The betrayal of the dukes

Deathmenlord

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I guess a lot of you guys wonder whats happening with sHave and Virus. I will share some forum posts and mails with you to show whats happening.
I feel disgusted and used right now after the leadership especially hotsparky/finny50 finally has showed their true, manipulative colours.
It all started with a mail from Holyang:
holyang on 02.12. at 03:46
Good Day Mates

The LoL war is over as is the Titan war for all practical purposes. Some of us paid a stiff price for in those wars, troops lost clearing mates so they could noble villages, troops lost sending support to your mates. Some of your villages paid a terrible price, walls knocked down, buildings catted down, and your troops lost defending those villages.

Great job all.So now is the time to rebuild, to prepare for the next war with our enemies as Virus right?

Wrong. Shamefully wrong. Now that you have paid that price your troops have been lost, your villages beaten down and you are trying to rebuild them you are no longer good enough.

Your Dukes are planning on dismissing the tribe and merging with the tops from Shave and a few other tribes. They are only going to take a few from this tribe, the rest of you will be left behind to be the victims of this new tribe they will form despite your previous sacrifices for them.

Ageratos said:
[29-Nov-11 23:14:52] 백군: I can't really tell you
any details right now
[29-Nov-11 23:15:01] 백군: but we might have to redominate k55
[29-Nov-11 23:16:41] 백군: we might have to go against
[29-Nov-11 23:16:50] Holyang: stop
[29-Nov-11 23:16:50] 백군: virus members
[29-Nov-11 23:18:05] Holyang: but have you chose who we are not going
against?
[29-Nov-11 23:18:37] 백군: Yes
[29-Nov-11 23:18:53] 백군: And they are very good experienced
[29-Nov-11 23:19:09] 백군: Wehave too many people in our tribe
[29-Nov-11 23:19:29] 백군: And we really cant winthe game with these
peeps

[29-Nov-11 23:48:29] 백군: make sure you dont tell ANYBODY
[29-Nov-11 23:48:37] 백군: i'll try to expend that date

hotsparky and Ageratos said:
[01:13:02] 백군: back
[01:13:07] 백군: so what did shave said
[01:13:27] Patrick Tye: I gave him a list of people I thought would
be good.
[01:13:36] Patrick Tye: which is different from your list.
[01:13:50] 백군: you said they arent even merging.
[01:13:57] Patrick Tye: With RF.
[01:13:59] Patrick Tye: -.-
[01:14:31] Patrick Tye: Honestly... can't tell anyone this, not even
Oriental...
[01:14:33] Patrick Tye: NO ONE
[01:14:37] Patrick Tye: Not even holy.
[01:14:53] Patrick Tye: They're merging with Pr0, COMbat and VIRUS
[01:15:23] Patrick Tye: We'll control, K55/65/56/75
[01:15:35] 백군: and right against RF?
[01:15:54] Patrick Tye: He's thinking about inviting Oriental and
Inactive100
[01:16:03] Patrick Tye: but he doesn't know if they have the right
attitude for it.
[01:16:06] Patrick Tye: so he doesn't know yet.
[01:16:42] 백군: and what were your list
[01:16:50] Patrick Tye:

http://www.twstats.com/en59/index.p...pe=abandoned&fill=000000&grid=1&kn=1&dullbg=1

[01:17:13] Patrick Tye: only reason SWAGnM is in there is because I
thought him and Riddix were real close friends.
[01:17:24] Patrick Tye: but if they aren't we can throw in Idex or
someone instead.
[01:18:45] 백군: hmm
[01:19:20] 백군: why are they even merging with combat
[01:19:27] 백군: just curious
[01:22:37] Patrick Tye: this is what the tribe will look like with a
total of about 56 people once all the merging is done.
[01:22:44] Patrick Tye:

http://www.twstats.com/en59/index.p...e=abandoned&nocache=1&fill=6b696b&grid=1&kn=1

[01:24:44] 백군: hmm

The top members of this tribe have been given "trusted" status in the forums. They have been told to "quit taking villages and start saving for nobles and to be prepared..".

Ageratos said:
Dear members,

Very few of best members of VIRUS is only access to this thread right now.
I would like to inform you to STOP ATTACKING AND NOBLING

I've talk to oriental raisin, and he won't be attacking you all. Like I said, hes a friend. I have a good reason saything this, but really can't tell you much detail in this moment.

