Deathmenlord
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I guess a lot of you guys wonder whats happening with sHave and Virus. I will share some forum posts and mails with you to show whats happening.
I feel disgusted and used right now after the leadership especially hotsparky/finny50 finally has showed their true, manipulative colours.
It all started with a mail from Holyang:
It came as a shock on most of us and we didnt really know what to believe.
The we got a mail from finny:
And one from our duke:
And a forum post, notice the bolded parts
Most of us wasnt sure what to believe, but they were after all our leaders. We should at least have some trust in them?
And now when i log on I can read this on the forums:
I will stop whining now, this is how the game is. I just wanted to share this because I found it particularly low even for tribalwars.
And from what I have gotten to know about finny50 I expect sHave troops to be on our doorstep within a few days in spite of what he said earlier.
I feel disgusted and used right now after the leadership especially hotsparky/finny50 finally has showed their true, manipulative colours.
It all started with a mail from Holyang:
holyang on 02.12. at 03:46
Good Day Mates
The LoL war is over as is the Titan war for all practical purposes. Some of us paid a stiff price for in those wars, troops lost clearing mates so they could noble villages, troops lost sending support to your mates. Some of your villages paid a terrible price, walls knocked down, buildings catted down, and your troops lost defending those villages.
Great job all.So now is the time to rebuild, to prepare for the next war with our enemies as Virus right?
Wrong. Shamefully wrong. Now that you have paid that price your troops have been lost, your villages beaten down and you are trying to rebuild them you are no longer good enough.
Your Dukes are planning on dismissing the tribe and merging with the tops from Shave and a few other tribes. They are only going to take a few from this tribe, the rest of you will be left behind to be the victims of this new tribe they will form despite your previous sacrifices for them.
Ageratos said:[29-Nov-11 23:14:52] 백군: I can't really tell you
any details right now
[29-Nov-11 23:15:01] 백군: but we might have to redominate k55
[29-Nov-11 23:16:41] 백군: we might have to go against
[29-Nov-11 23:16:50] Holyang: stop
[29-Nov-11 23:16:50] 백군: virus members
[29-Nov-11 23:18:05] Holyang: but have you chose who we are not going
against?
[29-Nov-11 23:18:37] 백군: Yes
[29-Nov-11 23:18:53] 백군: And they are very good experienced
[29-Nov-11 23:19:09] 백군: Wehave too many people in our tribe
[29-Nov-11 23:19:29] 백군: And we really cant winthe game with these
peeps
[29-Nov-11 23:48:29] 백군: make sure you dont tell ANYBODY
[29-Nov-11 23:48:37] 백군: i'll try to expend that date
hotsparky and Ageratos said:[01:13:02] 백군: back
[01:13:07] 백군: so what did shave said
[01:13:27] Patrick Tye: I gave him a list of people I thought would
be good.
[01:13:36] Patrick Tye: which is different from your list.
[01:13:50] 백군: you said they arent even merging.
[01:13:57] Patrick Tye: With RF.
[01:13:59] Patrick Tye: -.-
[01:14:31] Patrick Tye: Honestly... can't tell anyone this, not even
Oriental...
[01:14:33] Patrick Tye: NO ONE
[01:14:37] Patrick Tye: Not even holy.
[01:14:53] Patrick Tye: They're merging with Pr0, COMbat and VIRUS
[01:15:23] Patrick Tye: We'll control, K55/65/56/75
[01:15:35] 백군: and right against RF?
[01:15:54] Patrick Tye: He's thinking about inviting Oriental and
Inactive100
[01:16:03] Patrick Tye: but he doesn't know if they have the right
attitude for it.
[01:16:06] Patrick Tye: so he doesn't know yet.
[01:16:42] 백군: and what were your list
[01:16:50] Patrick Tye:
http://www.twstats.com/en59/index.p...pe=abandoned&fill=000000&grid=1&kn=1&dullbg=1
[01:17:13] Patrick Tye: only reason SWAGnM is in there is because I
thought him and Riddix were real close friends.
