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[Asylum Escapee]

Funny thing is cruel and turtle are just as crappy and inactive as you guys ever were. Let's face it your crumbling was pretty pathetic, and to turn on your allies aster all the support mayhem poured in to you was pretty dirty and your decision to fight mayhem after they expressed theur displeasure at being back stabbed was incredibly childish.

Cruel is probably going to win this world, I'm waiting to see if turtle turns on them now or waits until cruel have consolidated their power. Only 30 can win so many would need to be ditched in a cruel/ turtle merge.

 

[velibor]

Padova I personally don't know you that well...however, your post about Humpty not doing crap is a little overboard and 2 things I can particularly tell you are these...

#1 It is more noble to quit or delete than backstab an ally...want proof? Look at me...My quitting caused my tribe to fall appart within a week of me leaving...yet all of the members that know the reason I quit still keep friendly ties with me on Skype and hit me up every chance they get...quitting>betrayal... its simply the way world is...fight it all you want but people(tribemembers and allies alike) will never look at you the same regardless what world you go to after this one.

#2 I don't know how much Humpty contributed leadershipwise since i had left but I was in quiet a few group leadership chats during my time here...I can tell you that during those times he was the most active leader in the world. He did just about everything he could politically to save your tribe and bring your enemies down. I can vouch that he probably downed more turtle trains trough sits up to the point when he quit than you or any of your former tribemates ever will before this world is over.

This is a game and we all have lives which eventually intensify to the point where you're forced to make a decision to either keep playing a game or lose certain privileges in life which define what life is. My guess is that he simply run into that point and chose the path which was more important to him.

 

[DeletedUser98728]

Padova I personally don't know you that well...however, your post about Humpty not doing crap is a little overboard and 2 things I can particularly tell you are these...

#1 It is more noble to quit or delete than backstab an ally...want proof? Look at me...My quitting caused my tribe to fall appart within a week of me leaving...yet all of the members that know the reason I quit still keep friendly ties with me on Skype and hit me up every chance they get...quitting>betrayal... its simply the way world is...fight it all you want but people(tribemembers and allies alike) will never look at you the same regardless what world you go to after this one.

#2 I don't know how much Humpty contributed leadershipwise since i had left but I was in quiet a few group leadership chats during my time here...I can tell you that during those times he was the most active leader in the world. He did just about everything he could politically to save your tribe and bring your enemies down. I can vouch that he probably downed more turtle trains trough sits up to the point when he quit than you or any of your former tribemates ever will before this world is over.

This is a game and we all have lives which eventually intensify to the point where you're forced to make a decision to either keep playing a game or lose certain privileges in life which define what life is. My guess is that he simply run into that point and chose the path which was more important to him.

I did not say he did nothing lmao. Pack and I are fine, certain people know why he deleted and our tribes in activity had a big part to do with it. Ultimately our tribe nor RL had anything to do with him deleting though. So please hush boy.

Funny thing is cruel and turtle are just as crappy and inactive as you guys ever were. Let's face it your crumbling was pretty pathetic, and to turn on your allies aster all the support mayhem poured in to you was pretty dirty and your decision to fight mayhem after they expressed theur displeasure at being back stabbed was incredibly childish.

Cruel is probably going to win this world, I'm waiting to see if turtle turns on them now or waits until cruel have consolidated their power. Only 30 can win so many would need to be ditched in a cruel/ turtle merge.

As for this, the difference being is turtle and cruel were both hitting us. Take into account people quitting and deleting etc. As for Mayhem sending us support, why wouldnt they? They had half the front we had, and a bigger pool to get def from.

 

[DeletedUser113867]

As for this, the difference being is turtle and cruel were both hitting us. Take into account people quitting and deleting etc. As for Mayhem sending us support, why wouldnt they? They had half the front we had, and a bigger pool to get def from.

You hit them the day you joined there enemies, while they were still withdrawing support from the front of your tribe most likely, this shows how low you really are.

You said you stuck around because mayhem players were offended you backstabbed them, but in another post you said you stuck around because your account had activated another months premium and you didnt want to waste it, change your story much?

You are a liar and a scumbag of a player.

 

[DeletedUser98728]

You hit them the day you joined there enemies, while they were still withdrawing support from the front of your tribe most likely, this shows how low you really are.

You said you stuck around because mayhem players were offended you backstabbed them, but in another post you said you stuck around because your account had activated another months premium and you didnt want to waste it, change your story much?

You are a liar and a scumbag of a player.