But most importantly, PLEASE start saving your units and nobles. Unless you HAVe to take a certain village, do so. But if not, please stop all the claims and nobles. WE WILL NEED THEM in the future.

Much detail information will be informed in the future. Everything says in this thread, stays in this thread.

[player]Ageratos[/player]


They have not been told to be prepared for what, they do not know what they are being prepared for is to leave you their mates, and then use those nobles to take your villages from you, their former mates.

Hotsparky said:
holyang
The New Kid on the Block
darkslayer56
TTTCCCAAA
Seek Truth
kupal15
vanzant
hotsparky
xaiin
riddix
fearless05
phromanoc1108
dragonliu
idex

AS a member of a tribe you owe your loyalty to the Duke. You owe it to them to follow their orders the best that you can, to sacrifice your troops to save your mates, to even sacrifice your villages if needed for the best interest of the tribe they lead.

But you the players that form the tribe are also entitled to their loyalty also, it is a two way street. But instead you have been betrayed by them because you are now "unworthy."

If you see the list, I am at the top. But... I can not do this. I can not be a part of this. I will not do this. I will not turn my back on players who supported this tribe the way you have in the past and the way I know you can in the future. You deserve better than this and I will not be part of this betrayal.

I am soon going to leave this tribe and form a new tribe called The Resistance Tribe Tag~Res~. Reply to this mail if you are with me. I am going to send you invitations. You can also pm me for one. [color=]I am asking all of you who find this betray offensive, who like me can not betray your mates to accept and come join me.[/color]

[player]Holyang[/player]
Your dearest baron.




It came as a shock on most of us and we didnt really know what to believe.
The we got a mail from finny:
hotsparky on 02.12. at 11:21
Anyone who left for [ally]~Res~[/ally] and come back ARE STILL considered family. They are not to be treated bad because they left. They were manipulated by [player]Holyang[/player] because he was mad and me and Ageratos. They were confused and that is it.

Everyone in this tribe is family as well as the confused people who are in [ally]~Res~[/ally]. I asked that no one attack anyone in [ally]~Res~[/ally] at this time unless you're attacked first. However, if they attack anyone here... I guess that just shows their true colors.

-Finny50



And one from our duke:
Ageratos on 02.12. at 07:26
Dear [ally]VIRUS[/ally],

I know you all have been great figher and player of the TW and [player]VIRUSE[/player]. We have fought and won the wars against tribes to dominate our continent and secure our territory in order to move onto the next phase of world domination. Unlike someone, [ally]B.K[/ally] was my FIRST tribe to join which switch its name to [ally]VIRUS[/ally]. [ally]VIRUS[/ally] was the one and ONLY tribe I have been part of and TRUST in world 59 since the beginning. I recruited and welcomed every single members of the tribe. I have done everything to make our tribe the one of the best in the world 59. But I have noticed that someone whom I have trusted, have betrayed his leaders and tribe in order to take the position of a 'Duke' of the tribe. I have been a head of the [ally]VIRUS[/ally] since the beginning and I was proud and happy to be a part of the leader in [ally]VIRUS[/ally].


Ageratos wrote:
[29-Nov-11 23:14:52] 백군: Things like this can be edited SO easliy
[29-Nov-11 23:15:01] 백군: This is just a one way to make the members to distrust and disobey the tribe that the members have been serving.
[29-Nov-11 23:16:41] 백군: As you all have been loyal to VIRUS,
[29-Nov-11 23:16:50] 백군: I as a Duke, I trusted every single members.
[29-Nov-11 23:16:50] 백군: As a head of the tribe
[29-Nov-11 23:18:05] 백군: I will ONLY do whats right for the tribe.
[29-Nov-11 23:18:37] 백군: And will not forgive one who has betrayed the tribe and the members.
[29-Nov-11 23:18:53] 백군: Now, it's time to make a decision.
[29-Nov-11 23:19:09] 백군: YOUR decision.
[29-Nov-11 23:19:29] 백군: I will not force you to believe me and follow.
[29-Nov-11 23:48:29] 백군: But believe what you think is right.
[29-Nov-11 23:48:37] 백군: And act what you think is right.


