored in your haste to call yourself right.

i had said this in my original post >>>

and im just guessing but it looks to me like...

U6 u really need to read what and how people write their posts before accusing.... i admitted in my first post that i might be wrong but i thought it would make interesting discussion... so dont try to make out this is some inter-tribe argument, i was simply asking someone to work out the ODD per village, which u kindly did btw...

So less of the personal accusations and more discussion pls...

 

[DeletedUser54400]

redsox

date 2010-06-26 00:00
rank 82
points 3.634.927
villages 453
ODA 13.887.997
ODD 32.829.571
OD 46.717.568

date 2010-07-28 08:00
rank 100
points 3.166.310
villages 387
ODA 17.716.295
ODD 48.162.061
OD 65.878.356

ODD gain: 48.162.061 - 32.829.571 = 15.332.490



Side 1:
Tribes:
Players: redsox1621

Side 2:
Tribes: Plight
Players:

Timeframe: 26/06/2010 00:00:00 to 28/07/2010 14:03:32
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 5
Side 2: 68
Difference: 63

68 losses makes for 225.477 ODD per loss

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Steveuk82

date 2010-06-26 00:00
rank 54
points 4.445.719
villages 444
ODA 14.496.388
ODD 2.473.660
OD 16.970.048

date 2010-07-28 08:00
rank 83
points 3.805.372
villages 380
ODA 19.170.495
ODD 16.659.015
OD 35.829.510

ODD gain: 16.659.015 - 2.473.660 = 14.185.355


Side 1:
Tribes:
Players: steveuk82

Side 2:
Tribes: C²
Players:

Timeframe: 26/06/2010 00:00:00 to 28/07/2010 14:03:32
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 7
Side 2: 77
Difference: 70

77 losses makes for 184.225 ODD per loss


Redsox gained approx. 22.4% more ODD per loss then Steve has so far

 

[DeletedUser]

No need to argue about this guys. We are not saying redsox is amazing or anything, we are just saying that alexhol is on the same level as redsox. At the end of the day ODD/village lost is a nice stat but it doesn't tell you much. A lost village is a lost village.

However I am glad that everyone has shown that Alexhol is losing villages left and right despite what he has been saying. Remember, the tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut.

 

[DeletedUser78416]

However I am glad that everyone has shown that Alexhol is losing villages left and right despite what he has been saying. Remember, the tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut.

Actually, the height of the grass matters not. The blades on your mower will undoubtedly reach below the surface level of any single blade of grass or weed.

:icon_biggrin:

Ooooh, sorry...I haven't spammed in a while and needed my fix!

 

[DeletedUser]

lol, but u6, doesnt that show that redsox is constantly losing villages, but my slump has finished? ive lost most of my stranded villages and im not losing many now, where as were still killing him.

 

[MichielK]

Redsox gained approx. 22.4% more ODD per loss then Steve has so far

Thank you for taking the time to make the comparison, that's excellent data

Btw, since apparently my post started this whole discussion, I want to reiterate my original point:

• I do not think Alex is the worst player in W16.
• I do think Alex' stats make him look like the worst player in W16.

Based on those two points, I think that those who voted for Alex are probably wrong, but they are certainly not "stupid". There are far more ridiculous votes in that list of answers.

 

[DeletedUser]

Thank you for taking the time to make the comparison, that's excellent data

Btw, since apparently my post started this whole discussion, I want to reiterate my original point:

• I do not think Alex is the worst player in W16.
• I do think Alex' stats make him look like the worst player in W16.

Based on those two points, I think that those who voted for Alex are probably wrong, but they are certainly not "stupid". There are far more ridiculous votes in that list of answers.

I put down no comment for this question I think. I don't see how anyone can vote for the worst player on W16 when it's surely got to be one of the many players with less than 20 villages who have not been internalled, most of whom no one actually knows at all and therefore cannot judge on it. If the question were 'Who do you think is the worst player on W16 out of the top 6 tribes?' it may be easier to judge.

 

[MichielK]

I put down no comment for this question I think. I don't see how anyone can vote for the worst player on W16 when it's surely got to be one of the many players with less than 20 villages who have not been internalled, most of whom no one actually knows at all and therefore cannot judge on it. If the question were 'Who do you think is the worst player on W16 out of the top 6 tribes?' it may be easier to judge.

Agreed. And for the record, I don't think Alex is the worst player within the top tribes either. For starters, he's more active on offense than the majority of his tribemates...I think we can all agree that the value of a player starts with their motivation to actually do something. I have run into various players already who, when put in Alex' situation, would have simply ran off already (and quite a few who have done exactly that).

He may have lost a ton of villages, but at least he's still here, and still trying.

 

[DeletedUser]

[spoil]

redsox

date 2010-06-26 00:00
rank 82
points 3.634.927
villages 453
ODA 13.887.997
ODD 32.829.571
OD 46.717.568

date 2010-07-28 08:00
rank 100
points 3.166.310
villages 387
ODA 17.716.295
ODD 48.162.061
OD 65.878.356

ODD gain: 48.162.061 - 32.829.571 = 15.332.490



Side 1:
Tribes:
Players: redsox1621

Side 2:
Tribes: Plight
Players:

Timeframe: 26/06/2010 00:00:00 to 28/07/2010 14:03:32
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 5
Side 2: 68
Difference: 63

68 losses makes for 225.477 ODD per loss

=======================

Steveuk82

date 2010-06-26 00:00
rank 54
points 4.445.719
villages 444
ODA 14.496.388
ODD 2.473.660
OD 16.970.048

date 2010-07-28 08:00
rank 83
points 3.805.372
villages 380
ODA 19.170.495
ODD 16.659.015
OD 35.829.510

ODD gain: 16.659.015 - 2.473.660 = 14.185.355


Side 1:
Tribes:
Players: steveuk82

Side 2:
Tribes: C²
Players:

Timeframe: 26/06/2010 00:00:00 to 28/07/2010 14:03:32
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 7
Side 2: 77
Difference: 70

77 losses makes for 184.225 ODD per loss


Redsox gained approx. 22.4% more ODD per loss then Steve has so far

[/spoil]

Thanks for the stats.

lol, but u6, doesnt that show that redsox is constantly losing villages, but my slump has finished? ive lost most of my stranded villages and im not losing many now, where as were still killing him.

Not necessarily, as most of his villages are alone and surrounded by BANG!, making it harder for him to have people to fight alongside. You don't have the same problem in your main areas. And your "stranded villages" were never stranded :icon_neutral:. Nor does it really matter. We've proven redsox is killing more in exchange for villages than you are, and neither of you are doing very well either way.