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W27 Weekly: 23th August
[spoil]Zarin – Editor/Interview
Submissions: Maccano1
Eternal Light Extinguished
LA-G falls as the Coalition struggle against mounting Shadow pressure
I shall begin with the stats as always, they do not lie at least.
War stats as of 18:00 (Sunday)
Side 1:
Tribes: Shadow
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: Nstlk* Dstlk* LA-G TK [IRON] FURY
Players:
Timeframe: 16/08/2009 18:00:00 to 23/08/2009 18:00:00
Total conquers:
Side 1: 366
Side 2: 294
Difference: 72
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 212
Side 2: 16
Difference: 196
Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 3,356,885
Side 2: 1,499,462
Difference: 1,857,423
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 1,983,470
Side 2: 152,267
Difference: 1,831,203
Side 1:
Tribes: Shadow
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: Nstlk* Dstlk*
Players:
Timeframe: 16/08/2009 18:00:00 to 23/08/2009 18:00:00
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 89
Side 2: 2
Difference: 87
Side 1:
Tribes: Shadow
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: [IRON]
Players:
Timeframe: 16/08/2009 18:00:00 to 23/08/2009 18:00:00
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 6
Side 2: 4
Difference: 2
Side 1:
Tribes: Shadow
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: TK
Players:
Timeframe: 16/08/2009 18:00:00 to 23/08/2009 18:00:00
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 86
Side 2: 6
Difference: 80
Side 1:
Tribes: Shadow
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: LA-G
Players:
Timeframe: 16/08/2009 18:00:00 to 23/08/2009 18:00:00
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 8
Side 2: 0
Difference: 8
Side 1:
Tribes: Shadow
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: FURY
Players:
Timeframe: 16/08/2009 18:00:00 to 23/08/2009 18:00:00
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 23
Side 2: 4
Difference: 19
KnightFall
Shadow extinguishes LA-G
Zarin
synister zero
My thanks to maccano1 here who has fulfilled the criterion of being related to TW for once instead of my ramblings.
The Death of the Fake
Stats
Top Ten Tribes
1 Shadow 54.315.314 62.681.989 64 979.406 6400 9.794
2 [IRON] 13.896.380 16.873.410 79 213.587 2001 8.432
3 Nstlk* 13.499.323 15.690.653 74 212.036 1803 8.703
4 REF 12.872.112 12.872.112 13 990.162 1314 9.796
5 TK 11.798.862 12.396.356 57 217.480 1471 8.427
6 *TKP* 6.898.933 7.102.000 49 144.939 911 7.796
7 FURY 4.757.104 5.022.367 61 82.334 645 7.787
8 SAM 2.619.371 2.619.371 24 109.140 390 6.716
9 Dstlk* 2.132.215 2.144.562 50 42.891 311 6.896
10 SoD 1.608.112 1.762.978 84 20.988 333 5.294
Top Ten Players
1 theSleepwalker REF 2.661.222 260 10235
2 ftw97 Shadow 2.490.378 253 9843
3 Carthon II Shadow 2.404.113 248 9694
4 gerick6 Shadow 2.280.633 224 10181
5 mikestuntz Shadow 2.267.991 224 10125
6 Zarin Shadow 2.106.189 209 10077
7 Mande1992 Shadow 2.029.287 207 9803
8 BrobFellshank Shadow 1.997.461 200 9987
9 filphillip Shadow 1.936.349 203 9539
10 toby7304 Shadow 1.862.188 188 9905
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[spoil]Zarin – Editor/Interview
Submissions: Maccano1
Eternal Light Extinguished
LA-G falls as the Coalition struggle against mounting Shadow pressure
I shall begin with the stats as always, they do not lie at least.
War stats as of 18:00 (Sunday)
Side 1:
Tribes: Shadow
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: Nstlk* Dstlk* LA-G TK [IRON] FURY
Players:
Timeframe: 16/08/2009 18:00:00 to 23/08/2009 18:00:00
Total conquers:
Side 1: 366
Side 2: 294
Difference: 72
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 212
Side 2: 16
Difference: 196
Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 3,356,885
Side 2: 1,499,462
Difference: 1,857,423
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 1,983,470
Side 2: 152,267
Difference: 1,831,203
Side 1:
Tribes: Shadow
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: Nstlk* Dstlk*
Players:
Timeframe: 16/08/2009 18:00:00 to 23/08/2009 18:00:00
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 89
Side 2: 2
Difference: 87
Side 1:
Tribes: Shadow
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: [IRON]
Players:
Timeframe: 16/08/2009 18:00:00 to 23/08/2009 18:00:00
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 6
Side 2: 4
Difference: 2
Side 1:
Tribes: Shadow
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: TK
Players:
Timeframe: 16/08/2009 18:00:00 to 23/08/2009 18:00:00
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 86
Side 2: 6
Difference: 80
Side 1:
Tribes: Shadow
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: LA-G
Players:
Timeframe: 16/08/2009 18:00:00 to 23/08/2009 18:00:00
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 8
Side 2: 0
Difference: 8
Side 1:
Tribes: Shadow
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: FURY
Players:
Timeframe: 16/08/2009 18:00:00 to 23/08/2009 18:00:00
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 23
Side 2: 4
Difference: 19
There is no way of avoiding the fact that the Coalition has suffered a heavy defeat this week. The difference of almost 200 conquers is a indictment of the seemingly growing disparity between the two sides. Shadow has been victorious on every single front even if by small margins.
Unfortunately, the demise of LA-G and the subsequent dispersal of those members to other tribes has affected the stats negatively for Nstlk* in particular as they have taken in Coalition players whom they would have struggled to help even if they wanted to.
Even so, a reply of just 2 conquers is testament to a heavily weakened tribe in the wake of the formation of REF and the many weeks of war that they have endured. If there were hopes of regrouping after the admittance of some LA-G players to make a stronger Nstlk*, these must surely have been crushed by the loss of SnipeAlott, their largest player and gambitv, both to REF. With many large players in the area having already moved to REF, one must surely expect others to follow suit, leaving the less experienced and smaller players to fend for themselves.