YES, I have ONLY told several members for to prepare for their units and nobles. Because first, several tribes around K55 ARE planning for merge. And they WILL be a HUGE THREAT to [ally]VIRUS[/ally] later on. They have asked us to be part, but hotsparky and I have DECLINED the offer and be part of the [ally]VIRUS[/ally], just like we always have been. I wanted to make sure some members are preparing for the war as well as finishing the war against fighting against left over Titans. The only reason I have not told EVERY member, that's because we have NOT yet finished our war against Titans. Some members need to grow in their villages and units. That's why I have not told everyone to do that. Nothing was decided and didn't want to give out faluse information to slow down growth of other members. Second, this was just a one way to find who to trust or not. And for sure I have found several members who I shouldn't have trusted.

Now its your choice to be a VIRUS or not.

[player]Ageratos[/player]

And a forum post, notice the bolded parts
hotsparky on 02.12.2011 at 11:16
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Anyone who left for ~Res~ and come back ARE STILL considered family. They are not to be treated bad because they left. They were manipulated by Holyang because he was mad and me and Ageratos. They were confused and that is it.

Everyone in this tribe is family as well as the confused people who are in ~Res~. I asked that no one attack anyone in ~Res~ at this time unless you're attacked first. However, if they attack anyone here... I guess that just shows their true colors.

Also, if anyone even believes for a second that I would backstab and betray you, you might as well leave now. Because I'm not sure what I've done to make you think that this far. The only reason I did not step down was because you guys said I did an amazing job. :s

-Finny50

Most of us wasnt sure what to believe, but they were after all our leaders. We should at least have some trust in them?
And now when i log on I can read this on the forums:
hotsparky today at 15:56
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some of us are moving over to shAve. After everything that happened I couldn't arrange it for everyone to move over, however everyone who is moving will be instructed to not atack anyone in VIRUS unless they're attacked first.

Sorry it has to be this way but some IRL stuff has happened recently with me and I won't be able to lead the way I have been and neither will Ageratos so we're doing hat we feel is best for most of the people in VIRUS.

Again, no one will be attacked unless attack first.

Sorry guys, I'm sure the majority of you guys will dislike me for pretty much forever. Nothing I can do about that but I still like everyone in VIRUS and consider you guys my friends.

-Finny50

I will stop whining now, this is how the game is. I just wanted to share this because I found it particularly low even for tribalwars.

And from what I have gotten to know about finny50 I expect sHave troops to be on our doorstep within a few days in spite of what he said earlier.

Deathmenlord today at 17:01
So much for your word about no attacks from shave, lasted about.. 1 hour?

hotsparky today at 17:20
Holy has been attacking Raging for like the passed 2 days. Nothing I can do about that... I've instructed everyone not to attack, I can't FORCE them not to. If you have any idea of how
 

DeletedUser

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Big whoop?

Ur playing tribal wars man sad as it is loyalty and honor went out the window a long time ago.

This early into the world tribes splitting and merging is normal practice.
Take in a lot find the best drop the rest and move on this time was just on a larger scale then most.

Just for context i joint shave today from pr0 as 1 half of marcos1602.
 

Deathmenlord

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Big whoop?

Ur playing tribal wars man sad as it is loyalty and honor went out the window a long time ago.

This early into the world tribes splitting and merging is normal practice.
Take in a lot find the best drop the rest and move on this time was just on a larger scale then most.

Just for context i joint shave today from pr0 as 1 half of marcos1602.
I know, thats why I wrote it at the bottom of my post. I just wanted to share this cause I found the way he did it despicable and low even for tribalwars, not only him but Ageratos and the council to.
 

DeletedUser

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Sad to see.

And i thought shAve wasn't massinvite, how wrong i have been. :icon_neutral:

Some people just don't realize, people actually spend IRL time for a game. They follow their dukes and are now abandoned by them who they have given their full trust in.

I can not do much about it, just to make sure shAve never gets lifted up as a "good" tribe anymore, Damn. Pita is the real deal now.

(No, to all of you shave members that will flame this, it was YOUR tribe that invited them and made this betrayal possible)
 

DeletedUser

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Death, think you're just super mad. Calm down a bit before you continue posting:

Deathmenlord today at 16:00Thanks Quote Edit Delete
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Deathmenlord today at 16:03Thanks Quote Edit Delete
that son of horseraeped wh****

Cute though.
 

DeletedUser96310

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As Co-Duke of ShAve, let me say that your analogy, though in your perspective is justified, won't affect how I or any of the council within moves forward. The game requires tribes to change. Those who don't rarely last. A very wise man once stated that Fools never change. I'm sure we've all heard that, yes?

