Undeserving players

[DeletedUser]

I'm going to pick Meelex here because the way he's achieved his rank is kinda ridiculous, also because he seems to be quite proud of himself..

www.MeeleX.youaremighty.com

Here's some interesting stats..

Points: 1.067.531
Rank: 2
100 villages total

Opponents defeated (as attacker)
26 MeeleX 642.666

Breakdown of his 'conquers'

12 villages from krle (former RoCK)
9 villages from Dhaeman (former RoCK)
5 villages from joncurtis (former RoCK)
5 villages from RoCK players (before they disbanded)
8 villages from HOT players
12 villages from other IP

51 total from allies and friends...

legitimate takeovers...
35 villages from real players
13 abandoned villages
1 starting village

49 total for legit villages..

Normally i try not to post slander unless I'm defending my tribe. But, i'm just a bit frustrated here. I can't understand how the most profitable person from the CA vs. RoCK war is a Duke in IP.

I'll give everyone an example of what's going on..

Dhaeman, joined IP, then was booted at request. It gives the appearance of them being honest, however, that's far from the truth. Dhaeman it is known is quitting the game. The villages that CA players are targeting will get stacked with supported by Dhaeman, while the villages Meelex attack will be purposely left wide open ready for takeover.

To put things in perspective... Meelex has killed 642.666 while attacking and has 100 village, i've killed just under 1,000,000 and have 80 villages. And i've even had about 10-12 free villages from quitting tribemates and friends i've defended in the past. So don't tell me Meelex has been paying the same price for those ex-RoCK villages as CA players have.

Say what you'd like, but for those IP players that read these forums, it's things like this that strain our diplomatic relations.

 

[Evando]

ask yourself the question, would you turn down a free village, close by and empty

 

[DeletedUser]

ask yourself the question, would you turn down a free village, close by and empty

If they endanger diplomatic relations then yes. IP only cares about their own well being. This can't happen if you want to strengthen your diplomatic relations.

 

[DeletedUser7126]

Hell, I got alot of mine giving to me by friends but the bottom line is I have them!! I have 47 villages, most were giving to me but does that make me less powerful as another person that has 47 villages? No matter how hard some of you want to try and make this game, in reality a monkey could play it. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out how to attack, take, and hold a village. Just my opnion!

 

[DeletedUser7126]

If they endanger diplomatic relations then yes. IP only cares about their own well being. This can't happen if you want to strengthen your diplomatic relations.

How would taking free villages danger a relationship. Are you freaking serious?

 

[DeletedUser]

ask yourself the question, would you turn down a free village, close by and empty

I take villages from friends that are quitting because chances are i've done them favors. I only take villages from quitting tribemates unless they are near me, and if they are near me i've worked with them and helped them in some way.

Over half of Meelex's village have been handed to him.
But, you're missing the point... recently the villages he has been getting have come at the expense of CA players. Villages he's getting handed to him would otherwise be taken by players who are actually using real armies to take them.

Just don't question why IP is being viewed in a bad light, when underhanded things like this are happening.

 

[DeletedUser7126]

I take villages from friends that are quitting because chances are i've done them favors. I only take villages from quitting tribemates unless they are near me, and if they are near me i've worked with them and helped them in some way.

Over half of Meelex's village have been handed to him.
But, you're missing the point... recently the villages he has been getting have come at the expense of CA players. Villages he's getting handed to him would otherwise be taken by players who are actually using real armies to take them.

Just don't question why IP is being viewed in a bad light, when underhanded things like this are happening.

And................... Are you mad because he didnt have to use troops? I dont understand the problem here.

 

[DeletedUser]

Hell, I got alot of mine giving to me by friends but the bottom line is I have them!! I have 47 villages, most were giving to me but does that make me less powerful as another person that has 47 villages? No matter how hard some of you want to try and make this game, in reality a monkey could play it. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out how to attack, take, and hold a village. Just my opnion!

Hehe, yes, this game is easy, not denying that. And no, chances are player A with 47 villages is as powerful as player B with 47 villages. But who do you think would be the better player.. the person who took their villages from real opponents, or people who had everything handed to them? LOL

But, why is it, that more often then not, the aristocracy of family tribes are always the ones that get the villages of quitting players. Why not give them to the active smaller players in the tribe?

 

[DeletedUser7126]

Hehe, yes, this game is easy, not denying that. And no, chances are player A with 47 villages is as powerful as player B with 47 villages. But who do you think would be the better player.. the person who took their villages from real opponents, or people who had everything handed to them? LOL

But, why is it, that more often then not, the aristocracy of family tribes are always the ones that get the villages of quitting players. Why not give them to the active smaller players in the tribe?

Well, as I said, they would be the same in my eyes. Although most of mine were handed to me I can guarentee that I know how to use the troops in them. Just because someone else may got them the hard way doesnt mean they have more farm space.

 

[DeletedUser]

And................... Are you mad because he didnt have to use troops? I dont understand the problem here.

Okay... put yourself in my shoes for a moment.

I'm a Duke of DR, i read on our forums of how all these attacks on certain ex-RoCK players are running into huge defense from players that are supposedly quitting. But.. all that is fine, we don't expect things to be handed to us on a silver platter. But what i do NOT see as fine is that our supposed allies coming in and taking free villages from the players we are taking targeting.

Now Steve, please tell me how this would you feel? Would you feel like you're proud of this alliance?

 

[DeletedUser7126]

Okay... put yourself in my shoes for a moment.

I'm a Duke of DR, i read on our forums of how all these attacks on certain ex-RoCK players are running into huge defense from players that are supposedly quitting. But.. all that is fine, we don't expect things to be handed to us on a silver platter. But what i do NOT see as fine is that our supposed allies coming in and taking free villages from the players we are taking targeting.