Elsewhere, TK struggle again this week to account for their losses with a meagre six conquers. They also seem to show heavy losses from the very top of their membership , but these players have failed to make the conquers against Shadow which may have been expected in light of their group of large members. It seems that they have struggled with the mantra of leading by example and the tribe has suffered as a result. One would suppose that the only good thing that can be taken from this week is that TK made the most conquers against Shadow.
In the North, it has been a slow week, testament either to excellent defence, or mere apathy or even softer targets. Whatever the case, Shadow will take heart from a lead in the stats here, though the prophet of the North maintains his zeal. Let us hope that the stats for next week are far more interesting…
Chronic underdogs FURY enjoyed another decent week this time around compared with their beginnings. Despite an obvious disparity in conquers, the numbers are small and FURY are seeming to hold together surprisingly well considering the probable lack of experience among the membership.
Meanwhile, LA-G defied expectations of a miserable slide into obscurity and defeat with an unexpected merge into the various Coalition constituents. Unfortunately, this comes too late to prevent Shadow acquisition of valuable core territory and in the wake of the ravaging of their duke – ashiwwru12.
Shadow for their part have shown a strong front this week. With gains on every front and the disbandment of one of their enemies, this has been an excellent week which they shall build upon. It seems that the initial efforts of the Coalition have dwindled, highlighting their disadvantage in having such a low average size of member. While Shadow players can maintain assaults on their own, the Coalition must rely upon coordination between several members; should this not happen, then attacks can turn into incongruous messes.
What is perhaps most interesting is the fact that both sides are still heavily nobling other targets. The Coalition are far worse offenders, and one must seriously be wondering where all of these conquers are going; then again, it is more villages for Shadow to take and a simple war of attrition could be the order of the day. On the other hand, Shadow’s other conquers are at least of large villages, even if there are a significant number coming from internal noblings.
Whatever the case, it has been a strong showing for Shadow and a disappointing week for the Coalition. If this continues, then they simply will not be able to contend.
Unfortunately, the demise of LA-G and the subsequent dispersal of those members to other tribes has affected the stats negatively for Nstlk* in particular as they have taken in Coalition players whom they would have struggled to help even if they wanted to.
Even so, a reply of just 2 conquers is testament to a heavily weakened tribe in the wake of the formation of REF and the many weeks of war that they have endured. If there were hopes of regrouping after the admittance of some LA-G players to make a stronger Nstlk*, these must surely have been crushed by the loss of SnipeAlott, their largest player and gambitv, both to REF. With many large players in the area having already moved to REF, one must surely expect others to follow suit, leaving the less experienced and smaller players to fend for themselves.
Elsewhere, TK struggle again this week to account for their losses with a meagre six conquers. They also seem to show heavy losses from the very top of their membership , but these players have failed to make the conquers against Shadow which may have been expected in light of their group of large members. It seems that they have struggled with the mantra of leading by example and the tribe has suffered as a result. One would suppose that the only good thing that can be taken from this week is that TK made the most conquers against Shadow.
In the North, it has been a slow week, testament either to excellent defence, or mere apathy or even softer targets. Whatever the case, Shadow will take heart from a lead in the stats here, though the prophet of the North maintains his zeal. Let us hope that the stats for next week are far more interesting…
Chronic underdogs FURY enjoyed another decent week this time around compared with their beginnings. Despite an obvious disparity in conquers, the numbers are small and FURY are seeming to hold together surprisingly well considering the probable lack of experience among the membership.
Meanwhile, LA-G defied expectations of a miserable slide into obscurity and defeat with an unexpected merge into the various Coalition constituents. Unfortunately, this comes too late to prevent Shadow acquisition of valuable core territory and in the wake of the ravaging of their duke – ashiwwru12.
Shadow for their part have shown a strong front this week. With gains on every front and the disbandment of one of their enemies, this has been an excellent week which they shall build upon. It seems that the initial efforts of the Coalition have dwindled, highlighting their disadvantage in having such a low average size of member. While Shadow players can maintain assaults on their own, the Coalition must rely upon coordination between several members; should this not happen, then attacks can turn into incongruous messes.
What is perhaps most interesting is the fact that both sides are still heavily nobling other targets. The Coalition are far worse offenders, and one must seriously be wondering where all of these conquers are going; then again, it is more villages for Shadow to take and a simple war of attrition could be the order of the day. On the other hand, Shadow’s other conquers are at least of large villages, even if there are a significant number coming from internal noblings.
Whatever the case, it has been a strong showing for Shadow and a disappointing week for the Coalition. If this continues, then they simply will not be able to contend.
KnightFall
Shadow extinguishes LA-G
Enjoy the headline while it lasts, it’s probably the best example of paronomasia that I’ll include in an article (it’s not even mine, but kudos to you if you know where I got it from).
Anyway, despite my expectation of LA-G’s demise to be as woeful as their rise, they made a surprising move in distributing their members among the other Coalition tribes. Of course, a tribe like LA-G doesn’t simply die, it lingers on, whether as the butt of many jokes; as an example of how to make a tribe or simply for the schadenfreude. Regardless, it is simply another chapter in W27 history coming to a close.
LA-G has often had a proud history, but it was always disproportionate. Despite looking strong on paper, few were prepared for the debacle of their war with ATTACK or their bathetic exit here. It is a classic example of how poor recruitment choice and inept leadership will ruin tribes and will no doubt earn a place in W27 legend as a synonym for failure.
It is an effort to note any real achievements, their placements in the rankings were ill deserved and they have had no notable military successes. Nevertheless, it is a nostalgic moment for W27 veterans who see this entity come to an end as anything vaguely meaningful.
I shall conclude simply by thanking those members who made LA-G what it was and note that not all should be tarnished with the same brush. You are an intrinsic part of W27 history and when the final history of this world is created (that’ll be me writing that I suppose) you will feature prominently.
Anyway, despite my expectation of LA-G’s demise to be as woeful as their rise, they made a surprising move in distributing their members among the other Coalition tribes. Of course, a tribe like LA-G doesn’t simply die, it lingers on, whether as the butt of many jokes; as an example of how to make a tribe or simply for the schadenfreude. Regardless, it is simply another chapter in W27 history coming to a close.
