DeletedUser
Guest
Who is the best player?
Shoot, that's really hard to say. I guess it depends on how you define "best".
If the "best" player was the one with the most skill & knowledge, offensively and defensively, with understanding of all aspects of game play (from leadership to scripting, knowing how to pace yourself, and when to push hard, as well as how to encourage the best game play possible from others) then I would say BD's canine- was possibly the best player I ever met. He was courteous to enemies, approachable as a Duke, and believed that the best way to play the game was to keep it fun, and keep your online time commitments to a minimum.
If you define "best" as the ability to have the most in-game impact for the fewest hours actually spent online, then perhaps BelValcor deserves the title. His scripting prowess has let him do in minutes what it takes the average player hours to do. AND he shares his creations with his tribe, to make BH one of the smoothest run war machines around. (So smooth, I swear the players must fall asleep at the wheel, sometimes ; )
(My apologies to any members of RAM who may take offense to the above statement. I know you've got some good scripters too, and consider your tribe better warriors than BH in many cases. But I have been in BH, and I have seen inside RAM, and my quick bar carries more of Bel's scripts than it does yours.)
Of course, if you want to define "the best player" as the one with the most personal impact on the world… Parmenion can not be overlooked. Many Dukes and Barons have influenced the outcome of wars with how they've thrown their weight around, and the weight of the tribes they've led. But Parmenion is one of those individuals who has caused the rise and fall of Dukes and of tribes, as a mere player.
If you define greatness as the ability to lead others, then many names can be thrown into the ring. Badlapje, JPohlman, Wildcats, Pajuno… even Cshipley (I may not be a fan, but he built the bones of what has become a world power. Wittman, Karmax, Vult & co have done an exceptional job of fleshing it out, and keeping that war machine moving).
Of those, I'd say Pajuno is the "best" - at least, the most effective - Duke I have worked under in w30. And before people point fingers about how I would have to support my own Duke for "best", I'll note that I originally came to work for Paj while I was his enemy. His skills in leadership - in knowing just how hard to push someone, and how far to trust - drew me in, and are what has kept Phoenix on the map waaaay beyond the point when a sane tribe would have given up. His players follow him not because he has promised to win, but because he is Paj.
(On that note, an honorable mention must be given to Cececole, who also led a small but determined tribe way past the point where sane players would have admitted defeat). It is easy to lead people when you are winning, or look like you stand a chance of it. Much harder to do so when the odds are stacked against you. Kudos to the many Dukes on this world who have done so, and with flair.
Were I pressed to define what makes a player good in this game, I would have to say it is a combination of determination, skill, and willingness to learn, topped off with the realization that (a) it's just a game, and (b) no one can make you quit, until you choose to quit. A good player can stand alone, can bend tribes to his will, and can rack up the ODA even while being flooded with incomings. He doesn't desert when things looks bad. He is loyal to his tribe and to his friends, and he doesn't feel the need to insult his enemies.
If that's the qualifications for being the "best" in w30, I think ChamachA has the most right to the title.
- Raven
(whoops - sorry Cece. I hadn't seen your reply yet when posting mine. Very similar thoughts, about how you can't really pick one "best" )
Shoot, that's really hard to say. I guess it depends on how you define "best".
If the "best" player was the one with the most skill & knowledge, offensively and defensively, with understanding of all aspects of game play (from leadership to scripting, knowing how to pace yourself, and when to push hard, as well as how to encourage the best game play possible from others) then I would say BD's canine- was possibly the best player I ever met. He was courteous to enemies, approachable as a Duke, and believed that the best way to play the game was to keep it fun, and keep your online time commitments to a minimum.
If you define "best" as the ability to have the most in-game impact for the fewest hours actually spent online, then perhaps BelValcor deserves the title. His scripting prowess has let him do in minutes what it takes the average player hours to do. AND he shares his creations with his tribe, to make BH one of the smoothest run war machines around. (So smooth, I swear the players must fall asleep at the wheel, sometimes ; )
(My apologies to any members of RAM who may take offense to the above statement. I know you've got some good scripters too, and consider your tribe better warriors than BH in many cases. But I have been in BH, and I have seen inside RAM, and my quick bar carries more of Bel's scripts than it does yours.)
Of course, if you want to define "the best player" as the one with the most personal impact on the world… Parmenion can not be overlooked. Many Dukes and Barons have influenced the outcome of wars with how they've thrown their weight around, and the weight of the tribes they've led. But Parmenion is one of those individuals who has caused the rise and fall of Dukes and of tribes, as a mere player.
If you define greatness as the ability to lead others, then many names can be thrown into the ring. Badlapje, JPohlman, Wildcats, Pajuno… even Cshipley (I may not be a fan, but he built the bones of what has become a world power. Wittman, Karmax, Vult & co have done an exceptional job of fleshing it out, and keeping that war machine moving).
Of those, I'd say Pajuno is the "best" - at least, the most effective - Duke I have worked under in w30. And before people point fingers about how I would have to support my own Duke for "best", I'll note that I originally came to work for Paj while I was his enemy. His skills in leadership - in knowing just how hard to push someone, and how far to trust - drew me in, and are what has kept Phoenix on the map waaaay beyond the point when a sane tribe would have given up. His players follow him not because he has promised to win, but because he is Paj.
(On that note, an honorable mention must be given to Cececole, who also led a small but determined tribe way past the point where sane players would have admitted defeat). It is easy to lead people when you are winning, or look like you stand a chance of it. Much harder to do so when the odds are stacked against you. Kudos to the many Dukes on this world who have done so, and with flair.
Were I pressed to define what makes a player good in this game, I would have to say it is a combination of determination, skill, and willingness to learn, topped off with the realization that (a) it's just a game, and (b) no one can make you quit, until you choose to quit. A good player can stand alone, can bend tribes to his will, and can rack up the ODA even while being flooded with incomings. He doesn't desert when things looks bad. He is loyal to his tribe and to his friends, and he doesn't feel the need to insult his enemies.
If that's the qualifications for being the "best" in w30, I think ChamachA has the most right to the title.
- Raven
(whoops - sorry Cece. I hadn't seen your reply yet when posting mine. Very similar thoughts, about how you can't really pick one "best" )
Last edited by a moderator:
