the falling of CMFAM

DeletedUser

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Yes we have been under pressure form XiG on many fronts. We have recently signed a NAP with XiG.

Hawg/Beldin can you please confirm whether XiGRB have the same diplomacy as XiG

ie If an alliance tribe had a NAP with XiG would they still be free to attack XiGRB?

Thanks
 

DeletedUser

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I never heard of a NAP, and will also not make it.

You've challened us twice, and backstabbed us (RB-fractions). You were screaming from high to low that we would be attacked and would suffer again. Now we do what you wanted: we fight.

I did reach my hand in the beginning, you slapped it away, now you may find that hand slapping Cmfam.

Grtz
Beldin
 

DeletedUser4328

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Beldin said:
I never heard of a NAP, and will also not make it.

You've challened us twice, and backstabbed us (RB-fractions). You were screaming from high to low that we would be attacked and would suffer again. Now we do what you wanted: we fight.

I did reach my hand in the beginning, you slapped it away, now you may find that hand slapping Cmfam.

Grtz
Beldin
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Thems fighting words :icon_razz:
 

DeletedUser

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Beldin said:
I never heard of a NAP, and will also not make it.

You've challened us twice, and backstabbed us (RB-fractions). You were screaming from high to low that we would be attacked and would suffer again. Now we do what you wanted: we fight.

I did reach my hand in the beginning, you slapped it away, now you may find that hand slapping Cmfam.

Grtz
Beldin
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Fancy words Beldin, but not quite true. I told you that we would not recognise different diplomacy levels within one tribal family.

Thanks for the reply, it makes things interesting.

Cheers
 

DeletedUser

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dreid said:
Fancy words Beldin, but not quite true. I told you that we would not recognise different diplomacy levels within one tribal family.

Thanks for the reply, it makes things interesting.

Cheers
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if you didn't want this to happen you just had to say the NAP was still intact
but even before the NAP was dissolved we had incoming attacks
don't know why but that is also a reason for me to say no to a NAP
 

DeletedUser

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XigRB did kepe the NAP till about 1 week after the merge, since then incoming attacks became too numerous. We've given the Cmfam leaders time to let us stay NAP, but they were thinking: let's kill them.

Well, to kill 'them', you have to kill us all.

Grtz
Beldin
 

Evando

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These skirmishes are further strenthening XIGs power in the south i have yet to see any retalition by CMFAMs tribe leaders yet they seem to be busy swallowing up inactives
 

DeletedUser2730

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Beldin can speak for himself. If Rb does not want to stop attacking Cmfam they dont have too. Beldin has already expressed that RB is going to do what RB wants to do. Even though they carry XiG in there name we do not regard them as a merge as Beldin expressed his concerns to me. So i am sure they will be dropping the XiG in front of their name soon. Not to be confused with XiG as they always will be their own entity. I can say this as bolaar made the merge because he saw it best for some reason but after my first real conversation with beldin I see it best as allies and not merged. Hope this clears up any questions tribes have about RB attacking them.

Hawg
 

DeletedUser

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warhawg said:
Beldin can speak for himself. If Rb does not want to stop attacking Cmfam they dont have too. Beldin has already expressed that RB is going to do what RB wants to do. Even though they carry XiG in there name we do not regard them as a merge as Beldin expressed his concerns to me. So i am sure they will be dropping the XiG in front of their name soon. Not to be confused with XiG as they always will be their own entity. I can say this as bolaar made the merge because he saw it best for some reason but after my first real conversation with beldin I see it best as allies and not merged. Hope this clears up any questions tribes have about RB attacking them.

Hawg
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Thank you, that clears things up. I do apologise for doing this on the forum, should have handled with IGMs.

Cheers
 
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DeletedUser

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All becasue I don't agree with your merge of Xig-STw, to form CEG.
It's nice to hear how the leadership of Xig went with you.

Didn't you yourself state some days ago: Cmfam will be attacked. We don't make a NAP.
Suddenly I hear from some Cmfamers that you ahve made a NAP, without any duke of Xig knowing it.

You didn't even announce the NAP with Stw yet to us. You've never discussed things with your own aristocrats, did never announce something. You said you sent a mail about it. Well, I checked my inbox, and so far I didn't receive such mal from you yet.

You're jsut angry becasue about 40% of Xig already refuses to do such merge.

Grtz
Beldin
 
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DeletedUser

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I do indeed think about leaving Xig again. You know I'm not in for a merge. So if you would merge with Stw, then I leave the tribe. That's what I stated.
If you want to kick me out of Xig, then you will first have to convince the other dukes of Xig to do so.

I know you don't like me. Perhaps becasue I pointed out some things that were going wrong? I know people don't like criticism, but admit this:
If your own fractions don't get to know things about diplomacy, don't know things about NAPs and alliances, how do you want them to then agree with everything?

- I've never had a mail from you in my inbox about a NAP with Stw (altough, not as far as I did look, I checked 7 days)
- I have never heard a thing from you about NAP with Cmfam, since even you stated a bit earlier: we won't make it with them.

Grtz
Beldin
 

DeletedUser5974

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Evando said:
These skirmishes are further strenthening XIGs power in the south i have yet to see any retalition by CMFAMs tribe leaders yet they seem to be busy swallowing up inactives
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NOpe not inactives

if you were in cmfam you wouldnt have said that.

a lot is happening in the tribe.Tyrone left because of real life issues and all.
So we had some probelms with some things and all as he was the main head duke.. With tyrone leaving lot of bad things happened as some areas became difficult.
 

Evando

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Beldin said:
I do indeed think about leaving Xig again. You know I'm not in for a merge. So if you would merge with Stw, then I leave the tribe. That's what I stated.
If you want to kick me out of Xig, then you will first have to convince the other dukes of Xig to do so.

I know you don't like me. Perhaps becasue I pointed out some things that were going wrong? I know people don't like criticism, but admit this:
If your own fractions don't get to know things about diplomacy, don't know things about NAPs and alliances, how do you want them to then agree with everything?

- I've never had a mail from you in my inbox about a NAP with Stw (altough, not as far as I did look, I checked 7 days)
- I have never heard a thing from you about NAP with Cmfam, since even you stated a bit earlier: we won't make it with them.

Grtz
Beldin
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Im on Beldins side for this one if STW and XIG merged it would end up
All of XIGs north clusters joining main STW factions
All of STWs south clusters joining main XIG factions
and CEG dominating the world

I think this world still has much to offer and would like to see the winners of this world in the end fight for every square and village instead of joining with their biggest threat and taking out all the smaller tribes
 

DeletedUser137

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All the links are about-blank to me so can someone post the relevant detail plz.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
i think twplus is out again
it is running slow for some weeks now and several times it was down
but the link works here it only takes 2 minutes to load :S
 

DeletedUser

Guest
why the hell would anyone want an NAP with CMFAM? Beldin, keep ripping into them. Good work.
 

thedevilinme

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Well Beldin/Warhawg can you make a decision soon about whether RB is part of XIG. We in HOT have RB down as an NAP because of the XIG merger yet i am in the process of sorting a breaking of that NAP with an RB member where there now appears to be no NAP with RB. If we have RB as NAP's yet RB don't have us it puts us at a disadvantage.
 
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