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The Once and Future South
Brothers and Sisters,
Your Council has been debating our current and future relationships with F.D and her sister tribe Fenix, and we have decided that, in keeping with [DT] Council’s tradition of and commitment to informing our membership of our situation in the world , we should share with you all that has happened with these two tribes over the last several months.
The Council is well aware that the contents of this message may leak to F.D and Fenix, perhaps with adverse consequences for our relationship with either or both tribes. However, unlike many tribes both past and present, [DT]’s Council will not - nor has it ever - hidden our intentions from our members; especially now as we stand together upon the very threshold of the greatest war this world shall ever see.
The complete story is rather involved and somewhat Byzantine, so we will provide a synopsis here. Rest assured that after reading it, should any of you have any questions, you can contact any member of the Council and we’ll get answers to you. Note that much of this is cold, hard solid fact – some of it is reconstructed based on the best intelligence we’ve been able to gather – none of it, however is speculative or we wouldn’t be sharing it with you. It’s rather lengthy, so grab some beer and chips, and away we go …
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Some time ago, it came to the attention of the Council that iubi29 (then of F.D) was multi-accounting (using more than one account strictly for her own benefit and, not coincidentally, strictly against the rules and in violation of every precept of fair play) by using anonymous logins for each account – essentially impossible for the moderators to trace, much less to levy punishment. Subsequently, the Council learned that she had been abetted by a prominent member of Fenix and shown how to multi-account by using proxy IPs.
When [DT] Council became aware of this situation, we corresponded with various members of F.D's leadership, in particular and most fruitfully Black Talons (former Diplomat and Baroness of F.D) and Azrix Nightfire (Former Co-Duke of F.D – since resigned from the game), both of these players were outraged at the blatant cheating of their member and they were assured from their top leadership, and in their turn so assured us, that the problem was being handled.
At that time, we had a relatively solid and (we thought) mutually respectful relationship with the leadership of F.D, so the Council not unreasonably believed that F.D would pursue the honorable course with this player; kick and noble her out. We respectfully stood back with that expectation. Our expectation could not have been more wrong.
Weeks passed without any resolution, or even movement towards a resolution, to the problem and it became regrettably clear that a highly-placed member of F.D’s leadership had his own agenda and was consistently blocking every effort by lower-ranked members of F.D’s hierarchy to do the right thing. The player who so disgracefully behaved in this manner was none other than their Head Duke, Redlance.
Eventually, after a great deal of pressure from many within and outside of his tribe urging him to keep faith with F.D’s highest standards, Redlance had no choice but to kick Iubi29 from F.D. She immediately caused the tribe "Banana Smoking Monkeys" (a now defunct tribe we will henceforth call BSM) to be formed, and multiple accounts were promptly - and suspiciously - recruited from F.D to join her there. It should be noted that throughout this process, and despite being briefed by the leadership of F.D (and, presumably, Iubi29 herself), Fenix – F.D’s self-appointed “closest ally” – never disavowed Iubi29 or her behavior, nor took any stance on the matter other than full, unqualified support of a known cheater.
Why should they have done so? The answer is … troubling.
Fenix’s leadership had long planned, through top-level negotiations with Redlance, to have F.D join them in declaring war on first [DT] (and more particularly members of our Council), and then KNT (hence their current allied status with KNT – later to be broken). They wanted to keep Iubi29 in the game because of the number of accounts she personally controlled. When Iubi29 was kicked from F.D, Fenix had to hurriedly alter their plan; having Iubi29 setting up a separate tribe with many of her sat/multi-accounts, defending her from rimming from her former tribe’s now-divided leadership and preserving her viability for future operations against [DT]. Fenix’s hope was that they could use BSM to attack [DT] first, and when [DT] responded (as we assuredly would), hope that the F.D members who were paying attention would notice that their former tribemates were getting slaughtered by [DT] and “pressure” Redlance to go to war with us. Fenix would “reluctantly” join their ally F.D in attacking [DT], and cloud the real issue to the point where – they hoped – KNT would decline to take sides. Fenix and F.D would be then free to attempt to take down the finest tribe in the world with a combination of traditional warfare and their “secret weapon;” multi-accounts controlled by one player.