I stuck around for quite a few reasons, if you'd like to know em all I could tell you? It also had to do with me joining w77 then not liking the settings and leaving there. I know I know, everything is my fault. Whatever gets you through the day.

I also forced people to join Cruel / Vil3. Yawn. Don't you have barbs to build up.

 

[DeletedUser113867]

I stuck around for quite a few reasons, if you'd like to know em all I could tell you? It also had to do with me joining w77 then not liking the settings and leaving there. I know I know, everything is my fault. Whatever gets you through the day.

I also forced people to join Cruel / Vil3. Yawn. Don't you have barbs to build up.

I have probably seen everyone written down already since every post a new reason why you are still playing here is typed. I have not said all is your fault, i have said you back stabbed and hit a tribe who was supporting you and that was your fault. How long does it take to withdraw support from the fronts? how many hours did you wait before attacking? so support on the way back and you attacked then say its your fault for not helping us enough and that allies should have had troops there. It is mayhems fault that they helped you and all allies of future tribes you lead should beware, when shit hits the fan you will attack the ally and blame them for your tribes lack of firepower.

I wonder if you are attacked will turtle and cruel support you knowing that at any moment you might lose a village or 2 and then run to the people winning and attack them. No wonder cruel did not want you to join them with the rest of your tribe mates.

 

[rich26ca]

On the farmercy front i did notice that the player gained 50 million odd and only lost 13 villages while also taking 100 from other sources. From an outsiders perspective that op was a failure as turtle gained nothing from it.

not sure why it would be considered an failure the only other op even remotely close to that size was against noobs a few months back where they got like 2 villages and then never did anything...

50+ mill ODD would hurt any player i would bet 3/4 of farms troops have been destroyed as depicted in there own forums trying to rally behind him with additional support. and no one from our side is going to stop so its only a matter of time before the gains come in much larger amounts.

ibol and nggadavid have both lost villages with getting far less odd per village.

13 villages is 13 villages but it is not success taking 13 out of 1300, especially when the player is nobling 100 more to replace the 13.

it is when the player is mostly just stacking... killing his def in the first wave is bound to make future waves all that much easier.

People get bored and frustrated losing nukes with little to no gains, more likely turtle players give up attacking than mayhem give up defending.

really you think that people get more frustrated with losing some nukes then having to constantly be online to defend an account in a tribe bound to lose... not sure how that works mate...

 

[DeletedUser98728]

I have probably seen everyone written down already since every post a new reason why you are still playing here is typed. I have not said all is your fault, i have said you back stabbed and hit a tribe who was supporting you and that was your fault. How long does it take to withdraw support from the fronts? how many hours did you wait before attacking? so support on the way back and you attacked then say its your fault for not helping us enough and that allies should have had troops there. It is mayhems fault that they helped you and all allies of future tribes you lead should beware, when shit hits the fan you will attack the ally and blame them for your tribes lack of firepower.

I wonder if you are attacked will turtle and cruel support you knowing that at any moment you might lose a village or 2 and then run to the people winning and attack them. No wonder cruel did not want you to join them with the rest of your tribe mates.

Fair enough. The timeline of when I hit, was probably near 48 hours. I've hardly lost a village or 2 and then run lol. Unless you were there, one of the members, and actually saw the conditions of the tribe you really can't comment on it. A lot of the guys tried hard, but we had just to many to carry and to little participation.

Who said Cruel didn't want me to join?

 

[DeletedUser113867]

not sure why it would be considered an failure the only other op even remotely close to that size was against noobs a few months back where they got like 2 villages and then never did anything...

50+ mill ODD would hurt any player i would bet 3/4 of farms troops have been destroyed as depicted in there own forums trying to rally behind him with additional support. and no one from our side is going to stop so its only a matter of time before the gains come in much larger amounts.



it is when the player is mostly just stacking... killing his def in the first wave is bound to make future waves all that much easier.





really you think that people get more frustrated with losing some nukes then having to constantly be online to defend an account in a tribe bound to lose... not sure how that works mate...

Looking at stats some turtle players have started attacking different targets, this supports my theory that people give up when they do not gain many villages.

ofcourse it hurt farmercy losing that many defence troops but on the other hand it hurt turtle more losing that amount of offence troops. Look at the stats, turtle are nobling a 10th of what mayhem are nobling atm. Or is this because of your tribes inactivity not the fact that your tribe lost alot of nukes.

