Bloodhood
Part of the Furniture
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On the weekend of the 23rd of May, heavy attacks came in from both [CRY], BD and also Draco. BD and [CRY] claim that this was a short term response due to HAM!!!s sniping? and arrogance?, and lets not forget recruiting?!
Fraser yea also says:
No co-ordination he says, he says it is HAM!!!s fault for attacking in the last couple of weeks (which was a response to them on a player level, which he also denies).
He goes further here, in a much more aggressive tone, it is rubbish he says, I'm lying, and I'm full of it.
As you can see, complete denial between BD leadership and Fraseryea of any co-ordination, and the fact that this was not planned months in advance.
So, on to more exciting matters. BD and [CRY], I must say, in their experience of knowing the word always gets out, have covered themselves in this amazingly, it was extremely difficult to get hold of anything at all, only bits from Draco forum in where they talk about BD and CRY attacking on the weekend.
However, Fraser did open his mouth a little too many times, which is shown when talking below to a player called Aleksi Annala, a.k.a. Leisereiter, leader of Die. A tribe that was aproached about this all, though in response to the plan on HAM!!! showed himself the only honourable one in all of this to say "it wouldn't be a feather to cap destroy ham!! with like quarter of top 10 already warring you (BD,Crysis,TWC(supporting CRY)then those few other tribes Beyond and Draco family?". The conversation below show him speaking to CRY leader and BD ally Fraseryeah.
[26.4.2009 19:15:23] Fraseryeah: ok good.
[26.4.2009 19:15:35] Fraseryeah: yes, indeed, Pajuno wants your K
[26.4.2009 19:15:40] Aleksi Annala: I know..
[26.4.2009 19:15:42] Fraseryeah: all of them infact
[26.4.2009 19:15:52] Aleksi Annala: Ham , frow too?
[26.4.2009 19:15:57] Fraseryeah: and yes, as soon as =RSSR= is finished, you guys are next
[26.4.2009 19:16:14] Fraseryeah: most likley, thay are all as thick as thieves
[26.4.2009 19:39:22] Fraseryeah: we are only pushing south untill we can take ham and paj down
[26.4.2009 19:39:43] Fraseryeah: we will be happy to expand west, and share k64 with you
[26.4.2009 19:40:18] Aleksi Annala: Our goal is to get south west for us and same time get closer to the core
[26.4.2009 19:40:50] Aleksi Annala: First of all.. when we declare on phoenx.. If cry does it too.. Ham will go crazy about it..
[26.4.2009 19:40:59] Fraseryeah: the only way you are going to do that, is to take phoenix and ham down, your going to need our help for that
[26.4.2009 19:23:16] Aleksi Annala: Ham is nap with Cry right?
[26.4.2009 19:23:20] Fraseryeah: now, i cannot say who, but a higher power from the north wants HAM gone, and paj and co also
[26.4.2009 19:23:25] Fraseryeah: no
[26.4.2009 19:23:36] Fraseryeah: we have no relation at all with ham
[26.4.2009 19:24:11] Aleksi Annala: Okay
[26.4.2009 19:24:15] Aleksi Annala: us neither
[26.4.2009 19:24:41] Aleksi Annala: i ment we dont have with them any kind of diplomacy.
[26.4.2009 19:25:00] Fraseryeah: anyway, we have a very strong relationship, with this higher power from the north ( repete this and i will be very very angry ) but we are going to work with them, to delete HAM
[26.4.2009 19:25:32] Fraseryeah: not yet though, bt soon
[26.4.2009 19:26:11] Aleksi Annala: Well, we were very curious about Ham soon marching on us with Phoenx and frow those 3 tribes are linked with each other.. R.inc too i quess..
[26.4.2009 19:26:12] Fraseryeah: if i were you, i'd forget about warring in k75, and look to head north asap
The two most important quotes in this are "now, i cannot say who, but a higher power from the north wants HAM gone, and paj and co also" and "nyway, we have a very strong relationship, with this higher power from the north ( repete this and i will be very very angry ) but we are going to work with them, to delete HAM".
Very little has two lines ever said so much.
The first one, they call them "a higher power from the north". That can only be BD, north, is only BD. The only north tribe, to be attacking and higher than CRY, o yea, BD. There is no doubt of this. But the fact that he was being so vague, yet not vague enough, speaks more than he possibly thought it would. It shows how BD have tried to cover this up, they have tried to show that it is not them involved, tried to show this is an individual war, tried to say it is HAM!!!s fault. But this quote shows how they have tried to, but now failed in trying to not reveal their hand in all of this. Fraser also speaks about BD-CRYs very strong relationship, (an alliance at tribe or leadership level) which BD denied in the other thread.
BD claimed that this war was a huge amount about R.inc refugees.
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The conversation between Fraser and the Die. leader was 26/04. That's a month before the war started, an two weeks before R.inc players even joined!