The plan might have worked, except they didn’t count on a couple of F.D players retaking control of their accounts after being alerted of the peculiar goings on – Bulgaria7 being among them (at the time of his account’s move to BSM he was being sat) – and moving from BSM back to F.D and ultimately to [DT]. Their plan was now exposed, so there was no further need for this Potemkin Tribe to continue to exist. BSM disbanded and Iubi29 went to … wait for it … Fenix, despite the protestations of F.D; the tribe with which Fenix have continually claimed they are most closely allied, most respectful of, most etc. etc. As you all know, Iubi29 became a member of Fenix only after Fenix rattled their sabers at F.D and bullied their leadership into accepting Iubi29's membership into Fenix as a fait accompli.
Please note dear tribemates, that throughout all of this drama Iubi29 was, at that time, still unsanctioned AT ALL by the moderators. Please also note – Fenix risked their “very special alliance” with F.D for the sake of one player who was cheating to such a degree as to affront every honest player, past and present, who has ever been involved in W8.
Fenix moved quickly to divert attention from their betrayal of the alliance and, with the help of Redlance, sought to find a scapegoat on which they could lay much of the blame for the deteriorating relationships with [DT] and KNT and their bungling of the entire Iubi29 fiasco. Unfortunately for them, they chose a player with whom many in [DT] Council have had a long and productive relationship – Black Talons. The Council had worked closely with Black Talons in her capacity as the diplomat of F.D, and we can say without reservation that she worked tirelessly and brilliantly for the benefit of her F.D members in all of her negotiations with [DT]. Black Talons approached [DT] – backed by many F.D members who were uneasy with what was happening at the top of F.D’s leadership - with the idea of a possible merge with F.D – and she fought to keep all of her tribe as viable members, not just the best ones, or the most active. She was foresighted enough to see where Redlance was leading F.D, and understandably wanted no part of it. For her trouble, for her concern with all the members of her tribe, for her tireless work for the benefit of Redlance and his lackeys, Black Talons was branded a traitor and a turncoat.
An absurd accusation.
Aside from her demonstrated grace, honor and dignity, Black Talons is also the beloved wife of woohoodave00 and a personal friend to many in our Council. We know her to be a player to whom the phrase “my word is my bond” is much more than simply a saying, but a way of life. When it became clear, through the machinations of Redlance and Fenix, that she and the tribe that she loved was being maneuvered into an untenable, unwinnable situation she attempted to save as many of her tribe as she could when it became abundantly clear that Redlance would not let her save them all.
[DT] received damning information proving that Redlance was not only plotting with Fenix against [DT], but also against Black Talons personally; Redlance planned to boot her and rim her. We also managed to obtain a copy of a very interesting chat log in which Redlance spoke of his utter hate of [DT] and his wishes for the future. We can guarantee that his unguarded comments about our tribe were less than complimentary, and entirely delusional.
Black Talons left F.D and joined KNT as her position had become impossible, especially knowing that those she had trusted had plotted and schemed behind her back, in the hope of not only removing her, but in joining Fenix and F.D in a war against [DT]. The cherry on top of this particular Sundae happened when we received information that Fenix had also approached Myriad asking them to join in a Grand Alliance against us.
Iubi29 was - eventually - banned for a short time, but even the circumstances surrounding this are somewhat suspect, Redlance claims to be the one who eventually reported her, but no one has yet to see proof of this, rumors also abound that she had someone report her, in order to not only deflect further accusations and investigations against her, but to calm any F.D members who were angered by her cheating, and who may have been thinking of leaving F.D. Further, that a deal had been made between Fenix and Redlance that if Iubi29 accepted her ban, F.D would kick Black Talons and allow Fenix to attack her.
Some of the members of F.D that shared with us much of the information you have just read have since left that tribe, and Azrix Nightfire (former co-Duke of F.D, an extraordinary stand-up guy and a close friend to some of our Council) deleted his account in disgust at the behavior of certain members of F.D & Fenix’s leadership, others left and have since joined [DT] or KNT.
The Council of [DT], having digested this information and despite everything that had happened still wanting to respect the NAP, then wrote to Redlance to gain his views on the situation and see if there was any way we could salvage our relationship and his honor. We received no substantive reply.
That letter was written on Wednesday, the 5th of August.
The truly regrettable thing in all of this is that the majority of F.D and Fenix players are decent, quality people (You know this! You chat with them on a daily basis.) However, they have not only been kept in the dark, but they’ve consistently been fed lies by their respective Dukes.
We can assure our members that we have seen proof of every assertion we’ve just made to you, much of which, to protect our sources, we cannot show in a public forum. We thought that you – members of the finest tribe that will ever call this world home – should know what’s really been going on.