People get frustrated with being online to defend but usually they give up before the main wave, saying they have to go away so they can pretend it didnt happen and claim it happened after. Or they give up in the break or just after when they have held off the attacks and get bored of defending. While people who fail to gain in an attack give up attacking that player or quit as they have lost all there nukes and realise it takes a while to rebuild and people are pulling away and taking over in the rankings.

Personally i see some turtle players already attacking less than before some trying for different targets.

@padov

48 hours of dropping alliance but only a few hours of joining turtle before attacking, but how many days does it take for troops to travel to your fronts? that is a disgusting move for any player to do and then comment on the forums about making gains. How do you not see it as a backstab? they support you and you attack saying you gave a few days notice when it takes days to withdraw troops from your fronts yet alone send the troops to the new front. It was a disgusting move and whatever the reason was, defending it and blaming inactives is even worse. Disband your tribe join the enemy due to inactivity yes ok, but hitting a tribe with troops in your tribes villages or withdrawing troops is nothing to do with anyone else. It was a personal choice and shows what a lowlife player you really are.

 

[DeletedUser97413]

50+ mill ODD would hurt any player i would bet 3/4 of farms troops have been destroyed as depicted in there own forums trying to rally behind him with additional support. and no one from our side is going to stop so its only a matter of time before the gains come in much larger amounts.

It was a good Op and I was not expecting to receive as many nukes as were sent based on previous attempts so respect for that. They cleared several of my stacks that were obviously not quite large enough and sent some short range nobles (some of which we managed to kill). It also did coincide where I was working away (turtle's even have spies at my work - sigh), which is no excuse but is a reason. I will certainly be wiser for the next round.

I have also fired my nobles for being lazy as I missed at least 2 recaps because they didn't do their job.

Not sure what is wrong with asking backline players to provide support to a frontline player that is being op'ed. Are you telling me all turtle players are self-supporting?

And for the record, I have much more than 1/4 of my troops left, which is the benefit of a spider defence.

I will continue to noble any village I choose, whether that be an inactive, a large or small barb, internal or enemy. For a long time, I was the biggest supporter of a non-barb policy in our tribe, even when others wanted us to drop it, but the situation has changed now that our long time allies stabbed us in the back. I don't really care what anyone thinks about that because I got to number one with only a limited amount of barbs and have the best war stats in our tribe so am more than happy with my own performance/contribution, but the situation now is somewhat different. If nothing else, it will make turtle have to work even harder to get rid of me and I promise that for every village I lose that I will take 10 new ones (I have plenty of packets).

And before any turtles criticise my barb nobling, they should really look at their own players in that regard before pointing the finger.

Maybe we can't win now that turtle and cruel have decided to hug their way to the win, but we can be bloody annoying for a while longer yet.

So, keep it up. I have a good co, like this game a lot and have plenty of time to play it. I don't mind being the focus of turtle's rage as it will allow my friends to grow nicely.

 

[BGeorge3]

Wow what a joke of a post. Yeah so we have started barbling more, cruel has been doing it for months; turtle for about a year (look at 7ronnpan / turtles core); who cares? The humiliating thing for the hug alliance is that now that we have dropped or loosened our barbling rules, we are more often than not topping the nobling map, despite being smaller.

I would be more concerned about the activity over in Cruel. Who likes merging to the top spot, and then boxing in all the core players by completely getting rid of the 3 continent long frontline they were working on so long? lol buzz kill. Not to mention the mixed feelings that many players over there will have about this mess.

Padova:I did what was best for my guys, and would do it again tomorrow.
*Meanwhile various ex-8008s are forced into cruel, until cruel and vil3 are full and the remaining players are left out to wait.*

This is an interpretation. Feel free to get your panties in a knot now

Lately, Cruel has been nobling at the same level or more, than all of the Mayhem family. Cruel has also been gaining more points for less villages nobled. Vil3 alone has been nobling more than all of the Turtle family as well.
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[/SPOIL]

Cruel hasn't merged to the top. We were at the top before taking in various Nomads and 800 players. Blocking off the core players that have been working on the front for months you say? I was one of the top players in the 800 war and I supported the recruitment of my main targets because they deserved to win (2-3 players). There is still plenty of room to expand. You say the new recruits have mixed feelings? It's a mess? Please look at the nobling maps.:icon_wink:

In addition, here are the war rankings:

