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It is isn't it. I think you'll find many of our views remain consistent i.e. they were loose cannons. Of course we were prepared to defend their "eccenticies" as they we part of the family (as one does one's RL family) but there comes a time when actions become indefensible. Both were guilty of getting into spats with family members in the past. On numerous occasions we tried to calm the situation down and let bygones be bygones. Unfortunately actively colluding and conspiring with the enemy was beyond the limits of even us.
i hell do not know what you said, but Apoc was very tolerant towards them in all kinds of way and the attitude has changed significantly. Comments on them sound a lot harsher comparing to when they were in Apoc ( they were rather forgiving on their mistakes back then)