[01:17:24] Patrick Tye: but if they aren't we can throw in Idex or
someone instead.
[01:18:45] 백군: hmm
[01:19:20] 백군: why are they even merging with combat
[01:19:27] 백군: just curious
[01:22:37] Patrick Tye: this is what the tribe will look like with a
total of about 56 people once all the merging is done.
[01:22:44] Patrick Tye:
http://www.twstats.com/en59/index.p...e=abandoned&nocache=1&fill=6b696b&grid=1&kn=1
[01:24:44] 백군: hmm
The top members of this tribe have been given "trusted" status in the forums. They have been told to "quit taking villages and start saving for nobles and to be prepared..".
Ageratos said:Dear members,
Very few of best members of VIRUS is only access to this thread right now.
I would like to inform you to STOP ATTACKING AND NOBLING
I've talk to oriental raisin, and he won't be attacking you all. Like I said, hes a friend. I have a good reason saything this, but really can't tell you much detail in this moment.
But most importantly, PLEASE start saving your units and nobles. Unless you HAVe to take a certain village, do so. But if not, please stop all the claims and nobles. WE WILL NEED THEM in the future.
Much detail information will be informed in the future. Everything says in this thread, stays in this thread.
[player]Ageratos[/player]
They have not been told to be prepared for what, they do not know what they are being prepared for is to leave you their mates, and then use those nobles to take your villages from you, their former mates.
Hotsparky said:holyang
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AS a member of a tribe you owe your loyalty to the Duke. You owe it to them to follow their orders the best that you can, to sacrifice your troops to save your mates, to even sacrifice your villages if needed for the best interest of the tribe they lead.
But you the players that form the tribe are also entitled to their loyalty also, it is a two way street. But instead you have been betrayed by them because you are now "unworthy."
If you see the list, I am at the top. But... I can not do this. I can not be a part of this. I will not do this. I will not turn my back on players who supported this tribe the way you have in the past and the way I know you can in the future. You deserve better than this and I will not be part of this betrayal.
I am soon going to leave this tribe and form a new tribe called The Resistance Tribe Tag~Res~. Reply to this mail if you are with me. I am going to send you invitations. You can also pm me for one. [color=]I am asking all of you who find this betray offensive, who like me can not betray your mates to accept and come join me.[/color]
[player]Holyang[/player]
Your dearest baron.
It came as a shock on most of us and we didnt really know what to believe.
The we got a mail from finny:
hotsparky on 02.12. at 11:21
Anyone who left for [ally]~Res~[/ally] and come back ARE STILL considered family. They are not to be treated bad because they left. They were manipulated by [player]Holyang[/player] because he was mad and me and Ageratos. They were confused and that is it.
Everyone in this tribe is family as well as the confused people who are in [ally]~Res~[/ally]. I asked that no one attack anyone in [ally]~Res~[/ally] at this time unless you're attacked first. However, if they attack anyone here... I guess that just shows their true colors.
-Finny50
And one from our duke:
Ageratos on 02.12. at 07:26
Dear [ally]VIRUS[/ally],
I know you all have been great figher and player of the TW and [player]VIRUSE[/player]. We have fought and won the wars against tribes to dominate our continent and secure our territory in order to move onto the next phase of world domination. Unlike someone, [ally]B.K[/ally] was my FIRST tribe to join which switch its name to [ally]VIRUS[/ally]. [ally]VIRUS[/ally] was the one and ONLY tribe I have been part of and TRUST in world 59 since the beginning. I recruited and welcomed every single members of the tribe. I have done everything to make our tribe the one of the best in the world 59. But I have noticed that someone whom I have trusted, have betrayed his leaders and tribe in order to take the position of a 'Duke' of the tribe. I have been a head of the [ally]VIRUS[/ally] since the beginning and I was proud and happy to be a part of the leader in [ally]VIRUS[/ally].