LA-G has often had a proud history, but it was always disproportionate. Despite looking strong on paper, few were prepared for the debacle of their war with ATTACK or their bathetic exit here. It is a classic example of how poor recruitment choice and inept leadership will ruin tribes and will no doubt earn a place in W27 legend as a synonym for failure.
It is an effort to note any real achievements, their placements in the rankings were ill deserved and they have had no notable military successes. Nevertheless, it is a nostalgic moment for W27 veterans who see this entity come to an end as anything vaguely meaningful.
I shall conclude simply by thanking those members who made LA-G what it was and note that not all should be tarnished with the same brush. You are an intrinsic part of W27 history and when the final history of this world is created (that’ll be me writing that I suppose) you will feature prominently.
In Other News…
- REF and Shadow continue light skirmishes, though neither side has admitted to any real war. Perhaps it is simply a case of attacking and hoping that the other will simply sweep it under the rug. Let’s hope at least that this is not all either side has to offer.
Interview
Zarin
synister zero
Greetings Synister Zero
I am writing to as whether you might be interested in partaking in an interview for the W27 Weekly. I assume you are familiar with the format as of late, and you evidently have plenty to say about the conflict, so this could be a very interesting video indeed. You are welcome to be as outspoken and sensationalist as ever, because that will inevitably make for a good interview.
Zarin
Sure, it’s great to be able to talk with you over a medium other than the forums.
Well let us begin with a friendly question which would be: why do you call yourself Synister Zero?
The reason I call myself Synister Zero is because it best descibes my personality in my interaction with others. A stranger on the street would most likely describe me as a Synister character yet mysterious in my demeanor
Interesting, I suppose you are sinister too due to your prophecies. So how did you come to Tribal Wars?
To be honest I cant remember, I first played tw about 1.5 - 2 years ago quit and then returned about 9 months ago.
Ah, so which was you first world and how did you get on?
Either 6 or 7, back then I played tribalhugs and learned from my past mistakes, I must have found this game either in an advertisment or while doing a search for browser based games.
Were you rimmed, or did you quit?
I quit right before I was rimmed, the rimming was inevitable.
Fair enough. Did you play any worlds between that one and W27?
World 27 is my third world, right before I joined this one I played on world 13.
A popular choice, did that go any better for you?
I was still playing tribal hugs on world 13 as well, I did however get the basic down about balanced villages and no to mix them so its all a learning experience in the end.
Naturally, naturally; we all have to learn somewhere. So why did you suddenly return for W27?
I remebered all the fun I had interacting with others on the interal tribe forums, thats the main reason I keep coming back.
Was there any particular reason you chose W27, or was it simpy the newest world at the time?
It just happened to be the newest world, interestingly enough I happened to be locked into a tribe with Ash when I joined.
Oh right, what did you think of ash?
I considered him the same as the rest of the tribe I was lock into, just an annoying useless illiterate newb clown who thought he could boss people around.
Your opinion I suppose, I shall not argue it. What did you think of the whole tribe lock idea?
At first it angered me befor forced to stay in a tribe with people I didnt respect or like but as time went on I began enjoy playing solo and gained experience from crushing everyone around me who were allso forced to play solo without help from their tribes. I managed to go from playing tribal hugs to a strong offensive player as a result of the tribe lock.
Finally there are some positives about the lock. So, broadly speaking, how did you come to end up in [IRON], I assume you are not there by the grace of your prophecy making?
Thats a story in itsself which I will simplefy as much as possible. After YGI merged into nstlk, I was originally thinking of joining up with Shadow but I never got around to asking for an invite nor did they seem to beleave me a prospect worthy of going out of their to entice me to join them. I shortly after joined up with nstlk as the rest of YGI did and left them the day they declared war on Shadow ( ATTACK at the time). The only two options left in my regions were K25PG and *EPIC. I chose K25PG which would later merge with SORRY! to become [IRON].
What did you think of YGI??
They were my cake and icecream, I dont blame macca for trying to bring back those days of glory. Never had I been more proud to be a member of any tribe than when I was a member of YGI. We had everything you could ask for in a tribe great members, 100% activity, Leadership you would gladly follow to the pits of hell if asked to.
So then, what went wrong?
We merged into Nstlk and everything we stood for was lost. We became just another average tribe, what was special about us just didnt seem to be their anymore.
Then why did the merge happen?
I was just a member YGI and not part of the leadership so I dont know what went on behind the scenes at the highest levels, thier is allway something going on their. The offical reason given to the members was to create a tribe strong enough to defeat ATTACK.
Why then did you leave Nstlk* before the war (with ATTACK)?
To be honest I thought they were a bunch of douches, Not only did they declare war on YGI my tribe at the time but ATTACK as well, both tribes being their ally at the time of the declaration. To make things worse random topics kept poping up about how they kicked YGI ass and how we stood no chance of winning. Both reason dont leave much room for trust building exercises. Take note though the current incarnation of nstlk isnt run by tacops or what ever the master spy was named and the rest of the original leadership.
Interesting; do think that the tribe was strong enough to take on ATTACK (i.e. sans the merge with ~AOW~)?
I didnt really care if they were strong enough to take ATTACK on or vice versa. As long as the two superpowers of w27 were caught in total equalibrium long enough what they did was irrelevent to the rest of the world, allmsot as if they didnt exist at all.
So you took advantage of this and moved to a different tribe: K25PG, the in between period if you will. How and why did you come to that particular tribe?
My PA spaniard and myself had a deep history with this tribe. For month the two of us terrorized this tribe to know end, we took villages from them with total impunity, crushed all attempts to oppose us. To them we must have been the boogymen. The one thing that stood out to myself as we assailed them is that they didnt give up or quit, they preserved and became so much stronger when most tribes would have fallen. That is the reason I chose them because when things get tough and all chances of victory seem impossible I know they wont stop fighting.
What did you see for the future of K25PG?
