DeletedUser137
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We were going to leave you alone once BAPH was gone.
I did refer to your other post... If thats how you want to play diplomat then GameOn.
We were going to leave you alone once BAPH was gone.
I did refer to your other post... If thats how you want to play diplomat then GameOn.
DeletedUser3101
Guest
The name of the game is tribalwars people...
so lets start some wars.
RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.
so lets start some wars.
RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.
DeletedUser
Guest
Instead of making some aggressive replies, I think it would be better to resume the war. I will try to do it (but it's even more complicated than that):
1) PTT/AoS axis declare war on FTR
==> FTR3 start falling (mostly consist of rim players)
2) FTR call in for his allies to support their rim villages (some of those allies are still hiden)
3) TFA attack FTR (FTR declare war on TFA) ==> the attack concerned is a bit strange and surrounded by lies (don't ask for details, none know the trust beside pebbles
)
4) FTR concentrate on TFA (closer)
==> FTR3 is disbanded and remaining members join FTR/FTR2
5) PTT/AoS/TFA call for allies
6) Hatred join PTT/AoS/TFA
7) FTR concentrate on Hatred (even closer and more dangerous)
8) FTR call for allies to declare officially
9) Hatred is eradicated by FTR alliance
10) PTT/AoS/TFA call for more allies (or more tribe chose to officially join their side ==> KOWK and others)
10) FTR alliance concentrate on TFA
11) TFA call for ceasefire followed by peace with FTR (No official comment on who lose and who didn't
)
12) FTR alliance concentrate on PTT/AoS by conquering villages on the front war with PTT/AoS
13) PTT/AoS stats are falling
I let you figure who is winning the war
There are a damn lot of questions that could be asked regarding several tribes involvement, but it's way too complex to details, and I don't even know all myself...
I'm not even sure if AoS stands with PTT at the moment ...
Constructive comments are welcome
edit: added a FTR3 comment for your pleasure
1) PTT/AoS axis declare war on FTR
==> FTR3 start falling (mostly consist of rim players)
2) FTR call in for his allies to support their rim villages (some of those allies are still hiden)
3) TFA attack FTR (FTR declare war on TFA) ==> the attack concerned is a bit strange and surrounded by lies (don't ask for details, none know the trust beside pebbles
)4) FTR concentrate on TFA (closer)
==> FTR3 is disbanded and remaining members join FTR/FTR2
5) PTT/AoS/TFA call for allies
6) Hatred join PTT/AoS/TFA
7) FTR concentrate on Hatred (even closer and more dangerous)
8) FTR call for allies to declare officially
9) Hatred is eradicated by FTR alliance
10) PTT/AoS/TFA call for more allies (or more tribe chose to officially join their side ==> KOWK and others)
10) FTR alliance concentrate on TFA
11) TFA call for ceasefire followed by peace with FTR (No official comment on who lose and who didn't
)12) FTR alliance concentrate on PTT/AoS by conquering villages on the front war with PTT/AoS
13) PTT/AoS stats are falling
I let you figure who is winning the war
There are a damn lot of questions that could be asked regarding several tribes involvement, but it's way too complex to details, and I don't even know all myself...
I'm not even sure if AoS stands with PTT at the moment ...
Constructive comments are welcome
edit: added a FTR3 comment for your pleasure
DeletedUser
Guest
The major problem with this war is distance. The core is controlled by FTR and the alliance. PTT is all over the edges. I can relate to this because for a long while I was pretty much the only person in my particular area due to my location on the edge of the core.
Now that some of the more powerful players have moved out towards the rim the war will become more heated. For example, certain parts of K45 have been pretty much over run by now. Aardvarki most certainly is starting to deploy his level 3 nukes from what I've seen of his new holdings. A bunch of PTT south of me fell to him and another FTR player.
If ES Lords or one of the other powerful rim tribes get royally involved things will really be interesting.
Now that some of the more powerful players have moved out towards the rim the war will become more heated. For example, certain parts of K45 have been pretty much over run by now. Aardvarki most certainly is starting to deploy his level 3 nukes from what I've seen of his new holdings. A bunch of PTT south of me fell to him and another FTR player.
If ES Lords or one of the other powerful rim tribes get royally involved things will really be interesting.
DeletedUser3486
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KoWK is not here to fight FTR. We are more here to support our ppl and To help our allies. But we are not here to actually fight FTR. Basically we are neutral.
Thank for your time
Vektor
Thank for your time
Vektor
DeletedUser
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DeletedUser3486
Guest
I never said we wanted out.