As for the merge.. I could easily post the reasons and allow the thread to explode for days discussing the whys with every player on 59. Truth is simple though. We felt it was to our advantage and the advantage of those who were joining to make this happen. We understood that feelings would flare and some would flame. We, the council of ShAve, accept the flaming and without regret, won't change our decision to move forward. Our members will continue to game as they always have. They will be asked to stay focused, to remain active and to act dignified and respectable. Our leaders will be continue to lead in a manner that we feel is provides the best chance for success and we'll do this regardless of what anyone on the externals deems as poor gaming. No decision in ShAve is made without considerable thought and discussion now nor will any future decisions be made without the same discussions.

Outside of posting respectfully the externals and the opinions here in, have little effect on how ShAve will game.
 

DeletedUser

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Sad to see.

And i thought shAve wasn't massinvite, how wrong i have been. :icon_neutral:

Some people just don't realize, people actually spend IRL time for a game. They follow their dukes and are now abandoned by them who they have given their full trust in.

I can not do much about it, just to make sure shAve never gets lifted up as a "good" tribe anymore, Damn. Pita is the real deal now.

(No, to all of you shave members that will flame this, it was YOUR tribe that invited them and made this betrayal possible)

How does it make them mass recruiters?? Recruiting Decent members to give them control over a K thats in there areea does not make them a mass recruiting tribe. If you were to look at the map, ShAve's Recruitment gave them control over K55, Which Links there K65 and K56 together. Now, How is this mass recruitment?


Shaves leadership realized that there was no way they were going to hold the southeast with 20 or so member, so they are recruting, i do not blame them, And if i was still leading i would have done the same thing.
 
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DeletedUser

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Death, think you're just super mad. Calm down a bit before you continue posting:

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Deathmenlord today at 16:03Thanks Quote Edit Delete
that son of horseraeped wh****

Cute though.


why should he didnt you just screw your own tribemates over? and bragged about your lies like they are a vicotory i warned them you lie and could not be trusted now they see the truth. you lied about shave you lied to titan and the biggest lie was getting your own tribe to the point they can not defend themselfs. if i were really in any tribe i would have everyone you lied to attack and destroy you wont fix the mess there in but man it would be funny watching the great hotsparky restart
 

Deathmenlord

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As Co-Duke of ShAve, let me say that your analogy, though in your perspective is justified, won't affect how I or any of the council within moves forward. The game requires tribes to change. Those who don't rarely last. A very wise man once stated that Fools never change. I'm sure we've all heard that, yes?

As for the merge.. I could easily post the reasons and allow the thread to explode for days discussing the whys with every player on 59. Truth is simple though. We felt it was to our advantage and the advantage of those who were joining to make this happen. We understood that feelings would flare and some would flame. We, the council of ShAve, accept the flaming and without regret, won't change our decision to move forward. Our members will continue to game as they always have. They will be asked to stay focused, to remain active and to act dignified and respectable. Our leaders will be continue to lead in a manner that we feel is provides the best chance for success and we'll do this regardless of what anyone on the externals deems as poor gaming. No decision in ShAve is made without considerable thought and discussion now nor will any future decisions be made without the same discussions.

Outside of posting respectfully the externals and the opinions here in, have little effect on how ShAve will game.
I have never blamed sHave for merging, that wasnt why I created this thread. I created it because didnt find the way our leadership went through with this okay at all, it is despicable in fact.
Death, think you're just super mad. Calm down a bit before you continue posting:

Deathmenlord today at 16:00Thanks Quote Edit Delete
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Deathmenlord today at 16:03Thanks Quote Edit Delete
that son of horseraeped wh****

Cute though.
Attack the person, not the actual case. You are good at that.

I was mad? I wonder why.. And anyway it was totally unreasonable of me, why would I be mad by something like this ;)

And i like your Master suppression techniques at the end. It is cute.
 
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monsterbro

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As Co-Duke of ShAve, let me say that your analogy, though in your perspective is justified, won't affect how I or any of the council within moves forward. The game requires tribes to change. Those who don't rarely last. A very wise man once stated that Fools never change. I'm sure we've all heard that, yes?