I saw great potential in them, an instrument which I could mold into a weapon to use against the winner of the Great war between Nstlk and Shadow. Everything I did was to prepare them for the inevitable was which has come to pass. For the most part part they couldnt see the immenent threat the lurked to their south. Nstlk who were k25pgs allies at the time, I knew they would betray us when the time was right as they had done to every ally they ever had. Shadow would pretend to be rightous and honorable and wipe all the tribes out one by one. I knew all of this from the start and prepared for it, months and months of planning . the War involving K25Pg and their ally SORRY! vs *Epic just seemed like two job tribes picking on a smaller tribe but in reality it was to gain a stronghold in k35 in order to safeguard the main continent and to have a platform to launch our nukes at shadow when the time was right. No one to my knowledge could see what we were planning in Shadow besides frombie, he seem right through our agressive acts from the start. everyone else just seen it as a random act of two newb tribes trying to gain some attention. I had seen all of this plus so much more in k25pg's future when i decided to join them.
All of this is part of our worlds history and should be shared. their are so many events transpiring in w27 past present and future that only a few people actually have knowledge of.
Naturally, this is why I ask, to reveal the intricacies of the politics
The war against *Epic went very well, but do you think that your tribes would have been better served by attacking a stronger tribe to give them more experience?
Possibly but killing off *EPIC just completed to many objectives in preparing us for this war that it had to be done as soon as possible.
And one would assume that the merge to create [IRON] made excellent sense. Had you been impressed by SORRY! or did you merely need more members?
The merge of the two tribes had allrdy been set in motion befor I joined, all that remained was the details of the merging. who would be in what position of authority and such.
Indeed, so what role did you take up in the tribe?
No comment.
That’s a shame, but never mind.
Did you expect Nstlk* to put up more of a fight?
I expected the balance to shift eventually and made plans accordingly.
I assume you won’t be commenting there either, so we’ll move on. How did the Coalition come to be?
Through talks amongst the leaders of the tribes about a common enemy and how best to deal with said enemy.
I suppose the biggest question is: did you leave it too late, would it have been better to form the Coalition a littler earlier?
Its not to late but without a doubt declaring just when the fighting had began in k45 would have been more effective.
What do you think of Shadow, now that you are at war; did you under-estimate them or over-estimate them?
Neither, I knew that the tribe that gained the lead during the war between Shadow and nstlk would be without a doubt be most challenging endever I have ever faced in timeline of playing tw to date. The trick is to know how to fight an enemy who cant be beaten through conquest and at the same time can defeat your through conquest if given enough time.
I take it then that you still believe that you will win
I dont believe we will win, I know we will win.
Is that due to your prophecy?
More like a trump card.
Interesting, I take it you won't be commenting
Well if i told you what it was then I could guarantee that as things are we would not win this war.
How novel, please excuse me if I am not in the least worried by this trump card of yours. Well, I shall not delve into your plans, but I shall ask you simply for your opinion on how the war is progressing.
So far the war is still in its early stages and will last at a minimum 6-9 months befor any decisive progress is scene. At this time it is clear that Shadow is holding their owne and getting the upperhand over the coalition everywhere besides the north east and west where Nstlk and [iron] are holding their owne and even pushing Shadow back with solid planning and a number of "Miracles. Overall though it is still much to early to be declaring either side the inevitable winner through facts and logic when their is so much fight left in the warring factions.
So you are not concerned by the recent stats showing a significant lead for Shadow?
The stats are completely irrelevent, Their has never been a clear case in w27 where a major tribe was every destroyed through conquest. What kills tribes in this world is internal strife. Shadow will not destroy the coalition through war neither will the coalition destroy Shadow. What will win this war will be perserverance.
I would agree, and this concept has been demonstrated, but would you not agree that a significant disparity in conquers can cause internal strife due to its effects on the morale of the tribe?
If a tribe has good leadership a situation such as that should only make them stronger and build closer bonds. cases where a tribe falls apart demonstrates a great ineptitude in a tribes leadership.
Indeed, but such leaders are few and far between.
[IRON] has such leaders and from what I can see Shadow allso has such leaders.
Then of concern should be your allies who may not benefit from such ostensibly strong leadership; if they fall, do you think that [IRON] has the ability to stand alone?
No tribe has the ability to stand alone against shadow at this time. The reason for the coalition is because the leadership of all of these tribes came to that realization.
Of course, let us move on. What are your thoughts on REF?
REF huh, I have nothing but respect for their members as most of them were my old tribe mates back in the days of YGI? as a tribe in the political sense they are a great potential enemy that could give [Iron] problems in the future and have further weakened the absolute power structure in the north and further divided the power held by certain tribes in the north into more factions. They could allso become potential allies who could help fight off Shadow.
What do you see in store for a) yourself b) [IRON] c) Shadow d) REF e) the rest of the world?
A) What happens to me as an individual playing on this world is of no consqeuence
B) I can see [IRON] becoming a superpower in the post "Shadow Wars" geopolitical world. Their main ojective at this point is to gain as much fighting experience and learn to cordinate their attacks befor the real fighting begins. When I say real fighting I mean this childrens game in the north we are playing with shadow will be nothing compared to when we crush the north and attempt to take shadows core.
C) I can see Shadow being pushing pushed back and a line drawn across the map.
D) As for Reformation I cant tell what their ultimate objective is nor do I wish to to make any type of unfounded accusations toward them.
E) For the rest of the world I see their isolated territories falling to Shadow befor they Draw a line at their main cluster and begin to push shadow back.
Let us talk about your prophecy if we might. How did this prophecy of yours come about?
They are the words of those who shape worlds.
I suppose your cryptic answers seem to you to grant you ethereal wisdom.
not so much, you wont understand because you dont believe in the prophecy
Do you seriously believe in it?
Why would I not? The words of the prophecy ring true for all to see day after day.
In your opinion; there are many who believe that it is done in jest. What if you are wrong?
Such silly questions Zarin, Do you really believe that k35 and k36 will not fall under the total dominance of [IRON]. Through the actions of my lords the world shapers We have allrdy become the second most powerful tribe of w27 and the premier power in the north now that nstlk has broken up into two trbes. Name one thing that I have said that would happen that hasnt?
That is not the point though, is it? The prophecy has not yet been fulfilled and just because events may seem to be heading in that direction is by no means an indication that the prophecy will come to pass. I merely asked a hypothetical question, I did not ask whether it would happen.
Could we at least have the full version of the prophecy?
No; for others to know the entire prophecy would make any further continueation of this world irrelevent for everyone - whats the point of playing a game if you know who is going to win and who is going to lose befor you even start
That assumes that people believe the prophecy and take it to mean what you do.