The BD leader when I said I could prove it, tried to cover his tracks, several BD players responded just to a couple of lines of me writing, saying my reputation was falling, that I was acting like BBs, that I had no proof?
Covering his tracks, was because he knew very well that something was going on, he knew very well that I could get information, or why would he have written this. He knew that I have no way of getting information that was passed between Fraser and BD leadership, because I cannot possibly, it is an impossibility for me to do so. He knows that I knew, and I knew the he knew this. This is the closest information could possibly come.
So judge for yourself, to me this is direct proof that Fraseryeah is lying, and to me, already knowint they were allies, as I claimed, it backs up everything I have said, and also shows BD to be lying. In my eye's the credibility and reputation of BDs leaders is in tatters. They have been highly disrespectful to myself, my players, and lied, cheated, and went against everything that BD would like themselves to stand for.
BD you may be winning the war, and you may be damn good at it, (though with the help of a few tools made illegal), but you have lied, you have completely torn up any credibility you have had.
HAM!!! will not fall, we will not bow down for you, and we will keep fighting, even in this most disgusting of P&P and manoeuvre by BD and Fraseryeah.
edit: For any trying to question the validity of my proof, they may see Fraser's post on the third page:
As said...
Thanks
HAM!!!
Blood
BD had problems with HAM incursions, recruiting and cockiness. I am hearing from Fraser that they had the same problems in CRY, even incomings from HAM. I have no idea how much they see this as an war against HAM or they are simply removing HAM from their areas. Also, BD are not related in anyway with Draco or Beyond or whomever else might attack them. Those are their continent domination wars they did not finish in due time.
Fraser yea also says:
For the record.
Crysis attack on HAM!!! is about K54, nothing more nothing less.
Yes HAM!! stated or claimed owneship of K54, We were still finishing off R.Inc, and i told HAM!!! i wanted to finish the job we started. (you have the same stance about the ex Boo! players, so you KNOW what i am talking about Bloodhound.
HAM!!! have been attacking the Crysis players in k54 for a couple of weeks now, and after Arianahpowah moved into k65 (Yes he did mail me and ask me if it was ok to do so ,i respect that and appeciate it. but what was i going to say, No? this is ArianahPowah we are talking about here, lol) i said enough was enough.
anyways my point being, Crysis have our own agendah, as do BD. We are not double teaming HAM!!! and we have not teamed up to take them out, its just unfortunate that HAM!!! have crossed the pathes of both tribes at the same time.
Its all about territory, We want the remainder of the R.Inc targets and you will not stop us.
Arianahpowah, Well defended and well played, you truley are great player.
I finally have a challange and i am greatfull for it , it will make me a better player i am sure.
Having said all that, its a game, but it aint Cim City.
If you want to Cry about a Crysis, go and Cry to the RS family, becouse we are taking them on at the same time.
We do not feel the need to make war declerations, Crysis is not about Stats or rankings, we are about war. We might not be the most efficent attackers, BD will walk the floor on us in that department, they are the Eliete (they are a super power you should all fear ) but we dont give up. We will not be pushed around and we will not back down.
Bloodhound, i emplor you to retort, i am sure i will find it amuseing.
As for your stance , Bloodhound, for the inactivity and exsams and such, guess what.. you not the lone soldior there either mate, i will admitt we have the same problem, so its even stevens there matey .
Good luck to everyone.
No co-ordination he says, he says it is HAM!!!s fault for attacking in the last couple of weeks (which was a response to them on a player level, which he also denies).
Bloodhound, your full of it mate, your men have been attacking Crysis players in k54 for 2 weeks now.. what did you want us to bend over so you could jamn it in a little further?
you brought in apon yourself, and thats a fact, all this rubbish about Cry and BD teaming up on you is rubbish and you know it.
He goes further here, in a much more aggressive tone, it is rubbish he says, I'm lying, and I'm full of it.
As you can see, complete denial between BD leadership and Fraseryea of any co-ordination, and the fact that this was not planned months in advance.
So, on to more exciting matters. BD and [CRY], I must say, in their experience of knowing the word always gets out, have covered themselves in this amazingly, it was extremely difficult to get hold of anything at all, only bits from Draco forum in where they talk about BD and CRY attacking on the weekend.
However, Fraser did open his mouth a little too many times, which is shown when talking below to a player called Aleksi Annala, a.k.a. Leisereiter, leader of Die. A tribe that was aproached about this all, though in response to the plan on HAM!!! showed himself the only honourable one in all of this to say "it wouldn't be a feather to cap destroy ham!! with like quarter of top 10 already warring you (BD,Crysis,TWC(supporting CRY)then those few other tribes Beyond and Draco family?". The conversation below show him speaking to CRY leader and BD ally Fraseryeah.
[26.4.2009 19:15:23] Fraseryeah: ok good.
[26.4.2009 19:15:35] Fraseryeah: yes, indeed, Pajuno wants your K
[26.4.2009 19:15:40] Aleksi Annala: I know..
