The war between ~Wb~ and MB01

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I spent three pages worth of messages talking to frankchen trying to negotiate a peace settlement. Every word I said was true. The members of my tribe that really started this war no longer play. I have been kind of thrust forward as a temporary leader and am trying to lead this tribe until we find a new permanent leader.

I will thank you not to tarnish my reputation as everyone in the game who has dealt with me knows that I am a man of my word. When I was talking peace, I told my tribe to stop attacking. When frankchen told me he had no interest in peace whatsoever, I lifted that.

Instead of posting snippets, I can post the entire conversation if you'd like. I'm not afraid of truth.

-Wally
 
I knew frankchen said he was the first and last one to response on this thread, but I do have something to say:

walerian10, let me tell you a story of a tiger and brothers.

The Tiger and brothers lived closed to each other in peace. One day, 1 of the brothers said, "That stupid weak tiger always stare at me, I want its eyes." The other brother said, "yah, it has good fur too, I want it." And, the last brother said, "um.., its 3 against 1, we could kill it in no time." So one day, they decided to break the peace and attack the tiger."

On the first 3 days, they sent out over 1,000 waves of attacks, and yes they took a little piece of tiger's fur. They were very happy and celebrated the victory !! But they did not know that tiger is pissed off and very mad. So, he called for tiger family to help.

First counter coordinated attack from tigers against brothers, the tigers ripped one of the brother's arms, leg, body... and he almost die. The 2nd and 3rd coordinated attacks, tiger family ate 2 of those brothers' family members alive.

RIP brothers, the tiger said, we will help you to start your new life.

Wait a minute, one of the brother yelled. "We want peace!! I am sorry we attacked you. I am not the brother who was in charge of the attack. I don't know why and who attacked you. Can we have piece please?"

The tiger reply, I want my fur back. I want those who poked me be punished. In the mean time, the tiger is still hunting brothers' family and looking for their next target.

The brother said, I want peace. Why can't we be friends and lived in peace? The tiger said, "Sure, you can have peace, but you should drop the weapon, leave this bloody family at once, and do not support those who attacked me." However, the brothers seems not welling to do that. Instead, he went to town center and tell everyone that he tried so~~ hard to communicate with the tiger to have peace, but the tiger refused. At the mean time of the speech, few brothers' family are still attacking tigers.

The story is still going...... its not end yet.

What will the brothers do to ease the wound of the tiger?
What will brothers do to make sure all his family will be safe?

The answer is not here with tiger. If you want to know, ask those brothers, what are they thinking.


PS:
Can I have my fur back now?

jpyap & yang_ll, your attack from yesterday failed... I guess you knew it already. Do you still want peace? Or your account is sitting by someone else... again? So it has nothing to do with you? lamo..

warze & saula13, stop using village name to insult people, its premature.

Frankchen already sent all brothers a letter. The truth are all in it. Many of you already drop the weapon and leave that bloody family to star their new life. We will always be friends with them. Some even quit forever due to this betrayal war.

So, what would you do.
 
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You know ... they should not have been poking the tiger with swords, or rubbing their spears on non poisonous frogs in order to rid themselves of this fiendish tiger.

If they had only called on Little Black Sambo to turn him into butter, or Tarzan to kill the tiger, then they could have sold the fur on e-bay, or had pancakes for breakfast. What a bunch of dorks.

I don't think they should give up though.. people who run from their tribes are cowards, so why would the tiger want a coward to heal his wounds, or stroke his ego, unless of course he was planning to eat him all along? In this case ... if the tiger was going to eat you any ways.... at least you gave a valiant effort and died with dignity. Then again ..... it's never too late too eat pancakes....'wheres the butter!'
 
Jinzee said:
I don't think they should give up though.. people who run from their tribes are cowards, so why would the tiger want a coward to heal his wounds, or stroke his ego, unless of course he was planning to eat him all along? In this case ... if the tiger was going to eat you any ways.... at least you gave a valiant effort and died with dignity. Then again ..... it's never too late too eat pancakes....'wheres the butter!'
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There are still a few important points here. (in the story anyways xD) Speaking towards the story, now don't get offended.

People who run from their tribe are cowards. I agree. But if you are leaving for a decent reason, it might not be so. If you stay, and you fight for what you do not support, it is the same as leaving and going for what you do not support. To act out of fear or lack of thought is a very outrageous act if you ask me. If the brother did not know why he was attacking the tiger, then why did he attack? Do you act before you think? Do you kill before you think? Without a thought, how do you even imagine yourself surviving? Your actions determine your fate. So if you do not think, you will probably end up regretting.