People can choose to believe in what they want, doesnt change the fact that it can kill them regardless of if they believe in it or not.
True enough, but not every prophecy ever made has come true and even if yours did, you may have simply misinterpreted it. You suggested that the North would fall and [IRON] would become the premier northern power. That does not mean that Shadow will not conquer everything else and does not mean that [IRON] will retain said power. I sense that you are still committed and I am still sceptical, so we shall move on once more.
If Shadow is defeated, how do you think that it will come about?
Shadow can not be defeated in the traditional sense. The only way to end shadow is from within. We may be able to cut off a leg or an arm but bringing the beast down through combat is an allmost impossible task as anyone can see. The same can be said about the coalition and if Shadow thinks otherwise they are surely ignorant.
If Shadow were to fall, what would you predict for the future of the world (everyone has their theories I am sure).
I wont go into great detail but I will say their will be a new treaty drafted which would enact a one month peace agreement between all members of the coalition after which all diplomatic stats would be reset. The point of which would be to once again bring balance to a broken world thus saving world 27.
I dont actually see shadow becoming completely extinct, just critically wounded. The remnant of Shadow would reform under a new name as well.
And who do you think would come out on top of such a situation in the end?
As I have stated earlier in the interview true balance would be restored to W27. Some tribe may come out of the war slightly stronger than others but nothing to traumatic.
Do you feel that Shadow has ‘ruined’ W27? Indeed, what are your thoughts on Shadow?
I dont feel that Shadow have ruined W27, they are only an essential part of the current scenario nothing more nothing less. I dont much have personal feeling about Shadow, it’s largely irrelevant.
Of course; so then, what is your favourite part of TW?
My favorite part of tw without a doubt is all the hatemail I receive from everyone. Nothing motivates me more to log in everyday than the thought of another human thinking me worthy enough to empart a large portion of their hatred and malice toward myself in the form of a congragation of random illiterate non sensical banter.
Who is your favourite forum personality?
My favorite forum personality has to be Lord of Bones. Not only is LoB A complete tool but a complete tool who makes everyone else look vastly more intelligent everytime he posts.
Is there a current player on W27 that you would like to fight?
Their is no one on tribal wars who I wish to fight. I dont actually see people when I play just multicolored dots some who I allow to grow others who must to hampered and a select few who must be crushed.
If Shadow wins the war against the Coalition, do you think that REF and whoever is left can stand against them?
Can Ref defeat Shadow if the coalition falls? is that a joke or something? Shadow will crush Reformation beneath their boots like a bug 1 vs 1. I cant believe I was asked such a stupid question.
Woah, I was just asking the stock questions.
Will you be returning to another world of Tribal Wars after W27 or packing it in?
I will most likely take a brake from tw for a few months befor once again returning.
Do you think Shadow deserves to win W27?
I will answere that question like this, If Shadow falls then they deserved to fall. If Shadow conquers the entire world then they deserved to. In this world you get what you deserve nothing more nothing less.
It is a good answer; I think that wraps things up. It was a pleasure, thank you for your time. Good luck with the war.
Thank you Zarin, it was a pleasure; good luck to you too.
I am writing to as whether you might be interested in partaking in an interview for the W27 Weekly. I assume you are familiar with the format as of late, and you evidently have plenty to say about the conflict, so this could be a very interesting video indeed. You are welcome to be as outspoken and sensationalist as ever, because that will inevitably make for a good interview.
Zarin
Sure, it’s great to be able to talk with you over a medium other than the forums.
Well let us begin with a friendly question which would be: why do you call yourself Synister Zero?
The reason I call myself Synister Zero is because it best descibes my personality in my interaction with others. A stranger on the street would most likely describe me as a Synister character yet mysterious in my demeanor
Interesting, I suppose you are sinister too due to your prophecies. So how did you come to Tribal Wars?
To be honest I cant remember, I first played tw about 1.5 - 2 years ago quit and then returned about 9 months ago.
Ah, so which was you first world and how did you get on?
Either 6 or 7, back then I played tribalhugs and learned from my past mistakes, I must have found this game either in an advertisment or while doing a search for browser based games.
Were you rimmed, or did you quit?
I quit right before I was rimmed, the rimming was inevitable.
Fair enough. Did you play any worlds between that one and W27?
World 27 is my third world, right before I joined this one I played on world 13.
A popular choice, did that go any better for you?
I was still playing tribal hugs on world 13 as well, I did however get the basic down about balanced villages and no to mix them so its all a learning experience in the end.
Naturally, naturally; we all have to learn somewhere. So why did you suddenly return for W27?
I remebered all the fun I had interacting with others on the interal tribe forums, thats the main reason I keep coming back.
Was there any particular reason you chose W27, or was it simpy the newest world at the time?
It just happened to be the newest world, interestingly enough I happened to be locked into a tribe with Ash when I joined.
Oh right, what did you think of ash?
I considered him the same as the rest of the tribe I was lock into, just an annoying useless illiterate newb clown who thought he could boss people around.
Your opinion I suppose, I shall not argue it. What did you think of the whole tribe lock idea?
At first it angered me befor forced to stay in a tribe with people I didnt respect or like but as time went on I began enjoy playing solo and gained experience from crushing everyone around me who were allso forced to play solo without help from their tribes. I managed to go from playing tribal hugs to a strong offensive player as a result of the tribe lock.
Finally there are some positives about the lock. So, broadly speaking, how did you come to end up in [IRON], I assume you are not there by the grace of your prophecy making?
Thats a story in itsself which I will simplefy as much as possible. After YGI merged into nstlk, I was originally thinking of joining up with Shadow but I never got around to asking for an invite nor did they seem to beleave me a prospect worthy of going out of their to entice me to join them. I shortly after joined up with nstlk as the rest of YGI did and left them the day they declared war on Shadow ( ATTACK at the time). The only two options left in my regions were K25PG and *EPIC. I chose K25PG which would later merge with SORRY! to become [IRON].
What did you think of YGI??
They were my cake and icecream, I dont blame macca for trying to bring back those days of glory. Never had I been more proud to be a member of any tribe than when I was a member of YGI. We had everything you could ask for in a tribe great members, 100% activity, Leadership you would gladly follow to the pits of hell if asked to.