I simply said what we feel. We never started it with FTR and had no problems with them. But then some of FTR guys started to attack a few of us and brougth us into a war we wanted nothing to do with. But to help out our allies with support. Now that this war has blown up into something big and ppl keep talking about KoWK and where our stance is. Its pretty much simply we want to stay neutral and just help our allies out but aslong as FTR 2 seems they still want to attack us. So we will fight back against them as for FTR 1 they really haven't done to much in attacking us. And we see no reason to attack them for they have done nothing wrong to us. But we will support our allies and we will support our own.
P.S all the other relations we have with ppl we will stand behind also
Thank you again for your time
Vektor
KoWK never said they wanted out of the war.
I simply said what we feel. We never started it with FTR and had no problems with them. But then some of FTR guys started to attack a few of us and brougth us into a war we wanted nothing to do with. But to help out our allies with support. Now that this war has blown up into something big and ppl keep talking about KoWK and where our stance is. Its pretty much simply we want to stay neutral and just help our allies out but aslong as FTR 2 seems they still want to attack us. So we will fight back against them as for FTR 1 they really haven't done to much in attacking us. And we see no reason to attack them for they have done nothing wrong to us. But we will support our allies and we will support our own.
P.S all the other relations we have with ppl we will stand behind also
Thank you again for your time
Vektor
KoWK never said they wanted out of the war.
DeletedUser
Guest
Well Vektor if you think you can support the enemies of FTR and cause losses that way and not be in in the war you are maybe a little too naive. People who want to stay out of it should stay out of it not be in it in a half hearted way. To me it really doesn't matter if I lose an extra 5000 men to support supplied by a tribe or if someone in that tribe attacked me. Either way they harmed me and need to be dealt with. All the Kowk near me hopped into other tribes pretty fast though so I have no first hand experience with Kowk.
DeletedUser3486
Guest
Call me naive call me whatever. Maybe its better put this way KoWK really wished thats how it could be. KoWK really didn't want to get into the war but when your brought into it then your brought into it and nothing you can do about it. Yes FTR took a few of our villages. Yes we have reatailed for it which we should. No we are not at war with FTR. I and My guys don't want to war FTR since really it does nothing for us. But put us backwards in this game and we are moving forward. So as of now WE will continue to support our own and support allies and yes we are in this war but we are not at war with FTR or FTR2.
Thanks again
Vektor
Thanks again
Vektor
DeletedUser3486
Guest
ERRR i think your wrong there. No one has left the tribe Thanks to this war.
We had kicked them for not being active.
anyways im done gl to everyone in what ever there position is in the war
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DeletedUser
Guest
Btw for those who do not know KowK is a well nit tibe i know alot of them in person and many who left aswell or so presummed.
They are good friends from another game and will do everything they can to support an active player in the tribe.Its not in the nature of those in kowk to through a person out just because he/she is about to lose villages
So stop making assumtions.I have seen them play and work together.
And since being a neutral over hear i guess my opinion matters more than anyone else because i have first hand xp of being in kowk for short time and of knowing these guys for a long time.
P.S i left the tribes because of my personal vanditas against someone in thier i thought i would rather leave the tribe than destroy its atmostphere now i have nothing to do with Kowk.
DeletedUser
Guest
I don't see your point, none care if KOWK work as one or not, they taken advantage of their position to attack FTR members already attacked by PTT, they even in some occasion coordinated their attacks with PTT.
There are no point in discussing it anyway.
And in response to Vektor, there are no difference between FTR and FTR2. Atttacking either one only mean you attack FTR as a whole.
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Just to make sure there are no confusion "offically declaring war" can be done in several ways:
1) A public post in the forum
2) A private mail to opposite leader
3) Organizing a coordinated attack
...
As I said above, I just tryed to describe the general things going on, there are a lot more if we go in the detail
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DeletedUser137
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Wars dont have to be declared, just attack the buggers.
TBH, i think the way KOWK did it with B.o.w was brilliant. KOWK took like 2 villages a week for a couple of weeks and it didnt occur to any of them.
TBH, i think the way KOWK did it with B.o.w was brilliant. KOWK took like 2 villages a week for a couple of weeks and it didnt occur to any of them.
DeletedUser
Guest
Hello, my name is JonSnow and I am the KoWK Diplomacy Baron. If you have any questions, concerns, or wish to discuss the behavior of a tribe member of mine or my tribe, feel free to drop me a message in game. If you would like to discuss NAPs or alliances we are always willing to discuss mutually beneficial arrangements.