To fight for what you value and what you care for is different though. Fight, join the enemy, or stay neutral. Why didn't the brother do that instead of mindlessly acting? He caused his own cease in existence.
 
Well ... since the tiger doesn't live with the brother he might not be telling the right story. Tiger or brother, either way... "Eat, or be eaten".

I think one of the worst things someone can do is to fight blindly, and then claim they didn't know what they were doing, only to join with the tiger and persue the hunt to eat his own brother. UNLESS.... the brother who perpetraited the tiger attack did so for the wrong reasons, and tricked his brother into procuring the tiger unjustly, and leaving him with the blame when PETA shows up.

I suppose there could be many scenarios.... rabid tiger, peristent poachers, shifty cartel, blackmail, etc...

One thing is certain.... there may not be any peace until they are all "dead" :icon_wink:
 
Jinzee, let me tell you one thing.

I love your real doll lol ...Body 5 ?


The tiger does not like war. As "Blue Monkey" said about brothers, they are mergers....They merged couple members who have been bitten by tigers before. That's why they hate tigers so much. However brothers did not know those people will lead their family to chaos and destruction.

I still believe there are many brothers in that family still like peace.
 
Warrior Brothers are going nowhere. We had a select few from other tribes join us, but we never had a full scale merge. My understanding from Jpyap before he left was that MB01 attacked us WHILE still allied with us. That was the tribal reason for war. That doesn't matter much now since we are warring and it apparently has no end right now, but I prefer to get truth in the open.

As to Jinzee, I did not see the reports, but this has been my first and only real tribe. Jpyap had never lied to me that I ever knew. The same went for our tribe. After 6 months here being his diplomat, I trusted him. Whatever the actual truth is, we may never know since he he is gone for good; but we would have followed him to hell. The war began and I assume his RL changed and he was gone.

I stepped up because I care about this tribe. I have the time to play, but my real life doesn't allow me the time to manage a 65 person tribe in the top 40. With Jp gone, we had members confused and upset, and they asked for peace. I spoke to frankchen about peace - which would have left both tribes in about the same state as before we began. He refused peace.

Anyone frankchen splinters off with his "sneaky subservice" mails, is a traitor and we are better without them.

We are now reorganizing the leadership and will be electing a new leader to replace myself. WB right now does not wish war. But if MB01 desires war, then it shall have war.
 
walerian10 said:
Warrior Brothers are going nowhere. We had a select few from other tribes join us, but we never had a full scale merge. My understanding from Jpyap before he left was that MB01 attacked us WHILE still allied with us. That was the tribal reason for war. That doesn't matter much now since we are warring and it apparently has no end right now, but I prefer to get truth in the open.

As to Jinzee, I did not see the reports, but this has been my first and only real tribe. Jpyap had never lied to me that I ever knew. The same went for our tribe. After 6 months here being his diplomat, I trusted him. Whatever the actual truth is, we may never know since he he is gone for good; but we would have followed him to hell. The war began and I assume his RL changed and he was gone.

I stepped up because I care about this tribe. I have the time to play, but my real life doesn't allow me the time to manage a 65 person tribe in the top 40. With Jp gone, we had members confused and upset, and they asked for peace. I spoke to frankchen about peace - which would have left both tribes in about the same state as before we began. He refused peace.

Anyone frankchen splinters off with his "sneaky subservice" mails, is a traitor and we are better without them.

We are now reorganizing the leadership and will be electing a new leader to replace myself. WB right now does not wish war. But if MB01 desires war, then it shall have war.
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I have a suggestion for you : STFU!!!!!

coz i get few attack by YOUR "LOVELY PEACEFULLY" TRIBE when you just post all this BS here.
anyone wish to have report? i can follow to you!

please STOP all this stxxid post we all know what and how your tribe r.
:icon_twisted: :swordsman:

for others in WB wish to peace...
I believe you all received mail from our leader.
If wish to peace then do what you have to do, to prove you wish to peace this war!
not just "SAYING"
 
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Yes... I'm a "doll"... that's why I'm so lovely...lol & Although Chanel (#5) is nice, I prefer Armani :icon_razz:

Tiger & Brothers... I haven't even looked to see what tribes you guys are in... I thought I'd keep opinion neutral by not looking, and just go with the story... which reminded me of The Jungle Book... not a bad story mind you, but without details, or accurate history, it's hard to know why one attacks the other.
 
