The betrayal of the dukes

DeletedUser

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Oh im sorry, i thought Shave liked having few members, but i now know i was wrong.

Whats the limit? 75? Go ask RF? Rank 1 guy might want to join you? How fun doesn't that sound? :icon_rolleyes: :lol:

Sure, you found 15 gd members in Virus. The standards in shave can't be that high then, even i could join :lol:
 

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see Death.. now this is dialogging... I can put forth that you have an agenda that is counter productive to my agenda... hence, what you think you see is her cheating when in reality, she is doing what she knows is best for what she wants. In that, I too know that is what she's doing and therefore I know that patience wins out and in the end all the nay sayers that were reading into the issues from outside the circle really did nothing but strengthen that which they assumed was broken.
 

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henrik338 said:
Oh im sorry, i thought Shave liked having few members, but i now know i was wrong.

Whats the limit? 75? Go ask RF? Rank 1 guy might want to join you? How fun doesn't that sound? :icon_rolleyes: :lol:

Sure, you found 15 gd members in Virus. The standards in shave can't be that high then, even i could join :lol:
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and you are? seriously, I really would like to know.
 

DeletedUser

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Deathmenlord said:
What mood are you talking about? We are having a party in virus atm, no lack of mood here. Why would we be mad, disappointed and disgusted?
Singing kumbaya was why I made this thread.
But I cant agree with that little comparison of yours. First she gets you to use most of your money on something she wishes. Then she starts cheating and friend of you notices, but she is very manipulative and your family also know about this cheating and supports her action and they all lie straight in your face. She turns you around against your friend and makes you believe everything is okay. She then proceed with cheating straight in front of your face and spits on you. While she is leaving the house she takes the whole structure and fundamentals of your life with her and say she wont sue you. But since she is a liar she comes back and sue you for everthing else you got left and leaves you with nothing.

Still waiting on the hitman..
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What sort of relationship are you in? :icon_eek:

I'm assuming your admission of the 'party' atmosphere in VIRUS is sarcasm, or maybe you guys actually do like when members leave as they feel your tribe isn't good enough....:icon_rolleyes:

If you were in shAves position you would have done the same thing, to be able to recruit who you wish in a world is not mass recruiting. It becomes much more than that, it is selective, shAve took the best from each tribe, they did not just max out their invite list and say first come first serve

I feel shAve have made a brilliant tactical move, though it will and is coming under sharp critisism, shAve have managed to spread themselves across 5K's, that is a great spread for so early in a world, initially their spread was quite poor, with some members isolated in the south etc. but now if they can make this work I feel they could be around for awhile.
 

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waves 2u said:
and you are? seriously, I really would like to know.
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Whatever you are argue waves, there are just 2 points here,

1. Merge was good.

2. No denying the fact that Finny cheated on his tribe after all that big talk on externals
 

Deathmenlord

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Moderate Presense said:
What sort of relationship are you in? :icon_eek:

I'm assuming your admission of the 'party' atmosphere in VIRUS is sarcasm, or maybe you guys actually do like when members leave as they feel your tribe isn't good enough....:icon_rolleyes:

If you were in shAves position you would have done the same thing, to be able to recruit who you wish in a world is not mass recruiting. It becomes much more than that, it is selective, shAve took the best from each tribe, they did not just max out their invite list and say first come first serve

I feel shAve have made a brilliant tactical move, though it will and is coming under sharp critisism, shAve have managed to spread themselves across 5K's, that is a great spread for so early in a world, initially their spread was quite poor, with some members isolated in the south etc. but now if they can make this work I feel they could be around for awhile.
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Why do everyone assume I attack sHave, they made a smart move and I dont blame them at all. What i am dissatisfied with is how our leadership acted and backstabbed us in a very nasty and dirty way.
Yes the first part of my post was sarcastic :)

And waves, if you had managed to see the topic from more than one biased side maybe you would understand what I am trying to say.

EDIT;
Btw, just got some info from a reliable source that sHave plans to attack us in a few days. So much for Finny's word...
 
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deathmenlord said:
why do everyone assume i attack shave, they made a smart move and i dont blame them at all. What i am dissatisfied with is how our leadership acted and backstabbed us in a very nasty and dirty way.
Yes the first part of my post was sarcastic :)

and waves, if you had managed to see the topic from more than one biased side maybe you would understand what i am trying to say.
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+1
 

slinkiestwizard

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TehDrunkPenguin. said:
Whatever you are argue waves, there are just 2 points here,

1. Merge was good.

2. No denying the fact that Finny cheated on his tribe after all that big talk on externals
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Well then Finny has to answer to his former member and allies , this shouldn't blacken Shaves eye in anyway as there never was any Diplomacy with Virus other then a PA or 2 . And im still seeing this as selective recruitment
 

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slinkiestwizard said:
Well then Finny has to answer to his former member and allies , this shouldn't blacken Shaves eye in anyway as there never was any Diplomacy with Virus other then a PA or 2 . And im still seeing this as selective recruitment
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Just repeating the same opinion in different words, arent we :icon_redface:
 

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Deathmenlord said:
Btw, just got some info from a reliable source that shave plans to attack us in a few days. So much for Finny's word...
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Strange i dont see anything about any planned attacks and im in shave i think u need a new reliable source :).
 

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slinkiestwizard said:
Well then Finny has to answer to his former member and allies , this shouldn't blacken Shaves eye in anyway as there never was any Diplomacy with Virus other then a PA or 2 . And im still seeing this as selective recruitment
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yes and no, Finny is ShAve now... therefore we (ShAve) will as always, work as a team. Finny is getting the brunt of this and it was expected yes but there are truths that haven't been spoken.

