I was never a part of HOT on any world until i returned to the game, I joined HOT on 62 as my former duke from world 8 was there (DTATDM) I asked him to arrange a tribe for another world so we could play in the core as i do not like playing on the rim. He was enjoying 62 and said there wasn't enough people about anymore, I followed the HOT leadership to 64 to play in a core tribe.
A vote was held for the whole tribe on a new branch, I voted against the branch, the vote turned out that more voted against than for. However HOT-E was opened. I said ok i'll role with it i'll help set it up.
More and more talk was happening about being a family as Sombra(leader of Fusion/FF1) was a former meber of HOT from world 2, I said I want nothing to do with a family tribe I can accept 2 branches who are located in different directions. Things got put on the back burner but knew the subject would come up again, I informed DTA of my interest to start my own tribe in the future and was displeased with the talk of family coming up over and over again.
Anyway CoVa comes back from one of his long breaks and tells us that he has 3 tribes ready to become part of the family :/ Council were asked to vote, I did not comment on the thread, a day later he messaged me and asked what my opinion was, I told him I would not vote. The reason I did not vote was because I knew what the decision was going to be. The council was split down the middle quite obviously, DTA and I on one side and Cadence/CoVa on the other.
Long story short, an inactive duke made bad decisions and we let him.
Edit: One thing I will add is how impressed I am with Cadence as a duke, however he is stuck in 2006 with the whole family mentality that was world 2. CoVa(Collosus) just wasn't around, he just popped in to make decisions and gave out orders.