Jinzee said:
Yes... I'm a "doll"... that's why I'm so lovely...lol & Although Chanel (#5) is nice, I prefer Armani :icon_razz:

Tiger & Brothers... I haven't even looked to see what tribes you guys are in... I thought I'd keep opinion neutral by not looking, and just go with the story... which reminded me of The Jungle Book... not a bad story mind you, but without details, or accurate history, it's hard to know why one attacks the other.
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Ya emporio armani is good, spesh since its 4 guys :icon_razz:

Obv theres 4 girls too... georgio :icon_biggrin:
 
Truth. What is a truth? because Jayap said MB01 attacked ~WB~ before they drop alliance, that was a truth? Did you even care about asking others of what happened?

Poor guy.... believe in whatever you wish to believe. There are not much room to negotiate then.

walerian10, I am glad Jayap did not tell you "Dog Shit is eatable."

What a waste of time chatting in here.

He did not tell you its eatable eh? or did he?
 
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infernal-mage-warrior said:
Ya emporio armani is good, spesh since its 4 guys :icon_razz:

Obv theres 4 girls too... georgio :icon_biggrin:
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Theres "Gio" for women, and "Acqua de Gio" por la femme as well.

If WB and MB01 wore these scents, then they might be able to get along, :icon_biggrin:
 
walerian10 said:
Warrior Brothers are going nowhere. We had a select few from other tribes join us, but we never had a full scale merge. My understanding from Jpyap before he left was that MB01 attacked us WHILE still allied with us. That was the tribal reason for war. That doesn't matter much now since we are warring and it apparently has no end right now, but I prefer to get truth in the open.

As to Jinzee, I did not see the reports, but this has been my first and only real tribe. Jpyap had never lied to me that I ever knew. The same went for our tribe. After 6 months here being his diplomat, I trusted him. Whatever the actual truth is, we may never know since he he is gone for good; but we would have followed him to hell. The war began and I assume his RL changed and he was gone.

I stepped up because I care about this tribe. I have the time to play, but my real life doesn't allow me the time to manage a 65 person tribe in the top 40. With Jp gone, we had members confused and upset, and they asked for peace. I spoke to frankchen about peace - which would have left both tribes in about the same state as before we began. He refused peace.

Anyone frankchen splinters off with his "sneaky subservice" mails, is a traitor and we are better without them.

We are now reorganizing the leadership and will be electing a new leader to replace myself. WB right now does not wish war. But if MB01 desires war, then it shall have war.
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Walerian,

I do not have a good opinion of you when I read your first post. Your 2nd post confirms it. Do not cloud the truth from your fellow members. The war started when you launched several attacks at us in 1 Sep. The initial statistics in the favor of WB would show that we are unprepared as we did not expect betrayal from a trusted Ally. We were simply caught by surprise. However, the tide has turned now. You have simply awakened a sleeping giant.

As much as you like this game, so do we. We do not wish to terminate anyone in consideration of the numerous hours they have put in. There are some honorable players in WB who do not wish to partake in the war in the first place. Being benevolent, we are giving them a chance to back out.

The fact that your leader jpyap left WB in the middle of a crisis speaks volumes about your tribe's leadership. I have nothing more to add to that.

What makes this game interesting is that your in-game mannerism would give a fairly accurate projection of your true self. Even while you are negotiating peace, 3 full attack troops from jpyap were sent to my villages a few days ago. Of cause you may deny it, but I've the reports to proof it. Of cause I'll not show you the reports. But what I said is true. My word is my honor.

Silver
MB01
 
I'm not taking sides here, but how can you blame the overall leadership on a player who leaves in the middle of a war? or the rest of the tribe for the actions of a few. This only proves the lack of integrity on behalf of the deserter. It is the individual traitor that should be condemed.

Also why is it that this other tribe has caught you off guard, of course it is wrong for an ally to break an alliance, and turn on you. This says a lot about a tribe who tolerates betrayal against allies, but ally or not you should always be prepared to ward off attacks no matter who they are comeing from. There is no excuse for being unprepared for war in a war game. Seriously, do you expect other tribes to send a formal notice, and give you time to prepare for an assault?

If there is only one shifty culprit here, then why don't you all go after this heathen, and solve everyones problems.

You know.... people trusted Ted Bundy. He was very charming, and well liked, but that didn't make him, or his actions alright. Look at Jeffery Dahmers parents who swore up, and down that he was such a good boy, and these are the people who supposedly knew him the best. Trust no one, but if you do.... be willing to face what comes; whatever it may be.
 