Now Steve, please tell me how this would you feel? Would you feel like you're proud of this alliance?

When did that happen?

 

[DeletedUser]

I dont wish to create any confusion by saying this... but many of the top 100 ranked players, if not most, have theire rank based on taking inactives + allies + tribe members.

Guess its just the way it is

To tell you the truth, i am not a good inactive catcher. When i try to get an inactive village always end up loosing it a couple of hours later :icon_redface:

Best Wishes
Latinnus

 

[DeletedUser]

Well, as I said, they would be the same in my eyes. Although most of mine were handed to me I can guarentee that I know how to use the troops in them. Just because someone else may got them the hard way doesnt mean they have more farm space.

lol, it's not about the farm space, but, my money is on the person who's proven they know how to use them.

GD has had a lot of villages given to him, but he has my respect as a player because i know he knows how to use his armies.

Let me give you an example of the point i'm trying to make:

Meelex has 100 villages
Sicnarf has 94 villages

Over half of Meelex's villages have been handed to him.
Sicnarf on the other hand since the start of the world has been surrounded by enemy players since the start of the world. Starting with -F.A- back when they were the top tribe in the game and had DR marked as enemies. Then again during the RoCK war, he was surrounded by the enemy.

Now, knowing that, who would you say is the better player? who is more deserving of their rank? That's the point i'm trying to make here.

 

[DeletedUser7126]

I dont wish to create any confusion by saying this... but many of the top 100 ranked players, if not most, have theire rank based on taking inactives + allies + tribe members.

Guess its just the way it is

To tell you the truth, i am not a good inactive catcher. When i try to get an inactive village always end up loosing it a couple of hours later :icon_redface:

Best Wishes
Latinnus

Do you send support behind your nobles? Have support arrive the minute you get the village and people will get tired of trying to snipe it.....lol

 

[DeletedUser]

When did that happen?

Just check twplus
http://w3.twplus.org/index.php?tool=file&pid=82431&mode=conquer

 

[DeletedUser7126]

lol, it's not about the farm space, but, my money is on the person who's proven they know how to use them.

GD has had a lot of villages given to him, but he has my respect as a player because i know he knows how to use his armies.

Let me give you an example of the point i'm trying to make:

Meelex has 100 villages
Sicnarf has 94 villages

Over half of Meelex's villages have been handed to him.
Sicnarf on the other hand since the start of the world has been surrounded by enemy players since the start of the world. Starting with -F.A- back when they were the top tribe in the game and had DR marked as enemies. Then again during the RoCK war, he was surrounded by the enemy.

Now, knowing that, who would you say is the better player? who is more deserving of their rank? That's the point i'm trying to make here.

I completely understand your point. On the other hand, my point is that even sicnarf has only so much farm space. To me it would be how much support his tribe sent. Now dont take that the wrong way because I truly believe that there are players here that are better than others but in the grand scheme of things you are only as good as your tribe. Do you understand what I mean? If you have a maximum farm space of 100K, then you can only defend with a 100K. If your tribe sends you another 100K then that is what really helps.

 

[Evando]

lol, it's not about the farm space, but, my money is on the person who's proven they know how to use them.

GD has had a lot of villages given to him, but he has my respect as a player because i know he knows how to use his armies.

Let me give you an example of the point i'm trying to make:

Meelex has 100 villages
Sicnarf has 94 villages

Over half of Meelex's villages have been handed to him.
Sicnarf on the other hand since the start of the world has been surrounded by enemy players since the start of the world. Starting with -F.A- back when they were the top tribe in the game and had DR marked as enemies. Then again during the RoCK war, he was surrounded by the enemy.

Now, knowing that, who would you say is the better player? who is more deserving of their rank? That's the point i'm trying to make here.

Sicnarfs main threats were taken out on the day of the war they were Kremer and crasher2200. Many of the Rock players near him were inactive or were low point members making it hard for them to attack him

inactive members:-
Mogwai
Warova
WfW1

only active players near him were under 100,000pts, not taking anything away from him he has done well but he did try to get a few IP players to break alliance and attack Rock members during the war

 

[ender_wiggin]

Considering Meelex has sniped multiple times from my members, and I have yet to hear a response... he's definitely something.

Edit:
Points:
Ender_wiggin 454.849 49
Attacking Opponents Defeated:
Ender_wiggin 484.686

I've killed 1.066 troops for every point I have. That's an ok ratio, though I wish it were closer to 1.25

28 of my villages were enemies, 13 were D.V members, 8 were abandoneds, a few of which were ex-tribe members. However, I have had to clear my ex-tribesmembers villages, excepting 3, and I have always given back any I have sniped, see the slimlin incident, and the danzii incident.

 

[DeletedUser]

Sicnarfs main threats were taken out on the day of the war they were Kremer and crasher2200. Many of the Rock players near him were inactive or were low point members making it hard for them to attack him

inactive members:-
Mogwai
Warova
WfW1

only active players near him were under 100,000pts, not taking anything away from him he has done well but he did try to get a few IP players to break alliance and attack Rock members during the war

I offered a few IP player a chance to mop up some smaller rock players, they refused I did not push the offer so I took the moral penalty and wiped a few of the tiny players myslef instead. Then as/when rock broke, IP took lots of villages anway. Bothers me not I got lots of practice attacking and defending attacks I can now launch over 500 dummies + real attacks in 40 min or so with no preparation and get all the attacks to hit within roughly 2 hours of each other. Very handy skill that when you are in a rush.

 

[DeletedUser]

How would taking free villages danger a relationship. Are you freaking serious?

In this context yes; deadly serious. This is the main reason for the termination of the alliance between HTW-R & IP which potentially could have been highly beneficial to both parties, however it was ruined by the greed of some players.