So then, what went wrong?
We merged into Nstlk and everything we stood for was lost. We became just another average tribe, what was special about us just didnt seem to be their anymore.
Then why did the merge happen?
I was just a member YGI and not part of the leadership so I dont know what went on behind the scenes at the highest levels, thier is allway something going on their. The offical reason given to the members was to create a tribe strong enough to defeat ATTACK.
Why then did you leave Nstlk* before the war (with ATTACK)?
To be honest I thought they were a bunch of douches, Not only did they declare war on YGI my tribe at the time but ATTACK as well, both tribes being their ally at the time of the declaration. To make things worse random topics kept poping up about how they kicked YGI ass and how we stood no chance of winning. Both reason dont leave much room for trust building exercises. Take note though the current incarnation of nstlk isnt run by tacops or what ever the master spy was named and the rest of the original leadership.
Interesting; do think that the tribe was strong enough to take on ATTACK (i.e. sans the merge with ~AOW~)?
I didnt really care if they were strong enough to take ATTACK on or vice versa. As long as the two superpowers of w27 were caught in total equalibrium long enough what they did was irrelevent to the rest of the world, allmsot as if they didnt exist at all.
So you took advantage of this and moved to a different tribe: K25PG, the in between period if you will. How and why did you come to that particular tribe?
My PA spaniard and myself had a deep history with this tribe. For month the two of us terrorized this tribe to know end, we took villages from them with total impunity, crushed all attempts to oppose us. To them we must have been the boogymen. The one thing that stood out to myself as we assailed them is that they didnt give up or quit, they preserved and became so much stronger when most tribes would have fallen. That is the reason I chose them because when things get tough and all chances of victory seem impossible I know they wont stop fighting.
What did you see for the future of K25PG?
I saw great potential in them, an instrument which I could mold into a weapon to use against the winner of the Great war between Nstlk and Shadow. Everything I did was to prepare them for the inevitable was which has come to pass. For the most part part they couldnt see the immenent threat the lurked to their south. Nstlk who were k25pgs allies at the time, I knew they would betray us when the time was right as they had done to every ally they ever had. Shadow would pretend to be rightous and honorable and wipe all the tribes out one by one. I knew all of this from the start and prepared for it, months and months of planning . the War involving K25Pg and their ally SORRY! vs *Epic just seemed like two job tribes picking on a smaller tribe but in reality it was to gain a stronghold in k35 in order to safeguard the main continent and to have a platform to launch our nukes at shadow when the time was right. No one to my knowledge could see what we were planning in Shadow besides frombie, he seem right through our agressive acts from the start. everyone else just seen it as a random act of two newb tribes trying to gain some attention. I had seen all of this plus so much more in k25pg's future when i decided to join them.
All of this is part of our worlds history and should be shared. their are so many events transpiring in w27 past present and future that only a few people actually have knowledge of.
Naturally, this is why I ask, to reveal the intricacies of the politics
The war against *Epic went very well, but do you think that your tribes would have been better served by attacking a stronger tribe to give them more experience?
Possibly but killing off *EPIC just completed to many objectives in preparing us for this war that it had to be done as soon as possible.
And one would assume that the merge to create [IRON] made excellent sense. Had you been impressed by SORRY! or did you merely need more members?
The merge of the two tribes had allrdy been set in motion befor I joined, all that remained was the details of the merging. who would be in what position of authority and such.
Indeed, so what role did you take up in the tribe?
No comment.
That’s a shame, but never mind.
Did you expect Nstlk* to put up more of a fight?
I expected the balance to shift eventually and made plans accordingly.
I assume you won’t be commenting there either, so we’ll move on. How did the Coalition come to be?
Through talks amongst the leaders of the tribes about a common enemy and how best to deal with said enemy.
I suppose the biggest question is: did you leave it too late, would it have been better to form the Coalition a littler earlier?
Its not to late but without a doubt declaring just when the fighting had began in k45 would have been more effective.
What do you think of Shadow, now that you are at war; did you under-estimate them or over-estimate them?
Neither, I knew that the tribe that gained the lead during the war between Shadow and nstlk would be without a doubt be most challenging endever I have ever faced in timeline of playing tw to date. The trick is to know how to fight an enemy who cant be beaten through conquest and at the same time can defeat your through conquest if given enough time.
I take it then that you still believe that you will win
I dont believe we will win, I know we will win.
Is that due to your prophecy?
More like a trump card.
Interesting, I take it you won't be commenting
Well if i told you what it was then I could guarantee that as things are we would not win this war.
How novel, please excuse me if I am not in the least worried by this trump card of yours. Well, I shall not delve into your plans, but I shall ask you simply for your opinion on how the war is progressing.
So far the war is still in its early stages and will last at a minimum 6-9 months befor any decisive progress is scene. At this time it is clear that Shadow is holding their owne and getting the upperhand over the coalition everywhere besides the north east and west where Nstlk and [iron] are holding their owne and even pushing Shadow back with solid planning and a number of "Miracles. Overall though it is still much to early to be declaring either side the inevitable winner through facts and logic when their is so much fight left in the warring factions.
So you are not concerned by the recent stats showing a significant lead for Shadow?
The stats are completely irrelevent, Their has never been a clear case in w27 where a major tribe was every destroyed through conquest. What kills tribes in this world is internal strife. Shadow will not destroy the coalition through war neither will the coalition destroy Shadow. What will win this war will be perserverance.
I would agree, and this concept has been demonstrated, but would you not agree that a significant disparity in conquers can cause internal strife due to its effects on the morale of the tribe?
If a tribe has good leadership a situation such as that should only make them stronger and build closer bonds. cases where a tribe falls apart demonstrates a great ineptitude in a tribes leadership.
Indeed, but such leaders are few and far between.
[IRON] has such leaders and from what I can see Shadow allso has such leaders.
Then of concern should be your allies who may not benefit from such ostensibly strong leadership; if they fall, do you think that [IRON] has the ability to stand alone?
No tribe has the ability to stand alone against shadow at this time. The reason for the coalition is because the leadership of all of these tribes came to that realization.
Of course, let us move on. What are your thoughts on REF?