Jinzee said:
I'm not taking sides here, but how can you blame the overall leadership on a player who leaves in the middle of a war? or the rest of the tribe for the actions of a few. This only proves the lack of integrity on behalf of the deserter. It is the individual traitor that should be condemed.

Also why is it that this other tribe has caught you off guard, of course it is wrong for an ally to break an alliance, and turn on you. This says a lot about a tribe who tolerates betrayal against allies, but ally or not you should always be prepared to ward off attacks no matter who they are comeing from. There is no excuse for being unprepared for war in a war game. Seriously, do you expect other tribes to send a formal notice, and give you time to prepare for an assault?

If there is only one shifty culprit here, then why don't you all go after this heathen, and solve everyones problems.

You know.... people trusted Ted Bundy. He was very charming, and well liked, but that didn't make him, or his actions alright. Look at Jeffery Dahmers parents who swore up, and down that he was such a good boy, and these are the people who supposedly knew him the best. Trust no one, but if you do.... be willing to face what comes; whatever it may be.
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:icon_rolleyes: well this is a game, as we all know there will be some inactive players.
I think thats why they lose few at beginning.
 
There will always be a group of people who will fight till death, including its leader of leaders, jpyap.
 
Jinzee said:
Theres "Gio" for women, and "Acqua de Gio" por la femme as well.

If WB and MB01 wore these scents, then they might be able to get along, :icon_biggrin:
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Well...
If one wore "gio" and one wore "emporio", they would certainly attract eachother... :icon_eek:
 
yang_ll said:
There will always be a group of people who will fight till death, including its leader of leaders, jpyap.
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Yes, Yang... Its always a honor to fight for a group that you loved. However, I feel sad for those people who do not even know why they are fighting or what they are fighting for?

How do you call this? slavish?

You want to die because your lord say so? Haha, Good for you.

You need no education then. You better stay un-civilized. Why? Because it will be much easier for they to farm.
 
Silver Wings said:
Walerian,

I do not have a good opinion of you when I read your first post. Your 2nd post confirms it. Do not cloud the truth from your fellow members. The war started when you launched several attacks at us in 1 Sep. The initial statistics in the favor of WB would show that we are unprepared as we did not expect betrayal from a trusted Ally. We were simply caught by surprise. However, the tide has turned now. You have simply awakened a sleeping giant.

As much as you like this game, so do we. We do not wish to terminate anyone in consideration of the numerous hours they have put in. There are some honorable players in WB who do not wish to partake in the war in the first place. Being benevolent, we are giving them a chance to back out.

The fact that your leader jpyap left WB in the middle of a crisis speaks volumes about your tribe's leadership. I have nothing more to add to that.

What makes this game interesting is that your in-game mannerism would give a fairly accurate projection of your true self. Even while you are negotiating peace, 3 full attack troops from jpyap were sent to my villages a few days ago. Of cause you may deny it, but I've the reports to proof it. Of cause I'll not show you the reports. But what I said is true. My word is my honor.

Silver
MB01
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I try to pride myself on not losing composure. But seriously, did your entire tribe fail reading comprehension?

I said that I told the tribe to stop ALL attacks whilst I was speaking with frankchen. After he made it clear that your tribe was not interested in peace, I told the tribe to go about their business. If you were not interested in peace then why would we sit back and do nothing while you attacked us? Blame your leader for those attacks because I told him that war was not good for either tribe.

And once again. I sent the mail about the alliance THREE days before the first attacks as I had been instructed to do. Just because your diplomat doesn't log on and check his mail, does not mean we sent a surprise attack.

Talking about the war is one thing, but your are impugning my personal honor and I take that seriously. I will thank you not to do it again.

-Wally
 
walerian10 said:
Warrior Brothers are going nowhere. We had a select few from other tribes join us, but we never had a full scale merge.
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usualy the tribe is built by either group of friends or group of people which respect each other and agree to serve under the same banner , they are like a whole , lets imagine a tribe as blanket.. MB01 blanket is very strong.. not alot of patches , they have many wars together they respect each other and knows each other weakness's and strengths


WB's blanket is a rag. its patches upon patches.. they are all refuges from different tribes..
TP ,SGL , SDF ,UP , GH KOWK , maybe I forgot more?

from each war in the region , they poached the losers who quit their tribe [doesn't matter if its from the losing or winning tribe]

WB has a weak blanket.. the stiches are just a weak and messy.. a lot of their players are a bunch of chikens , and because the tribe is based on mergers , and doesn't have an actual core of memebers they have no loyalty and hardly any respect to the WB banner
the blanket got hit by jypayp leaving , and under the pummeling of MB01 , it just tore down.
 
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