[26.4.2009 19:15:42] Fraseryeah: all of them infact
[26.4.2009 19:15:52] Aleksi Annala: Ham , frow too?
[26.4.2009 19:15:57] Fraseryeah: and yes, as soon as =RSSR= is finished, you guys are next
[26.4.2009 19:16:14] Fraseryeah: most likley, thay are all as thick as thieves
[26.4.2009 19:39:22] Fraseryeah: we are only pushing south untill we can take ham and paj down
[26.4.2009 19:39:43] Fraseryeah: we will be happy to expand west, and share k64 with you
[26.4.2009 19:40:18] Aleksi Annala: Our goal is to get south west for us and same time get closer to the core
[26.4.2009 19:40:50] Aleksi Annala: First of all.. when we declare on phoenx.. If cry does it too.. Ham will go crazy about it..
[26.4.2009 19:40:59] Fraseryeah: the only way you are going to do that, is to take phoenix and ham down, your going to need our help for that
[26.4.2009 19:23:16] Aleksi Annala: Ham is nap with Cry right?
[26.4.2009 19:23:20] Fraseryeah: now, i cannot say who, but a higher power from the north wants HAM gone, and paj and co also
[26.4.2009 19:23:25] Fraseryeah: no
[26.4.2009 19:23:36] Fraseryeah: we have no relation at all with ham
[26.4.2009 19:24:11] Aleksi Annala: Okay
[26.4.2009 19:24:15] Aleksi Annala: us neither
[26.4.2009 19:24:41] Aleksi Annala: i ment we dont have with them any kind of diplomacy.
[26.4.2009 19:25:00] Fraseryeah: anyway, we have a very strong relationship, with this higher power from the north ( repete this and i will be very very angry ) but we are going to work with them, to delete HAM
[26.4.2009 19:25:32] Fraseryeah: not yet though, bt soon
[26.4.2009 19:26:11] Aleksi Annala: Well, we were very curious about Ham soon marching on us with Phoenx and frow those 3 tribes are linked with each other.. R.inc too i quess..
[26.4.2009 19:26:12] Fraseryeah: if i were you, i'd forget about warring in k75, and look to head north asap
The two most important quotes in this are "now, i cannot say who, but a higher power from the north wants HAM gone, and paj and co also" and "nyway, we have a very strong relationship, with this higher power from the north ( repete this and i will be very very angry ) but we are going to work with them, to delete HAM".
Very little has two lines ever said so much.
The first one, they call them "a higher power from the north". That can only be BD, north, is only BD. The only north tribe, to be attacking and higher than CRY, o yea, BD. There is no doubt of this. But the fact that he was being so vague, yet not vague enough, speaks more than he possibly thought it would. It shows how BD have tried to cover this up, they have tried to show that it is not them involved, tried to show this is an individual war, tried to say it is HAM!!!s fault. But this quote shows how they have tried to, but now failed in trying to not reveal their hand in all of this. Fraser also speaks about BD-CRYs very strong relationship, (an alliance at tribe or leadership level) which BD denied in the other thread.
BD claimed that this war was a huge amount about R.inc refugees.
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These players as you can see joined later 07/05.
The conversation between Fraser and the Die. leader was 26/04. That's a month before the war started, an two weeks before R.inc players even joined!
The BD leader when I said I could prove it, tried to cover his tracks, several BD players responded just to a couple of lines of me writing, saying my reputation was falling, that I was acting like BBs, that I had no proof?
I look forward to your "proof" that we are allies with all of these tribes, or that we as a tribe are coordinating whole scale with these other tribes. Remember, I am the duke of BD in charge of external relations, meaning you're going to need to find something with my name, or the name of any other leader in BD on stamped on it acknowledging a working coordination between tribes or an attempt to bring other tribes in to this fight.
Covering his tracks, was because he knew very well that something was going on, he knew very well that I could get information, or why would he have written this. He knew that I have no way of getting information that was passed between Fraser and BD leadership, because I cannot possibly, it is an impossibility for me to do so. He knows that I knew, and I knew the he knew this. This is the closest information could possibly come.
So judge for yourself, to me this is direct proof that Fraseryeah is lying, and to me, already knowint they were allies, as I claimed, it backs up everything I have said, and also shows BD to be lying. In my eye's the credibility and reputation of BDs leaders is in tatters. They have been highly disrespectful to myself, my players, and lied, cheated, and went against everything that BD would like themselves to stand for.
BD you may be winning the war, and you may be damn good at it, (though with the help of a few tools made illegal), but you have lied, you have completely torn up any credibility you have had.
HAM!!! will not fall, we will not bow down for you, and we will keep fighting, even in this most disgusting of P&P and manoeuvre by BD and Fraseryeah.
edit: For any trying to question the validity of my proof, they may see Fraser's post on the third page:
As said...
That converstion you quoted was in fact 5 weeks and 2 days ago
Thanks
HAM!!!
Blood
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