Ageratos wrote:
[29-Nov-11 23:14:52] 백군: Things like this can be edited SO easliy
[29-Nov-11 23:15:01] 백군: This is just a one way to make the members to distrust and disobey the tribe that the members have been serving.
[29-Nov-11 23:16:41] 백군: As you all have been loyal to VIRUS,
[29-Nov-11 23:16:50] 백군: I as a Duke, I trusted every single members.
[29-Nov-11 23:16:50] 백군: As a head of the tribe
[29-Nov-11 23:18:05] 백군: I will ONLY do whats right for the tribe.
[29-Nov-11 23:18:37] 백군: And will not forgive one who has betrayed the tribe and the members.
[29-Nov-11 23:18:53] 백군: Now, it's time to make a decision.
[29-Nov-11 23:19:09] 백군: YOUR decision.
[29-Nov-11 23:19:29] 백군: I will not force you to believe me and follow.
[29-Nov-11 23:48:29] 백군: But believe what you think is right.
[29-Nov-11 23:48:37] 백군: And act what you think is right.
YES, I have ONLY told several members for to prepare for their units and nobles. Because first, several tribes around K55 ARE planning for merge. And they WILL be a HUGE THREAT to [ally]VIRUS[/ally] later on. They have asked us to be part, but hotsparky and I have DECLINED the offer and be part of the [ally]VIRUS[/ally], just like we always have been. I wanted to make sure some members are preparing for the war as well as finishing the war against fighting against left over Titans. The only reason I have not told EVERY member, that's because we have NOT yet finished our war against Titans. Some members need to grow in their villages and units. That's why I have not told everyone to do that. Nothing was decided and didn't want to give out faluse information to slow down growth of other members. Second, this was just a one way to find who to trust or not. And for sure I have found several members who I shouldn't have trusted.
Now its your choice to be a VIRUS or not.
[player]Ageratos[/player]
And a forum post, notice the bolded parts
hotsparky on 02.12.2011 at 11:16
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Anyone who left for ~Res~ and come back ARE STILL considered family. They are not to be treated bad because they left. They were manipulated by Holyang because he was mad and me and Ageratos. They were confused and that is it.
Everyone in this tribe is family as well as the confused people who are in ~Res~. I asked that no one attack anyone in ~Res~ at this time unless you're attacked first. However, if they attack anyone here... I guess that just shows their true colors.
Also, if anyone even believes for a second that I would backstab and betray you, you might as well leave now. Because I'm not sure what I've done to make you think that this far. The only reason I did not step down was because you guys said I did an amazing job. :s
-Finny50
Most of us wasnt sure what to believe, but they were after all our leaders. We should at least have some trust in them?
And now when i log on I can read this on the forums:
hotsparky today at 15:56
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some of us are moving over to shAve. After everything that happened I couldn't arrange it for everyone to move over, however everyone who is moving will be instructed to not atack anyone in VIRUS unless they're attacked first.
Sorry it has to be this way but some IRL stuff has happened recently with me and I won't be able to lead the way I have been and neither will Ageratos so we're doing hat we feel is best for most of the people in VIRUS.
Again, no one will be attacked unless attack first.
Sorry guys, I'm sure the majority of you guys will dislike me for pretty much forever. Nothing I can do about that but I still like everyone in VIRUS and consider you guys my friends.
-Finny50
I will stop whining now, this is how the game is. I just wanted to share this because I found it particularly low even for tribalwars.
And from what I have gotten to know about finny50 I expect sHave troops to be on our doorstep within a few days in spite of what he said earlier.
Deathmenlord today at 17:01
So much for your word about no attacks from shave, lasted about.. 1 hour?
hotsparky today at 17:20
Holy has been attacking Raging for like the passed 2 days. Nothing I can do about that... I've instructed everyone not to attack, I can't FORCE them not to. If you have any idea of how