The core of our tribe came from another MMOG called Kingdoms of War (hence the KOW). In this game we all were in different clans and fought with and against each other in many epic struggles. We were a close group and when we all came here the main thing we brought was honoring allies. And when i say honoring, i mean BEING allies as opposed to just not hitting the other tribe which so many people these days feel like that is a alliance. That is nothing. Alliances should have communication and support each other whereever needed whether it be resources or 30k troops. Since we have been in this game we have found many other players who have joined us that share our views and several tribes that believe as we do.
PTT is a close ally of ours and we have sent defensive support to many of their villages as we would expect an ally to do. In return they also have been very helpful when we have needed it. We take pride on being good allies and have been allied with AoS and PTT from way before the start of this conflict. We have no relations with FTR, we are not at war status with them although they have hit us to try and dissuade us from supporting our allies, and to of course grow. In some isolated areas we have fought back offensively to stop aggresive action taken against us but to quote FTR member brbbbq "taking villages off you when no diplomatic relations exist is not war, thats how the game is played."
FTR sees how we are helping PTT and they think we are at war with them when all we are doing is being the allies we hope others can be for us.
The core of our tribe came from another MMOG called Kingdoms of War (hence the KOW). In this game we all were in different clans and fought with and against each other in many epic struggles. We were a close group and when we all came here the main thing we brought was honoring allies. And when i say honoring, i mean BEING allies as opposed to just not hitting the other tribe which so many people these days feel like that is a alliance. That is nothing. Alliances should have communication and support each other whereever needed whether it be resources or 30k troops. Since we have been in this game we have found many other players who have joined us that share our views and several tribes that believe as we do.
PTT is a close ally of ours and we have sent defensive support to many of their villages as we would expect an ally to do. In return they also have been very helpful when we have needed it. We take pride on being good allies and have been allied with AoS and PTT from way before the start of this conflict. We have no relations with FTR, we are not at war status with them although they have hit us to try and dissuade us from supporting our allies, and to of course grow. In some isolated areas we have fought back offensively to stop aggresive action taken against us but to quote FTR member brbbbq "taking villages off you when no diplomatic relations exist is not war, thats how the game is played."
FTR sees how we are helping PTT and they think we are at war with them when all we are doing is being the allies we hope others can be for us.
DeletedUser
Guest
You are obviously on one side of the fence if you are mass supporting FTR enemies. And these are just not local situations these are across the map. You cannot play both sides of the fence when you are clearly on one.
AmerRules
Guest
Napoleon Bonaparte once said that "an army fights on its stomach"...allies regardless of whether or not they are attacking with soldiers or with support - are still considered to be enemies by the warring tribe. IMHO, if you wish to stop being hit by FTR - stop supporting PTT. You are not neutral - you have chosen a side - period.
DeletedUser
Guest
...but I'm not sure that the situation with FTR would necessarily be different if you weren't supporting PTT
FTR are interested in expansion - unless you actually have a NAP or alliance with them you should be prepared to fight them. I see no problem with that policy (and obviously it has served them well) and I don't really see that they need to justify it.
Distance is probably the best defence against FTR!
FTR are interested in expansion - unless you actually have a NAP or alliance with them you should be prepared to fight them. I see no problem with that policy (and obviously it has served them well) and I don't really see that they need to justify it.
Distance is probably the best defence against FTR!
DeletedUser1185
Guest
Don't forget ME who has been doing damage on PTT/AoS and or making a holding action against them so they do not spread further,Also it was thru ME's Far sightedness that we started building up tribes on the Rim so that we may survive and flourish.
DeletedUser
Guest
There are people to my North who were in Kowk and are now in other tribes. Their villages are not abandoned so I asume they are active. One of them at least is in HOT but I lost track of who the others are. I don't care why they are not in KOWK now though but it left me without an opportunity to "interact" with them.
DeletedUser
Guest
...but I'm not sure that the situation with FTR would necessarily be different if you weren't supporting PTT
FTR are interested in expansion - unless you actually have a NAP or alliance with them you should be prepared to fight them. I see no problem with that policy (and obviously it has served them well) and I don't really see that they need to justify it.
Distance is probably the best defence against FTR!
It would be slightly different. If they were not supporting PTT they likely would not be enemies and would then only lose the occasional village that any tribe not allied or Napped can expect to lose. But I agree that distance is the best defense against the evil FTR.