As for the merge.. I could easily post the reasons and allow the thread to explode for days discussing the whys with every player on 59. Truth is simple though. We felt it was to our advantage and the advantage of those who were joining to make this happen. We understood that feelings would flare and some would flame. We, the council of ShAve, accept the flaming and without regret, won't change our decision to move forward. Our members will continue to game as they always have. They will be asked to stay focused, to remain active and to act dignified and respectable. Our leaders will be continue to lead in a manner that we feel is provides the best chance for success and we'll do this regardless of what anyone on the externals deems as poor gaming. No decision in ShAve is made without considerable thought and discussion now nor will any future decisions be made without the same discussions.

Outside of posting respectfully the externals and the opinions here in, have little effect on how ShAve will game.

dont worry about it man. The people that didnt make it into shave are just disappointed so they made thread and try make everyone hate on you guys. It happened to CAN and now happening to you guys just say screw the haters and keep doing what you are doing
 

DeletedUser

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Some Pr0 members joined shAve and they had been doing so well as a tribe. The Pr0 leadership mailed them earlier in the week, stating that some members would be joining another tribe, not mentioning shAve so as to keep details of the merge quiet until it actually took place.

[SPOIL]Hello Everyone
This is a circular Mail.

Recently a tribe contacted a few members in Pr0 including Me and Jack with the offer of joining them, whereby we initially rejected the idea, after discussing it with each other and the Tribe making the offer we have agreed to it.

The members contacted will be joining if they wish to. We would like to give you time to appoint a new duke If you wish to or find a new tribe. It has been a honor duking you all as I felt we where such a good set of players and im sure alot of you will do well in the future.

We will be leaving on Sunday, we are giving you advance notice of our departure.

We are deeply sorry if any of you feel like we may have screwed you over as We feel that we truely get along with all of you, but we understand if any of you are angry/dissapointed at us :(

If you need any help or advice please still feel free to mail us, Me and Jack will be happy to help you.

Regards
Jack & Glen
WeIsNubs[/SPOIL]

Its clear from this post that the Dukes in Virus acted poorly, and should have informed their members that they would be leaving instead of leading everyone in VIRUS to believe that they rejected the merge.

shAve has not necessarily mass recruited, they have taken the better players from Pr0, COMbat and VIRUS, in what is more selective recruitment than mass recruitment IMAO :icon_rolleyes:


It will be interesting though to see how this new shAve does, surely they have made a lot of enemies :icon_evil:
 

DeletedUser

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Well, the point here is not the merge, it might be a great move for Shave and is in every way logical.

The actual point is Finny50 after blabbering on externals about how to lead a tribe with 70 members, how his members are the best ( yes all 70 of them are the best , check some other post ) and about loyalty blah blah blah actually writing that sort of shit on skype behind his members's backs saying they are unworthy.

And now he comes here to flame a guy who was just loyal to his old tribe and still is.

By the way, its pointless talking about shave recruiting or merging. Come on, who would lose the chance to get some good members and continent control. All these days when shave had 18 members people were saying that quantity will win over quality. I guess now they ll have both. So its a nice move :)

I had my doubts on Finny since the first time i saw his posts on externals. For some reason i really din't feel they were true to heart. Just beating around the bush, just fake.
 
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DeletedUser96310

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I know this is something that seems to be said over and over in TW but.. how about we all just hold hands and sing kumbaya. A merge happened lesss, its not the first nor will it be the last. I'm sure if you gamed for any length of time you've been on both sides of merges. I know I have been. It sucks not being one of those getting the invites but so too does waking up and having the wife say she's not interested this morning but I don't open tweeter and tweet to all my friends that I my morning love didn't give me love. I mean seriously, your killing the mood mate. :icon_razz:
 

DeletedUser

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I know this is something that seems to be said over and over in TW but.. how about we all just hold hands and sing kumbaya. A merge happened lesss, its not the first nor will it be the last. I'm sure if you gamed for any length of time you've been on both sides of merges. I know I have been. It sucks not being one of those getting the invites but so too does waking up and having the wife say she's not interested this morning but I don't open tweeter and tweet to all my friends that I my morning love didn't give me love. I mean seriously, your killing the mood mate. :icon_razz:

Merges when done the right way are absolutely fine, whoever speaks here against them are just insecure that another tribe is getting good members and growing bigger.