Rank	Tribe name	Points	Villages won	Lost villages	Ratio	Opponents defeated (off.)	Opponents defeated (def.)
1	Turtle	24.908.825	2.829	827	3.4	773.427.740	836.279.904
2	Cruel	24.504.483	2.912	388	7.5	399.032.745	384.385.415
3	Ninja	14.600.868	1.689	1.017	1.7	250.290.380	253.809.121
4	Mayhem	13.062.413	1.573	659	2.4	389.556.397	562.202.256
5	-A-	5.485.307	716	778	0.9	74.703.360	207.604.201

12	Vil3	692.312	81	55	1.5	12.073.419	13.343.815

As for Dan. He did what was in the best interest of his tribe. He worked it out so that his members had a shot at actually winning. If you look at Mayhem, the odds of them winning aren't as high as they are for Cruel or Turtle. You said the ex-800 members were forced into Cruel? What evidence do you have to support that statement? Nobody can force you to hit the , "accept invite" button. Anybody that joined, did so of their own free will. They didn't have to accept the invite.

No wonder cruel did not want you to join them with the rest of your tribe mates.

Dan didn't want to join Cruel. He only cared about getting his tribemates into a tribe where they would have a chance to win the world.


As for saying Dan backstabbed Mayhem, at least he was honorable and waited the 48 hours before attacking. That's more than some tribes would give. Mayhem and 800 didn't have relations in the end, and 800 disbanded, meaning everybody was fair game. In the end, you can call Dan dishonorable and say he backstabbed Mayhem, but he was a good leader that put in a lot of effort to try and get the 80013 players to work together better. In the end, Dan knew he couldn't win the war given the status of 800813 at the time, and so instead of wasting time, he did what he needed to to take care of his tribemates and give them a chance to win. If you're going to call him dishonorable, at least give him respect for what he did for his tribe and his tribemates.

 

[zakipoo]

lol you wer eon the top rank by barbling from the start.

 

[Asylum Escapee]

What I have issue with is when he acted all self righteous and yelled at mayhem when they rightfully complained about his players joining cruel. You can't just expect something like that to be taken lightly and you should be willing to take a bit of anger in that situation.

 

[DeletedUser113867]

As for saying Dan backstabbed Mayhem, at least he was honorable and waited the 48 hours before attacking. That's more than some tribes would give. Mayhem and 800 didn't have relations in the end, and 800 disbanded, meaning everybody was fair game. In the end, you can call Dan dishonorable and say he backstabbed Mayhem, but he was a good leader that put in a lot of effort to try and get the 80013 players to work together better. In the end, Dan knew he couldn't win the war given the status of 800813 at the time, and so instead of wasting time, he did what he needed to to take care of his tribemates and give them a chance to win. If you're going to call him dishonorable, at least give him respect for what he did for his tribe and his tribemates.

Honor is not waiting 48 hours when it takes longer than that for troops to return let alone redistribute on the new front. Honor is waiting for the troops helping dan and his tribe to return and let them set up defences like dan had already done.

 

[zakipoo]

Want to hear a joke?

3 turtle walks into Mayhem with 1000's of nukes.

They only take 13 villages.

 

[MrRandomGuy]

Want to hear a joke?

3 turtle walks into Mayhem with 1000's of nukes.

They only take 13 villages.

Want to hear another joke? Ninja is higher than you on war stats even though it has turned into a tribe of inactives for eating food and has been that way for several months.

 

[Asylum Escapee]

a good one: War stats are meaningful

 

[BGeorge3]

Honor is not waiting 48 hours when it takes longer than that for troops to return let alone redistribute on the new front. Honor is waiting for the troops helping dan and his tribe to return and let them set up defences like dan had already done.

What it comes down to is the term, "Honor" is different to everybody. I won't argue with your statement because it is a fair statement.

 

[DeletedUser98728]

Honor is not waiting 48 hours when it takes longer than that for troops to return let alone redistribute on the new front. Honor is waiting for the troops helping dan and his tribe to return and let them set up defences like dan had already done.

Well I've only hit 2 people from Mayhem so far. Neither of which were supporting me. As for the def in my villages from Mayhem, after the alliance was canceled they still took 2 days to withdraw the support (even after I was in turtle) So it would make me wonder how active if even at all the accounts were that had sent support. My defences were not in place either when I hit Mayhem. They were re shifting from me stacking my K54

If you want to keep trying to bash me atleast know what you're talking about.

 

[DeletedUser5561]

they left the troops there while you were still purple because we had not yet hit the 48 hour window the alliance was signed with when from when you started moving your guys and to when you disbanded. you had never said the alliance was in cancel. i was honoring the 48 hour window.... guess my bad for honoring all our nap and ally terms all this time....