REF huh, I have nothing but respect for their members as most of them were my old tribe mates back in the days of YGI? as a tribe in the political sense they are a great potential enemy that could give [Iron] problems in the future and have further weakened the absolute power structure in the north and further divided the power held by certain tribes in the north into more factions. They could allso become potential allies who could help fight off Shadow.
What do you see in store for a) yourself b) [IRON] c) Shadow d) REF e) the rest of the world?
A) What happens to me as an individual playing on this world is of no consqeuence
B) I can see [IRON] becoming a superpower in the post "Shadow Wars" geopolitical world. Their main ojective at this point is to gain as much fighting experience and learn to cordinate their attacks befor the real fighting begins. When I say real fighting I mean this childrens game in the north we are playing with shadow will be nothing compared to when we crush the north and attempt to take shadows core.
C) I can see Shadow being pushing pushed back and a line drawn across the map.
D) As for Reformation I cant tell what their ultimate objective is nor do I wish to to make any type of unfounded accusations toward them.
E) For the rest of the world I see their isolated territories falling to Shadow befor they Draw a line at their main cluster and begin to push shadow back.
Let us talk about your prophecy if we might. How did this prophecy of yours come about?
They are the words of those who shape worlds.
I suppose your cryptic answers seem to you to grant you ethereal wisdom.
not so much, you wont understand because you dont believe in the prophecy
Do you seriously believe in it?
Why would I not? The words of the prophecy ring true for all to see day after day.
In your opinion; there are many who believe that it is done in jest. What if you are wrong?
Such silly questions Zarin, Do you really believe that k35 and k36 will not fall under the total dominance of [IRON]. Through the actions of my lords the world shapers We have allrdy become the second most powerful tribe of w27 and the premier power in the north now that nstlk has broken up into two trbes. Name one thing that I have said that would happen that hasnt?
That is not the point though, is it? The prophecy has not yet been fulfilled and just because events may seem to be heading in that direction is by no means an indication that the prophecy will come to pass. I merely asked a hypothetical question, I did not ask whether it would happen.
Could we at least have the full version of the prophecy?
No; for others to know the entire prophecy would make any further continueation of this world irrelevent for everyone - whats the point of playing a game if you know who is going to win and who is going to lose befor you even start
That assumes that people believe the prophecy and take it to mean what you do.
People can choose to believe in what they want, doesnt change the fact that it can kill them regardless of if they believe in it or not.
True enough, but not every prophecy ever made has come true and even if yours did, you may have simply misinterpreted it. You suggested that the North would fall and [IRON] would become the premier northern power. That does not mean that Shadow will not conquer everything else and does not mean that [IRON] will retain said power. I sense that you are still committed and I am still sceptical, so we shall move on once more.
If Shadow is defeated, how do you think that it will come about?
Shadow can not be defeated in the traditional sense. The only way to end shadow is from within. We may be able to cut off a leg or an arm but bringing the beast down through combat is an allmost impossible task as anyone can see. The same can be said about the coalition and if Shadow thinks otherwise they are surely ignorant.
If Shadow were to fall, what would you predict for the future of the world (everyone has their theories I am sure).
I wont go into great detail but I will say their will be a new treaty drafted which would enact a one month peace agreement between all members of the coalition after which all diplomatic stats would be reset. The point of which would be to once again bring balance to a broken world thus saving world 27.
I dont actually see shadow becoming completely extinct, just critically wounded. The remnant of Shadow would reform under a new name as well.
And who do you think would come out on top of such a situation in the end?
As I have stated earlier in the interview true balance would be restored to W27. Some tribe may come out of the war slightly stronger than others but nothing to traumatic.
Do you feel that Shadow has ‘ruined’ W27? Indeed, what are your thoughts on Shadow?
I dont feel that Shadow have ruined W27, they are only an essential part of the current scenario nothing more nothing less. I dont much have personal feeling about Shadow, it’s largely irrelevant.
Of course; so then, what is your favourite part of TW?
My favorite part of tw without a doubt is all the hatemail I receive from everyone. Nothing motivates me more to log in everyday than the thought of another human thinking me worthy enough to empart a large portion of their hatred and malice toward myself in the form of a congragation of random illiterate non sensical banter.
Who is your favourite forum personality?
My favorite forum personality has to be Lord of Bones. Not only is LoB A complete tool but a complete tool who makes everyone else look vastly more intelligent everytime he posts.
Is there a current player on W27 that you would like to fight?
Their is no one on tribal wars who I wish to fight. I dont actually see people when I play just multicolored dots some who I allow to grow others who must to hampered and a select few who must be crushed.
If Shadow wins the war against the Coalition, do you think that REF and whoever is left can stand against them?
Can Ref defeat Shadow if the coalition falls? is that a joke or something? Shadow will crush Reformation beneath their boots like a bug 1 vs 1. I cant believe I was asked such a stupid question.
Woah, I was just asking the stock questions.
Will you be returning to another world of Tribal Wars after W27 or packing it in?
I will most likely take a brake from tw for a few months befor once again returning.
Do you think Shadow deserves to win W27?
I will answere that question like this, If Shadow falls then they deserved to fall. If Shadow conquers the entire world then they deserved to. In this world you get what you deserve nothing more nothing less.
It is a good answer; I think that wraps things up. It was a pleasure, thank you for your time. Good luck with the war.
Thank you Zarin, it was a pleasure; good luck to you too.
Thoughts for the week
A few words on the vicissitudes of the week and TW in general
My thanks to maccano1 here who has fulfilled the criterion of being related to TW for once instead of my ramblings.
The Death of the Fake
Over a couple of conversations over a number of worlds it’s come to my attention that many players no longer really understand what faking really is. A couple of recent attacks against my accounts and some that I sit have shown that faking seems to be almost a lost art.
I was recently asked when setting up a recent attack, why I didn’t just rely on fake scripts to send fakes. This question perplexed me for a while, as I’d never really thought about it seriously, however after a conversation with the player I was able to show him why scripts aren’t particularly great at the job that they are meant to do; it was my realisation with the advent of scripts that have the ability to save us allot of time, many players (especially the newer ones who have grown up exclusively using scripts) don’t really understand what faking players is really meant to do, and that just running a script a couple hundred times doesn’t really provide adequate cover if you are planning on attacking targets with a large amount of nobles and nukes.