Regards
The Council of [DT]
Brothers and Sisters,
Your Council has been debating our current and future relationships with F.D and her sister tribe Fenix, and we have decided that, in keeping with [DT] Council’s tradition of and commitment to informing our membership of our situation in the world , we should share with you all that has happened with these two tribes over the last several months.
The Council is well aware that the contents of this message may leak to F.D and Fenix, perhaps with adverse consequences for our relationship with either or both tribes. However, unlike many tribes both past and present, [DT]’s Council will not - nor has it ever - hidden our intentions from our members; especially now as we stand together upon the very threshold of the greatest war this world shall ever see.
The complete story is rather involved and somewhat Byzantine, so we will provide a synopsis here. Rest assured that after reading it, should any of you have any questions, you can contact any member of the Council and we’ll get answers to you. Note that much of this is cold, hard solid fact – some of it is reconstructed based on the best intelligence we’ve been able to gather – none of it, however is speculative or we wouldn’t be sharing it with you. It’s rather lengthy, so grab some beer and chips, and away we go …
__________________________________________________________________________
Some time ago, it came to the attention of the Council that iubi29 (then of F.D) was multi-accounting (using more than one account strictly for her own benefit and, not coincidentally, strictly against the rules and in violation of every precept of fair play) by using anonymous logins for each account – essentially impossible for the moderators to trace, much less to levy punishment. Subsequently, the Council learned that she had been abetted by a prominent member of Fenix and shown how to multi-account by using proxy IPs.
When [DT] Council became aware of this situation, we corresponded with various members of F.D's leadership, in particular and most fruitfully Black Talons (former Diplomat and Baroness of F.D) and Azrix Nightfire (Former Co-Duke of F.D – since resigned from the game), both of these players were outraged at the blatant cheating of their member and they were assured from their top leadership, and in their turn so assured us, that the problem was being handled.
At that time, we had a relatively solid and (we thought) mutually respectful relationship with the leadership of F.D, so the Council not unreasonably believed that F.D would pursue the honorable course with this player; kick and noble her out. We respectfully stood back with that expectation. Our expectation could not have been more wrong.
Weeks passed without any resolution, or even movement towards a resolution, to the problem and it became regrettably clear that a highly-placed member of F.D’s leadership had his own agenda and was consistently blocking every effort by lower-ranked members of F.D’s hierarchy to do the right thing. The player who so disgracefully behaved in this manner was none other than their Head Duke, Redlance.
Eventually, after a great deal of pressure from many within and outside of his tribe urging him to keep faith with F.D’s highest standards, Redlance had no choice but to kick Iubi29 from F.D. She immediately caused the tribe "Banana Smoking Monkeys" (a now defunct tribe we will henceforth call BSM) to be formed, and multiple accounts were promptly - and suspiciously - recruited from F.D to join her there. It should be noted that throughout this process, and despite being briefed by the leadership of F.D (and, presumably, Iubi29 herself), Fenix – F.D’s self-appointed “closest ally” – never disavowed Iubi29 or her behavior, nor took any stance on the matter other than full, unqualified support of a known cheater.
Why should they have done so? The answer is … troubling.
Fenix’s leadership had long planned, through top-level negotiations with Redlance, to have F.D join them in declaring war on first [DT] (and more particularly members of our Council), and then KNT (hence their current allied status with KNT – later to be broken). They wanted to keep Iubi29 in the game because of the number of accounts she personally controlled. When Iubi29 was kicked from F.D, Fenix had to hurriedly alter their plan; having Iubi29 setting up a separate tribe with many of her sat/multi-accounts, defending her from rimming from her former tribe’s now-divided leadership and preserving her viability for future operations against [DT]. Fenix’s hope was that they could use BSM to attack [DT] first, and when [DT] responded (as we assuredly would), hope that the F.D members who were paying attention would notice that their former tribemates were getting slaughtered by [DT] and “pressure” Redlance to go to war with us. Fenix would “reluctantly” join their ally F.D in attacking [DT], and cloud the real issue to the point where – they hoped – KNT would decline to take sides. Fenix and F.D would be then free to attempt to take down the finest tribe in the world with a combination of traditional warfare and their “secret weapon;” multi-accounts controlled by one player.
