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DeletedUser96310

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To begin, let me clarify that in no way is this meant to promote distasteful propaganda. Actually, I am posting this info that was mailed me only to show that BS is a very capable tribe with skilled leadership. Leadership mind you that see's the full picture. With this said I am also posting it for those whom haven't yet considered this topic. The mail is self revealing in what I assume many of the world's leaders/council have discussed and in it, I think lies a much larger discussion that all the world can/should participate in.

@ DarkVampyre, your foresight is commendable and it is in this that I feel you and BS leaders deserve credit for the discussion that follows.

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DarkVampyre on 17.01.2012 at 17:31 Thanks Quote Edit Delete

siritz whilst i agree with the if people dont pull their weight the way this world's voctory conditions are set i actaully think a full tribe of 75 will be needed to win
and it can be done easier with willing active and tenacious members
and why i say a full tribe of 75 is because of the unusualy victory conditions that have been set on this world that hasn't been done before

firstly only the points of the top 40 members of the tribe count in VC
meaning 2 tribes can have virtually the same amount of points and yet the VC's can still be met and the game won

now if we help our small tribe members grow now it'll make them stronger later a bonus for the tribe especially if they're active willing and act for the tribe

2nd when we're ready to try n go for VC we can work out who's in the best position to be internaled and internal 75% of the vills of the 35 players villages to actually gain the VC's to win i say 75% cos we'll still need players for support and growth no matter who or who is not chosen to win for the tribe <<< This is what I assume most council/leaders have discussed and is what concerns me as it can lead to false victory, yes? Am I wrong in this thought analogy?

additionlly clearence raids and such if organised properly can then allow those 35 to renoble and grow again to help keep the winning conditions for the 3 months necessary which is where the barbs will come important aka the 35 players not in the winning position mass noble the barbs and build them up to be internalled to keep the edge over the opposition :|
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Hopefully this is a very throughly discussed topic.. maybe even a mod or admin can openly participate as well as all of 59. Nobody has all the answers but together and through discussion, answers are usually revealed.

Again, this discussion's props go not to myself and/or shAve but mostly to DV.
 

slinkiestwizard

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LOL bee yes its funny to see a player looking at end game and actually knowing whats involved to win , some what commendable . one small point though your not gonna noble 100 million points with 40 players nobling barbs and survive to talk about it . Figured id post the rest below as im sure some will look.


World 59 is scheduled to start on Tuesday the 11th of October at around 17:00 server time (CET).

Unlike previous worlds, this world will end once a number of specific winning conditions have been met. These conditions are final, and won't be changed for this world.

For the world to end and a tribe to be declared the winner:
The tribe must reach 100 million points (top 40 members).
The tribe must be ranked number one, and have double the points of the rank two tribe (top 40 members).
The tribe must stay over 100 million points for 3 months, after which the world will end.
Only a single tribe can win the world. No alliances or family tribes.
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DeletedUser

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Do not see why anyone would think about winning a world right now! People who actually win the world are not the best players who started this world. IMO winning a world is not important at all! Maybe Morthy set up these winning conditions, so the best players will stay in the game and keep fighting making a world fun for the majority of the world. mhm
 

DeletedUser

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lambezz said:
Do not see why anyone would think about winning a world right now! People who actually win the world are not the best players who started this world. IMO winning a world is not important at all! Maybe Morthy set up these winning conditions, so the best players will stay in the game and keep fighting making a world fun for the majority of the world. mhm
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Do not see why anyone would think about winning a world right now! People who actually win the world are not the best players who started this world.


^ Serious? :icon_neutral:
 

DeletedUser

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lambezz said:
Do not see why anyone would think about winning a world right now! People who actually win the world are not the best players who started this world. IMO winning a world is not important at all! Maybe Morthy set up these winning conditions, so the best players will stay in the game and keep fighting making a world fun for the majority of the world. mhm
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Talking about the strictly start-up players? Who always quit after start-up? I would not consider them the best players, I would consider the best players to be in the best tribe and the best tribe to be the tribe that wins.