The whole idea behind a fake attack is that they are meant to mask attacks that are being sent at a player in an attempt to significantly deter a player from supporting the villages that are the real targets of the planned attack, they do this by confusing a player and hopefully drawing support to other targets, which makes the real target more vulnerable than if the fakes had not been sent. Unfortunately fake scripts do not realistically have this effect. Fake scripts (or at least the ones that I have seen knocking around) choose a random village from a pre-selected set of villages and send a single ram (or whatever troop input that you’ve chosen), while this does up a players attack counter, there is very little else that the attack does; because the attack is an isolated attack and not part of a series, anybody with any amount of experience and nouce will recognise it and either move troops (in case it’s a random nuke) or worse ignore it. Now I’m not saying that fake scripts don’t have their uses, used in conjunction with effective faking, they can add pressure to players and significantly improve the chance of attacks being successful, however their use as the exclusive mode of faking is severely ineffective when it comes to fighting anyone of experience.
Now not all players will do this, newer players who haven’t had the dubious pleasure of being attacked often may panic purely at a swarm of attacks and scream for support to all of their villages purely by seeing a mass of attacks. However if there are experienced heads in the tribe they are often able to calm the player down and show them how to navigate these attacks, analyse what the attacks are, and diagnose what is actually getting attacked by nobles and what actually needs support and what can be ignored. While some players are impervious to this brand of common sense it does help many players see what is there and subsequently navigate the attacks and any subsequent attacks with minimum losses to their village count.
The crooks of the problem is that many players on offense do not really see the need to change the way they attack, often finding that in the early/mid game, that players are that inexperienced that fake scripts are successful, and it isn’t until they come up against someone with a bit of skill (or someone who’s being tutored by someone with a bit of experience) that this ceases to work. This leads to a situation which we have today, where many players no longer understand what faking really should be, because they simply haven’t had to rely on anything more than a fake script and will enough to press it a couple hundred times.
So the question is where does this leave us now? Will there be a situation where real faking slowly fades out as the older worlds wind down, or will this skill slowly permeate the newer worlds as players become more experienced after finding that fake scripts are inadequate? I guess only time will tell.
I was recently asked when setting up a recent attack, why I didn’t just rely on fake scripts to send fakes. This question perplexed me for a while, as I’d never really thought about it seriously, however after a conversation with the player I was able to show him why scripts aren’t particularly great at the job that they are meant to do; it was my realisation with the advent of scripts that have the ability to save us allot of time, many players (especially the newer ones who have grown up exclusively using scripts) don’t really understand what faking players is really meant to do, and that just running a script a couple hundred times doesn’t really provide adequate cover if you are planning on attacking targets with a large amount of nobles and nukes.
The whole idea behind a fake attack is that they are meant to mask attacks that are being sent at a player in an attempt to significantly deter a player from supporting the villages that are the real targets of the planned attack, they do this by confusing a player and hopefully drawing support to other targets, which makes the real target more vulnerable than if the fakes had not been sent. Unfortunately fake scripts do not realistically have this effect. Fake scripts (or at least the ones that I have seen knocking around) choose a random village from a pre-selected set of villages and send a single ram (or whatever troop input that you’ve chosen), while this does up a players attack counter, there is very little else that the attack does; because the attack is an isolated attack and not part of a series, anybody with any amount of experience and nouce will recognise it and either move troops (in case it’s a random nuke) or worse ignore it. Now I’m not saying that fake scripts don’t have their uses, used in conjunction with effective faking, they can add pressure to players and significantly improve the chance of attacks being successful, however their use as the exclusive mode of faking is severely ineffective when it comes to fighting anyone of experience.
Now not all players will do this, newer players who haven’t had the dubious pleasure of being attacked often may panic purely at a swarm of attacks and scream for support to all of their villages purely by seeing a mass of attacks. However if there are experienced heads in the tribe they are often able to calm the player down and show them how to navigate these attacks, analyse what the attacks are, and diagnose what is actually getting attacked by nobles and what actually needs support and what can be ignored. While some players are impervious to this brand of common sense it does help many players see what is there and subsequently navigate the attacks and any subsequent attacks with minimum losses to their village count.
The crooks of the problem is that many players on offense do not really see the need to change the way they attack, often finding that in the early/mid game, that players are that inexperienced that fake scripts are successful, and it isn’t until they come up against someone with a bit of skill (or someone who’s being tutored by someone with a bit of experience) that this ceases to work. This leads to a situation which we have today, where many players no longer understand what faking really should be, because they simply haven’t had to rely on anything more than a fake script and will enough to press it a couple hundred times.
So the question is where does this leave us now? Will there be a situation where real faking slowly fades out as the older worlds wind down, or will this skill slowly permeate the newer worlds as players become more experienced after finding that fake scripts are inadequate? I guess only time will tell.
Stats
Top Ten Tribes
1 Shadow 54.315.314 62.681.989 64 979.406 6400 9.794
2 [IRON] 13.896.380 16.873.410 79 213.587 2001 8.432
3 Nstlk* 13.499.323 15.690.653 74 212.036 1803 8.703
4 REF 12.872.112 12.872.112 13 990.162 1314 9.796
5 TK 11.798.862 12.396.356 57 217.480 1471 8.427
6 *TKP* 6.898.933 7.102.000 49 144.939 911 7.796
7 FURY 4.757.104 5.022.367 61 82.334 645 7.787
8 SAM 2.619.371 2.619.371 24 109.140 390 6.716
9 Dstlk* 2.132.215 2.144.562 50 42.891 311 6.896
10 SoD 1.608.112 1.762.978 84 20.988 333 5.294
Top Ten Players
1 theSleepwalker REF 2.661.222 260 10235
2 ftw97 Shadow 2.490.378 253 9843
3 Carthon II Shadow 2.404.113 248 9694
4 gerick6 Shadow 2.280.633 224 10181
5 mikestuntz Shadow 2.267.991 224 10125
6 Zarin Shadow 2.106.189 209 10077
7 Mande1992 Shadow 2.029.287 207 9803
8 BrobFellshank Shadow 1.997.461 200 9987
9 filphillip Shadow 1.936.349 203 9539
10 toby7304 Shadow 1.862.188 188 9905
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