TW (WAR) with [L]

[DeletedUser3116]

1) Its FORGOT, not FORGET

2) You make a weak argument, comparing the oversight of allowing one rogue player into a tribe against the blatent attempts to undermine TW by supporting our enemies.

1) my mistake, thanks...
(I'm doing my best, but I still have some problems with English grammer).

2) You got a weak argument too, as there was mearly 5 people that supported PANTS, and also mearly 5 people that supported TW.
Do you know how much % is 10 out of 350 ? less than 3% of our tribe members got involved in your war, some in your favor, and you blame us all...

...
Lets not forget you didn't reported about those members that supported PANTS.

 

[DeletedUser]

More like establish alliances and NAPs then declare war after we find out they're backstabbing us.

More like, showing for the Nth time how the same lies still work on your members. You use that same exact words every time, are you an automated machine anwer?
I honestly don't think that anyone believes your words anymore, besides your members of course.

I remember seeing your internal "declaration" when you started this world. It mentioned dominating the whole map as a goal and using allies and NAPs just as a temporary mean until you find convenient to break them.
This was taken as a joke by many but it seems like you really are sticking to that.

You must think of yourselves as diplomatic masterminds. :icon_rolleyes:
Watch out for the backfire.

 

[DeletedUser]

Stop...... crying..... over.... spilt..... milk....

The war has started (and likely finished) so lets all just get along and get back to making fun of mebers.

 

[DeletedUser]

Well, excuse me, but not everyone you say to be a fugitive was to be immediately dismissed. You have 800+ members and they all claim the right to some player. How nice and practical.

We were cooperating and dismissed most of the listed players. The remaining 5% were still to be talked about. But it was you who put our relations in position of "do as we ask without questions". That is how you immagine an alliance. We think that allies talk and understand eachother.

And, of course, you paste one "mail" of our "member" as "proof". All seen before. :icon_rolleyes: Again, very original.

Now, this pathetic explanation of why you declared war is just that, pathetic.
Did you request all the major tribes to dismiss all ex LPR members. I think not because I still see them there.

It is you who repeat the same things for 100 times and start believing in them.
You guys are really becoming boring. :icon_sad:

You recruited dozens players directly from tribes we with which we were at war. An ally comprised of my ex enemy who refuses to comply with reasonable requests does not deserve anything more then what is taking place right now.

 

[DeletedUser1524]

More like, showing for the Nth time how the same lies still work on your members. You use that same exact words every time, are you an automated machine anwer?
I honestly don't think that anyone believes your words anymore, besides your members of course.

I remember seeing your internal "declaration" when you started this world. It mentioned dominating the whole map as a goal and using allies and NAPs just as a temporary mean until you find convenient to break them.
This was taken as a joke by many but it seems like you really are sticking to that.

You must think of yourselves as diplomatic masterminds. :icon_rolleyes:
Watch out for the backfire.

lets break this down to simple facts ok?

1. L supported TW's enemies
2. L harbored fugitives of TW. They did kick out some of them, but not the bigger ones.

Now, personally 2 doesn't bother me much. I mean if you want to recruit cowards that's fine but it is a bit of a slap to the guys who spent time and troops attacking them.

#1 though is a total deal breaker in my mind. That's akin to attacking an ally. I posted a thread about it the other day and almost everyone agreed that it isn't the actions of an ally. Sure you can say "well it was only 5 people" but that just doesn't hold up. You should have acted upon that.

TW respects its allies that ACT like allies. Briton, HOT, VP/ZP, and others get our respect for how they handle themselves. I don't feel like they are keeping the ally tag on merely to buy time to screw us.

I feel that L did exactly that.

 

[DeletedUser]

this thread is laughable. I do enjoy reading the poor [L] fellows who really believe they were in the right.
Our true allies know who they are because they are in constant contact with us and do not backstab us. Boo hoo [L] messed up and now they are crying about it.

 

[DeletedUser973]

I am pleased to announce that the [L] member who attempted to backstab me has been eliminated.

http://w1.twplus.org/index.php?tool=file&pid=31161

good riddance to treacherous scum.

 

[DeletedUser]

TW respects its allies that ACT like allies. Briton, HOT, VP/ZP, and others get our respect for how they handle themselves. I don't feel like they are keeping the ally tag on merely to buy time to screw us.

You mean, like what you're doing?
When we put all crap aside, we have YOU cancelling the alliance for no valid reason and declaring war.
And again we have YOU attacking our weaker members with planned attacks, and us defending.
Now, who was buying time just before attacking?

 

[DeletedUser]

You mean, like what you're doing?
When we put all crap aside, we have YOU cancelling the alliance for no valid reason and declaring war.
And again we have YOU attacking our weaker members with planned attacks, and us defending.
Now, who was buying time just before attacking?

Save yourself some dignity and pull out your network cable from your computer.