All the best shave :)
 

DeletedUser

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How does it make them mass recruiters?? Recruiting Decent members to give them control over a K thats in there areea does not make them a mass recruiting tribe. If you were to look at the map, ShAve's Recruitment gave them control over K55, Which Links there K65 and K56 together. Now, How is this mass recruitment?


Shaves leadership realized that there was no way they were going to hold the southeast with 20 or so member, so they are recruting, i do not blame them, And if i was still leading i would have done the same thing.

Lol that IS massrecruiting. Your inviting them cause you couldn't war them down LMAO.

Sure i can buy the "take the best" But, 20? ARE YOU SURE thats the best? and not the best + 15-18 Trash that had points? :icon_redface:

Shave had 32, now 51 thats +19 thats alot to invite.

Shave = MASSINVITE. End of story. I thought highly of them until this...lmao nobling noobs Gl rofl. Gl keeping the good players interested!
 

DeletedUser

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Lol that IS massrecruiting. Your inviting them cause you couldn't war them down LMAO.

Sure i can buy the "take the best" But, 20? ARE YOU SURE thats the best? and not the best + 15-18 Trash that had points? :icon_redface:

Shave had 32, now 51 thats +19 thats alot to invite.

Shave = MASSINVITE. End of story. I thought highly of them until this...lmao nobling noobs Gl rofl. Gl keeping the good players interested!

You dont use logic, like i said in the previous post. Obviously shave might have had to take 3-4 member deadweight in this merge. But in the course of time, they ll be gone and shave got 15 good members. Sounds like a good enough deal to me. :icon_idea:
 

DeletedUser96310

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what account do you game on henrik? just asking as I like to know who I'm dialogging with. Thanks :)
 

slinkiestwizard

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Its clear from this post that the Dukes in Virus acted poorly, and should have informed their members that they would be leaving instead of leading everyone in VIRUS to believe that they rejected the merge.

shAve has not necessarily mass recruited, they have taken the better players from Pr0, COMbat and VIRUS, in what is more selective recruitment than mass recruitment IMAO :icon_rolleyes:


It will be interesting though to see how this new shAve does, surely they have made a lot of enemies :icon_evil:

I like this post it shows that we didnt mass recruit (nor have we ever to my recollection )and were selective, IMO shave leadership has done a good job keeping tribe numbers down and controlling a fully active tribe .

As for shaves new enemies they were always our enemies now they are just more alerted to it .

I dont recall many tribes having to hug to victory so yeah enemies it is this is Tribal WARS isnt it?
 

Deathmenlord

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I know this is something that seems to be said over and over in TW but.. how about we all just hold hands and sing kumbaya. A merge happened lesss, its not the first nor will it be the last. I'm sure if you gamed for any length of time you've been on both sides of merges. I know I have been. It sucks not being one of those getting the invites but so too does waking up and having the wife say she's not interested this morning but I don't open tweeter and tweet to all my friends that I my morning love didn't give me love. I mean seriously, your killing the mood mate. :icon_razz:
What mood are you talking about? We are having a party in virus atm, no lack of mood here. Why would we be mad, disappointed and disgusted?
Singing kumbaya was why I made this thread.
But I cant agree with that little comparison of yours. First she gets you to use most of your money on something she wishes. Then she starts cheating and friend of you notices, but she is very manipulative and your family also know about this cheating and supports her action and they all lie straight in your face. She turns you around against your friend and makes you believe everything is okay. She then proceed with cheating straight in front of your face and spits on you. While she is leaving the house she takes the whole structure and fundamentals of your life with her and say she wont sue you. But since she is a liar she comes back and sue you for everthing else you got left and leaves you with nothing.

Still waiting on the hitman..
 

DeletedUser

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What mood are you talking about? We are having a party in virus atm, no lack of mood here. Why would we be mad, disappointed and disgusted?
Singing kumbaya was why I made this thread.
But I cant agree with that little comparison of yours. First she gets you to use most of your money on something she wishes. Then she starts cheating and friend of you notices, but she is very manipulative and your family also know about this cheating and supports her action and they all lie straight in your face. She turns you around against your friend and makes you believe everything is okay. She then proceed with cheating straight in front of your face and spits on you. While she is leaving the house she takes the whole structure and fundamentals of your life with her and say she wont sue you. But since she is a liar she comes back and sue you for everthing else you got left and leaves you with nothing.

Still waiting on the hitman..

You forgot the dog. They always take the dog :<
 
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