Ill put this out there, Because we are the bigger tribe out of either alliance we have had people automatically assume we are the bullies/baddies. Yet how many people have taken the time to read up or ask around from both sides what has actually happened? Not alot that's for sure.
7SF - The bitchiness from their members about Valour was intolerable - I sat in their tribe Skype chat and some made personal digs at myself but mainly at my tribe without noticing I was there; the 7SF tribe had grown so ignorant in recent times; but aside from that - Brookssyy took forever to be sorted; I found out from SPAM they had an alliance with them despite at one stage 7SF were wanting to war them? Or at least that's what I was lead to believe, then I was only told by tony it was a NAP; SLAP was supposedly a war target for 7SF so we got involved with Deus; later turns out they merge with them; I get told the day before and despite what I thought of the matter and my warning to tony I wouldnt work with SLAP members he went ahead with things. Heck I was told Telisha would have no position of power but it later turned out she had. The lack of information that came from 7SF was not encouraging and when it does most of the time it was completely opposite to what is actually happening or going to happen - We being Valour were bored/tired of it considering how often I stuck my neck out for the tribe to keep them Safe. I dropped the Alliance more of a wake up call and fear factor to them to get their asses in gear but it wasnt long before they were plotting war against us; the only two members from their leadership that seemed remotely bothered was Nyx and fizz.
My reply to them after I set inital demands was of following.
Save your time dismissing telisha and hrigg's I have just spoken to my council regarding the chat we had today and we all seem on the same terms; despite you guys wanting to start a fresh - We cannot, mainly because the same structure is in place. The trust of your word's are gone; Valour can no longer hold you guys accountable to anything you say or supposedly plan to do.
How did they follow this up? By sending a PnP mail to my tribe in attempt to cause trouble when infact I tell my tribe every step I make diplomacy wise.
TCR - Was a bit of wierd situation - We had been bombbarding the secret in K22 for weeks and had just cleared it with trains inbound the player then passed it to TCR. I requested it to be sent to us as I was not prepared to let 100+ nukes and countless time and trains to go to waste; it would be a slap in the face for my members that had bothered to participate. This was declined and branded as selfish from TCR when I had infact offered an agreement or some kind of compensation if they were to name it. I was later being told things could be worked out and fixed but never to its full standing before.
Below is what i sent to Battle Hyms
Straight to the point with this; as you may be aware by the time you read this mail you guys have been pass the K22 Secret from [ally]Deus[/ally] as the player holding it has supposedly gone away for some time.
Now we ([ally]Valour[/ally]) Have been hitting it for weeks solid with nuke after nuke and train after train hence his Defender of the day and rapid increase in ODD - Moment's before he handed the secret over we cleared the village and has a train hours away from landing on it only to find its been passed.
Several of my members have had brief contact in attempt to get the secret handed to us without any fuss or some kind of deal however it seems there has been much room for movement in terms of flexing a deal out so I Will be brutely honest with you as I have respect for you; unless a deal can be struck I am not prepared to let 100+ nukes and countless OP's on him to go to waste I will drop the Alliance for the sake of that secret and continue attempts to obtain it. We have wasted to much time and troops for me to just allow it to be left as it is now.
This May sound petty or selfish but end of the day thats's how its going to be.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Regards
Sp.
[6/12/2012 5:44:14 PM] ryan (Co battle hymns): thanks anyway.. if you guys wish to cease this silly skirmish then let me know so i can work things out on my end
[6/12/2012 5:45:07 PM] ryan (Co battle hymns): will never be an aliiance againce but a nap at least till later on down the tracks
[6/12/2012 5:45:13 PM] ryan (Co battle hymns): just an option
But not even 24 hours after such a statement
The tribe The Celestial Reapers declared war on tribe Valour! Jun 13,2012 10:49
People will always question Valour's antics in terms of Diplomacy but I have always been upfront with our intentions to anyone who has been straight forward with us, Sometimes I can be to honest/blunt.
In terms of this conflict its something we were not prepared for as I never had any intentions of dropping the Alliance with TCR or not at least for sometime as I had friends in that tribe. But war is war I suppose. :axemen:
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