 

[DeletedUser]

[L]'s Guid3 to Allianc3s

1. ok so like top tribes are tough so we'll make friends
2. cuz of this we can d3fend with like 1000 sword tops
3. invite people cuz of points
4. points = awesome
5. support enemies of allies cuz they might attack us too
6. there are no troops outside of baghdad
7. there is no sex in teh champagne room

 

[DeletedUser]

Sorry, but seeing your history of lying, I don't trust you a single word. :icon_confused:

Do you really need to see the TW plus link that shows the guys who STARTED our wars with LPR and PANTS being in your tribe?

bigmar - K46 - LPR -> [L]
PolarBear - K56 - LPR -> [L]
bieder - K46 - LPR -> [L]

Bigmar was THE instigator leading to our past 2 wars. The other two LPR listed nobled a TW village withing ~1 week of joining [L]. You not only accepted them into your tribe you supported them with troops to prevent retaliation. Tell me how an alliance can be expected to function when this allied tribe is comprised of our high profile enemies?

 

[DeletedUser]

[L] member would never attack you, as you were our allies.

The irony is strong in this one. You have members in [L] who had nobled TW villages in the past and were on the recieving end in our past wars. Yet, suddenly you are our allies and would never attack?

The level of animosity displayed in this thread is proof that you didn't really like us that much. Hell, you went to war with Briton for a little "bullying". We "bully" you a lot more then they did, but you didn't declare war on us. Just last week you were suprise attacking your NAPs and clandestinely supporting against your allies and now we're the dishonorable ones? The only reason you haven't struck at us like you did with Briton is because you know the outcome would be unfavorable.

 

[DeletedUser1524]

When we put all crap aside, we have YOU cancelling the alliance for no valid reason and declaring war.

Again, so we're all clear, are you saying that supporting an allies enemy is NOT a valid reason for that ally to drop the alliance?

 

[DeletedUser]

You mean, like what you're doing?
When we put all crap aside, we have YOU cancelling the alliance for no valid reason and declaring war.
And again we have YOU attacking our weaker members with planned attacks, and us defending.
Now, who was buying time just before attacking?

Hey 2 weeks ago it was you guys dropping the nap and suprise attacking Briton for the reasons of "bullying" and charging resources for a nap. Suddenly, harboring fugitives and killing your allies troops looks like a pretty good reason for an attack.

 

[DeletedUser]

You mean, like what you're doing?
When we put all crap aside, we have YOU cancelling the alliance for no valid reason and declaring war.
And again we have YOU attacking our weaker members with planned attacks, and us defending.
Now, who was buying time just before attacking?

The point values of the recently captured [L] villages:

7,978
5,937
10,507
4,910
5,355
4,547
7,237
11,406
7,547
5,565
8,242
8,468
4,913
7,209
6,983
9,356
6,718
4,502
9,265
6,718
3,816
8,184
10,541
3,593
8,256
5,078
6,587
8,187
8,733
9,483
9,298

avg = 7261

Please inform us of which of these should be considered "weaker" targets so we can pass along your sentiments to your members who have lost villages.

 

[DeletedUser791]

I'm going to enjoy my new 12000 pt L village.

 

[DeletedUser1280]

What's pretty ironic is that from L's very own words, they show how ignorant they are.

"More like, showing for the Nth time how the same lies still work on your members. You use that same exact words every time, are you an automated machine anwer?"

RIGHT THERE. Right there, [L] KNOWS TW will go to war if a supposed "ally" harbors fugitives, or supports TW's enemies during a war. They knew it, yet choose to ignore it. I guess they assumed that we'd either A) not figure it out, or never find out when they themselves did it or B) figured it was worth the risk since TW is run by a bunch of morons. Or C) that somehow, that they were "special" and that if *they* did it, that it would be ok, because in their mind's eye, it could never happen to them.

TW takes the whole fugitive thing extremely seriously. Apparently everyone knows it (they say so themselves) yet fail to heed it.

If there is one single thing our allies can count on, TW will NEVER take in fugitives from other tribes. NEVER. We can't. Even if we could, we wouldn't. And we damn well expect the same in return.

 

[DeletedUser]

Hey how many times has TW supported the enemy of an ally even if that enemy was an ally of TW?

Oh that's right. Never. And you know what? They've all understood.

 

[DeletedUser791]

I'm pretty sure that most tribes hate us and keep up half assed alliances only to protect themselves from situations like this.

I remember Destiny saying everyone hated us, so did Archangel, and some other tribe I don't remember. Now L. Well in the famous words of Jim Brown as impersonated by Richard Prior.


Whatchoo goin do?

 

[DeletedUser817]

You didn't, I did...
Care to ask all of your members about thier personal alliances ?
I'm sure that if they won't be lying to you, you will find out amazing things.

You're right, I've had maybe 2 or 3 [L] players that I've really liked support me. I have also offered them my support numerous times. It sucks that when we went to war we were going to be forced to attack each other. Fortunately for me, they left [L] and we are still getting along perfectly.