The truth is simple:
- A few of his former tribe members feel abandoned. Most of us have been there and can relate.
- Leadership takes time, focus and sacrifice. His, nor Ag's real life was allowing them to properly lead and so.. the list of focused members was forwarded.
- Virus was not disbanned, people are forgetting this, if Finny was half as bad as some are trying to portrait him as, he'd have just hit the disban button. He didn't and neither did Ag's... that IMO was respectable.

as for the yes part, Finny and Ag's I'm sure will receive a swarm of flame and why mails. Those they will have to deal with but let it be known that I will defend their character here on the externals and ShAve if needed (or asked for) will defend their accounts within the game.
 

slinkiestwizard

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waves 2u said:
yes and no, Finny is ShAve now... therefore we (ShAve) will as always, work as a team. Finny is getting the brunt of this and it was expected yes but there are truths that haven't been spoken.

The truth is simple:
- A few of his former tribe members feel abandoned. Most of us have been there and can relate.
- Leadership takes time, focus and sacrifice. His, nor Ag's real life was allowing them to properly lead and so.. the list of focused members was forwarded.
- Virus was not disbanned, people are forgetting this, if Finny was half as bad as some are trying to portrait him as, he'd have just hit the disban button. He didn't and neither did Ag's... that IMO was respectable.

as for the yes part, Finny and Ag's I'm sure will receive a swarm of flame and why mails. Those they will have to deal with but let it be known that I will defend their character here on the externals and ShAve if needed (or asked for) will defend their accounts within the game.
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The red is a Given as hes now family
 

DeletedUser

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I'm going to go against the grain here. Shave is supposedly selective. There is nothing selective in this merge. You might as well make a family tribe out of the rest.

I use the example below because Modwar was used in another thread about recruiting refugees.

W59 Shave

Created: 2011-10-13 06:06:07
Tribe Changes: 184

W42 Modwar

Created: Unknown
Tribe Changes: 173
 

slinkiestwizard

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Red Power Ranger said:
I'm going to go against the grain here. Shave is supposedly selective. There is nothing selective in this merge. You might as well make a family tribe out of the rest.

I use the example below because Modwar was used in another thread about recruiting refugees.

W59 Shave

Created: 2011-10-13 06:06:07
Tribe Changes: 184

W42 Modwar

Created: Unknown
Tribe Changes: 173
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While your at it count the players that left (were kicked for inactivity) then the players that left for there own reasons to return to shave .
If shave was a mass merge tribe they wouldnt have remained with so few players so long . The players invited were selected , now if those players came from 1 tribe lets say thats still not a merge as Virus has not been disband .
The leaders have left and the tribe is still intact so you may go against the grain if you choose to but ,based on merger that tribe would have been disband for a feeding frenzy if t was a merge

*W 42 has nothing to do with here so i dont even no why i wasted my time with this responce
 
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waves 2u said:
yes and no, Finny is ShAve now... therefore we (ShAve) will as always, work as a team. Finny is getting the brunt of this and it was expected yes but there are truths that haven't been spoken.

The truth is simple:
- A few of his former tribe members feel abandoned. Most of us have been there and can relate.
- Leadership takes time, focus and sacrifice. His, nor Ag's real life was allowing them to properly lead and so.. the list of focused members was forwarded.
- Virus was not disbanned, people are forgetting this, if Finny was half as bad as some are trying to portrait him as, he'd have just hit the disban button. He didn't and neither did Ag's... that IMO was respectable.

as for the yes part, Finny and Ag's I'm sure will receive a swarm of flame and why mails. Those they will have to deal with but let it be known that I will defend their character here on the externals and ShAve if needed (or asked for) will defend their accounts within the game.
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I can only assume he didn't cause he didn't want to have cats aimed at him. LOL.

He couldn't lead cause he didn't have time. So he thought "the last thing i do is to BS my tribe" Great work lol.

Shave, the new massinvite tribe in the SE :icon_redface:
 

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slinkiestwizard said:
While your at it count the players that left (were kicked for inactivity) then the players that left for there own reasons to return to shave .
If shave was a mass merge tribe they wouldnt have remained with so few players so long . The players invited were selected , now if those players came from 1 tribe lets say thats still not a merge as Virus has not been disband .
The leaders have left and the tribe is still intact so you may go against the grain if you choose to but ,based on merger that tribe would have been disband for a feeding frenzy if t was a merge

*W 42 has nothing to do with here so i dont even no why i wasted my time with this responce
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Tribe changes are all that counts. You response is ridiculous
 

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henrik338 said:
I can only assume he didn't cause he didn't want to have cats aimed at him. LOL.

He couldn't lead cause he didn't have time. So he thought "the last thing i do is to BS my tribe" Great work lol.

Shave, the new massinvite tribe in the SE :icon_redface:
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henrik i think if this was preplanned his villages would have been stacked to just destroy the rest of the nukes left in Virus , actually he was nice to leave the tribe intact . If he didnt have the time then he left someone to run the tribe and moved on then he did the tribe a favor.

Personally i dont see anything wrong with that . If the leadership would have stepped down do to not having the time would it have benefited the tribe any better ?

Ill answer my own question for you as ive seen it happen many times.

No players would have found new tribes to go to due to the instability of the tribe anyway , It happened in Sick after a Co duke had a meltdown . It took all of 24 hours

From what i see here there are members left in Virus who care im sure they can reorganize the tribe ......anyway the last Virus tribe that counted for anything was W 12 that name should have been left there with the remnants of that tribe anyway
 
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