To turtle or to turtle not

DeletedUser

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To kill and offense is offense (backtime), to kill a defense is offense. So therefore, offensive is much better in start up.
 

DeletedUser

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To kill and offense is offense (backtime), to kill a defense is offense. So therefore, offensive is much better in start up.

actualy, youre wrong
going defence you need to clear your farms, so you have around 300 axes.
use that, and some of your lcs and you kill an offence easily with a backtime
 

DeletedUser

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For me I call that a mixed village. :lol:

well i dont, as most people dont regard the 200 spears you have from the pre lcs stage mixed either

and having the 300 axes with a few tousand spear/sword is very hard to call mixed :D
 

DeletedUser

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For me I call that a mixed village. :lol:

At the stage of the game where a full nuke is overpowered because you'll almost never hit a full defensive village a mixed village isn't that bad.
 

DeletedUser

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If this world was moral based (not sure if it is or not) this tactic would work well on the rim in a small tribe. at the minimum moral, on full def village can hold off up to 6 nukes before going down. so a tribe full of turtles on the rim would work much better than semi core/semi rim
 

TheHans

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Well written my Lord,

This is a leader who has a strategy for the tribe to succeed, not just certain members. Lokindr, you hardly wrote back in W2. I wouldn't think twice about engaging with a player of his weakness.

The Xigians and ES Lords will forever be friends. I am always here to stand beside my friends.
 

DeletedUser

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My man Hans.

I loved that era. There are still a couple here who remember how we played. It's very similar to this, with a little twist. It's a lot of fun actually starting in the core for once :).

As for writing, I far preferred to begin that in a few months. But this deserved an appearance. I'll be back in a little while I'm sure.
 

DeletedUser

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I was about to close my account when i saw this post, so added some food for your thoughts.

This is a battle where i defended against two top dogs of the K. It was 5 attacks on 1 village. Of course i lost the village and the battle. But if it were later into the game and such a battle took place when i had a few villages, i would consider it a big success given the losses two sides suffered.

Battle field: W59, coord 730|478
Date: Dec 14-15, 2011

Attackers: info as at battle date
- Lychaeus: 57 days in game, 32k pts, biggest player in K47
- Horn Dog: 64 days in game, 20k pts, second-biggest player in K47

Defender:
- thphuong: 42 days in game, 6k pts, tribeless
- no support

First attack was stopped

Lychaeus attacks thphuong (Dec 14, 2011 14:15:12)
The defender has won
Morale: 100%, Luck: 24.2%
Attacker (718|482)
Swordsman: 3 (-3)
Axeman: 1726 (-1726)
Scout: 50 (-50)
Light cavalry: 1054 (-1054)
Ram: 99 (-99)
Catapult: 81 (-81)
Defender (730|478)
Pikeman: 8178 (-977)
Swordsman: 3925 (-469)
Axeman: 51 (-6)
Scout: 644 (-77)
Light cavalry: 3 (0)
Heavy cavalry: 775 (-93)

Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 19
Opponents defeated - points:
Attacker: 8 475
Defender: 22 314
Created usingMytwstats reports converter

The second attack was killed, too
Lychaeus attacks thphuong (Dec 14, 2011 15:13:44)
The defender has won
Morale: 100%, Luck: -8.2%
Attacker (716|474)
Axeman: 3018 (-3018)
Scout: 20 (-20)
Light cavalry: 1606 (-1606)
Heavy cavalry: 115 (-115)
Ram: 122 (-122)
Catapult: 92 (-92)
Defender (730|478)
Pikeman: 7201 (-2015)
Swordsman: 3456 (-967)
Axeman: 59 (-17)
Scout: 567 (-159)
Light cavalry: 3 (-1)
Heavy cavalry: 685 (-192)

Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 19 to level 17
Opponents defeated - points:
Attacker: 17 492
Defender: 36 611
Created usingMytwstats reports converter

The third attack was not successful, either
Lychaeus attacks thphuong (Dec 15, 2011 00:54:59)
The defender has won
Morale: 100%, Luck: -12.5%
Attacker (732|444)
Axeman: 3406 (-3406)
Scout: 50 (-50)
Light cavalry: 2381 (-2381)
Heavy cavalry: 19 (-19)
Ram: 189 (-189)
Catapult: 116 (-116)
Defender (730|478)
Pikeman: 5186 (-4373)
Swordsman: 2489 (-2099)
Axeman: 185 (-156)
Scout: 422 (-356)
Light cavalry: 2 (-2)
Heavy cavalry: 522 (-440)

Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 17 to level 8
Damage by catapults: The Farm has been damaged and downgraded from level 30 to level 29
Opponents defeated - points:
Attacker: 38 629
Defender: 47 634
Created usingMytwstats reports converter

Then Horn Dog went into the picture, but the 4th attack did not succeed yet
Horn Dog attacks thphuong (Dec 15, 2011 07:14:20)
The defender has won
Morale: 100%, Luck: -20.0%
Attacker (713|488)
Axeman: 1142 (-1142)
Light cavalry: 604 (-604)
Ram: 119 (-119)
Defender (730|478)
Pikeman: 971 (-475)
Swordsman: 444 (-217)
Axeman: 337 (-165)
Scout: 68 (-33)
Light cavalry: 1495 (-731)
Heavy cavalry: 122 (-60)
Ram: 216 (-106)
Nobleman: 1 (0)
Militia: 300 (-147)

Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 10 to level 1
Opponents defeated - points:
Attacker: 8 642
Defender: 13 372
Created usingMytwstats reports converter

of course by then i was too thin for the last attack
Horn Dog attacks thphuong (Dec 15, 2011 07:14:23)
The attacker has won
Morale: 100%, Luck: -17.1%
Attacker (729|492)
Axeman: 3161 (-354)
Light cavalry: 1675 (-188)
Ram: 188 (-21)
Nobleman: 1 (0)
Defender (730|478)
Pikeman: 496 (-496)
Swordsman: 227 (-227)
Axeman: 172 (-172)
Scout: 35 (-35)
Light cavalry: 764 (-764)
Heavy cavalry: 62 (-62)
Ram: 110 (-110)
Nobleman: 1 (-1)
Militia: 153 (-153)

Haul: 29.105 30.653 26.541 86.299/147.030
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 1 to level 0
Change of Loyalty: Dropped from 100 to 70
Opponents defeated - points:
Attacker: 9 212
Defender: 4 028
Created usingMytwstats reports converter


Notes:
- i kept my offence outside the village during the first 3 attacks because at first only saw incomings from Lychaeus. i scouted his attacking villages, found the attacking forces, put them in the simulator and saw that i would probably fall in the 3rd attack. So kept the axe/LC outside to do a backtime. 12 hours later when i logged in again, the first 3 attacks had already taken place and no enemy troops survived. So no backtime strike is needed. But then i saw Horn Dog closing in so withdraw the axe/LC for defence
- i started out building a lot of LCs but switched to defence about 2 weeks into the game as i planned to quit this world so stacking the vil for not having to pay attention to the daily incomings


With all due respect to the attackers, my point here is, a turtle can consume a lot more forces, resources and time of the rivals, as shown in this battle. So if you have several villages or an alliance to exploit the rival's exhaustion (which i regretably didn't have :), you can gain significant strategic advantage.
 

Deleted User - 4669627

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congrats on 127k odd gain taking a 1 village loss
 
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