Winning isn't important, enjoying the game is the main thing
The VC conditions are set to change the regular routine of worlds and try to attract new players to TW as the level of advertising had fallen due to a Global Economic Recession and InnoGames bringing out newer games in which they advertise more.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'the best players will stay in the game', I can only imagine your referring to start-up players

Though to answer your first point, you should always be thinking of ways to win, this is a strategy game, it requires strategy to win, nice to see BS put some thought into it, though I don't necessarily agree with their idea
 

DeletedUser

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Well look at W44, i will win that world but not because of skill, because the best 13 players in a tribe called Inc, mass deleted. They were up by 2K conquers against my tribe, but felt they no longer felt like playing!
 

slinkiestwizard

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lambezz said:
Do not see why anyone would think about winning a world right now! People who actually win the world are not the best players who started this world. IMO winning a world is not important at all! Maybe Morthy set up these winning conditions, so the best players will stay in the game and keep fighting making a world fun for the majority of the world. mhm
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I dont see why another player of BS would be forwarding that kind of mail , to the Duke of a tribe they are warring sorry forgot to mention that before :icon_redface:
 

DeletedUser

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slinkiestwizard said:
I dont see why another player of BS would be forwarding that kind of mail , to the Duke of a tribe they are warring sorry forgot to mention that before :icon_redface:
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To maybe get on the good sife of Shave, we all know but the player that is forwarding this mail, that he will never be accepted into Shave. Spies never win!
 

DeletedUser92671

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Since I was the person that was in discussion with darkvamp over this in that mail you displayed Bee i can say this is something me and Poqq/Lumo have been discussing in great detail since day one of our pre-made,
except we had a minor and a major set back in our plans...
 

DeletedUser96310

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Its a good plan Reece, however with the the rule "tribe must be rank 1 and double the points of the rank 2" throws a wrench in the plan. I do think the winning tribe will have at least 25 of the top 40, maybe/probably more simply because the winning tribe has to have double the points.
 

DeletedUser92671

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This is a point i brought up earlier,

If the top 40 of your tribe eats the other 20 or so members, then you get alot of very easy villages very quickly, but your tribe has no points gain overall cos the villages havnt changed hands in terms of tribes,
but
if your tribe is 100 mill, say, 60 mill belonging to your top 40,
and rank 2 tribe is also 100 mill, 60 mill top 40,
when you eat your remaining members, you become 100 mill in your top 40, and therefore, are almost double the size of the tribe you were just level with, in terms of top 40 points, which is what you need,
if you look at the rules, im pretty sure it says to win the tribe has to be double the size of the rank 2 tribe (top 40 players)
if it does not, then i stand corrected.
 

DeletedUser103537

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Ok I read this message and even though I don't like to agree with shAve on this. I myself dislike this plan and don't really feel it to be useful at all. But that is my opinion. I guess my opinion is dumb. I don't do much anyways just a lonely clown. Also I don't see why everyone is looking towards the end game it is still really early on this world things can change.
Thank you
TheEvilClown
 

DeletedUser85953

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Evilclownhateyou said:
Ok I read this message and even though I don't like to agree with shAve on this. I myself dislike this plan and don't really feel it to be useful at all. But that is my opinion. I guess my opinion is dumb. I don't do much anyways just a lonely clown. Also I don't see why everyone is looking towards the end game it is still really early on this world things can change.
Thank you
TheEvilClown
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As much as I do not want to agree with Evilclownhateyou agreeing with shave, I have to agree with Evilclownhateyou about agreeing with shave on this topic.

End game is so far away it is pointless to try work on it now. All that has happened here is that all the smaller players in BS who are happily playing the game and looking forward to a nice war and some city building are all now wondering when they are going to be eaten.

Will BS even be around long enough to try to get this plan to work? Shave and ONE are not even close to 50 million with their top 40 players.
Also, if eating players accounts to grow the top 40 is the plan, the the bottom 40 will have to be pretty good players or their accounts will be so small as to not make a huge dent for the top 40.

I think the easiest way would just be for everyone to empty their villages and let shave noble them.
 

DeletedUser

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TBH, people should never look towards end game. Middle stage is where it is at. Even tho most of B.S or even members of Shave will not be here end game. RL does get involved. Just have fun!
 
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