The plan might have worked, except they didn’t count on a couple of F.D players retaking control of their accounts after being alerted of the peculiar goings on – Bulgaria7 being among them (at the time of his account’s move to BSM he was being sat) – and moving from BSM back to F.D and ultimately to [DT]. Their plan was now exposed, so there was no further need for this Potemkin Tribe to continue to exist. BSM disbanded and Iubi29 went to … wait for it … Fenix, despite the protestations of F.D; the tribe with which Fenix have continually claimed they are most closely allied, most respectful of, most etc. etc. As you all know, Iubi29 became a member of Fenix only after Fenix rattled their sabers at F.D and bullied their leadership into accepting Iubi29's membership into Fenix as a fait accompli.
Please note dear tribemates, that throughout all of this drama Iubi29 was, at that time, still unsanctioned AT ALL by the moderators. Please also note – Fenix risked their “very special alliance” with F.D for the sake of one player who was cheating to such a degree as to affront every honest player, past and present, who has ever been involved in W8.
Fenix moved quickly to divert attention from their betrayal of the alliance and, with the help of Redlance, sought to find a scapegoat on which they could lay much of the blame for the deteriorating relationships with [DT] and KNT and their bungling of the entire Iubi29 fiasco. Unfortunately for them, they chose a player with whom many in [DT] Council have had a long and productive relationship – Black Talons. The Council had worked closely with Black Talons in her capacity as the diplomat of F.D, and we can say without reservation that she worked tirelessly and brilliantly for the benefit of her F.D members in all of her negotiations with [DT]. Black Talons approached [DT] – backed by many F.D members who were uneasy with what was happening at the top of F.D’s leadership - with the idea of a possible merge with F.D – and she fought to keep all of her tribe as viable members, not just the best ones, or the most active. She was foresighted enough to see where Redlance was leading F.D, and understandably wanted no part of it. For her trouble, for her concern with all the members of her tribe, for her tireless work for the benefit of Redlance and his lackeys, Black Talons was branded a traitor and a turncoat.
An absurd accusation.
Aside from her demonstrated grace, honor and dignity, Black Talons is also the beloved wife of woohoodave00 and a personal friend to many in our Council. We know her to be a player to whom the phrase “my word is my bond” is much more than simply a saying, but a way of life. When it became clear, through the machinations of Redlance and Fenix, that she and the tribe that she loved was being maneuvered into an untenable, unwinnable situation she attempted to save as many of her tribe as she could when it became abundantly clear that Redlance would not let her save them all.
[DT] received damning information proving that Redlance was not only plotting with Fenix against [DT], but also against Black Talons personally; Redlance planned to boot her and rim her. We also managed to obtain a copy of a very interesting chat log in which Redlance spoke of his utter hate of [DT] and his wishes for the future. We can guarantee that his unguarded comments about our tribe were less than complimentary, and entirely delusional.
Black Talons left F.D and joined KNT as her position had become impossible, especially knowing that those she had trusted had plotted and schemed behind her back, in the hope of not only removing her, but in joining Fenix and F.D in a war against [DT]. The cherry on top of this particular Sundae happened when we received information that Fenix had also approached Myriad asking them to join in a Grand Alliance against us.
Iubi29 was - eventually - banned for a short time, but even the circumstances surrounding this are somewhat suspect, Redlance claims to be the one who eventually reported her, but no one has yet to see proof of this, rumors also abound that she had someone report her, in order to not only deflect further accusations and investigations against her, but to calm any F.D members who were angered by her cheating, and who may have been thinking of leaving F.D. Further, that a deal had been made between Fenix and Redlance that if Iubi29 accepted her ban, F.D would kick Black Talons and allow Fenix to attack her.
Some of the members of F.D that shared with us much of the information you have just read have since left that tribe, and Azrix Nightfire (former co-Duke of F.D, an extraordinary stand-up guy and a close friend to some of our Council) deleted his account in disgust at the behavior of certain members of F.D & Fenix’s leadership, others left and have since joined [DT] or KNT.
The Council of [DT], having digested this information and despite everything that had happened still wanting to respect the NAP, then wrote to Redlance to gain his views on the situation and see if there was any way we could salvage our relationship and his honor. We received no substantive reply.
That letter was written on Wednesday, the 5th of August.
The truly regrettable thing in all of this is that the majority of F.D and Fenix players are decent, quality people (You know this! You chat with them on a daily basis.) However, they have not only been kept in the dark, but they’ve consistently been fed lies by their respective Dukes.
We can assure our members that we have seen proof of every assertion we’ve just made to you, much of which, to protect our sources, we cannot show in a public forum. We thought that you – members of the finest tribe that will ever call this world home – should know what’s really been going on.
Regards
The Council of [DT]
