i dont want to hurt any feelings, trying like hell to improve an image. I mean damn, dont the players left deserve a chance to overcome a stigma not created by them? Doesnt make sense.
Problem art the Stigma you have is because your leadership failed you in not telling you the things you as a tribe should have had a say in from the get go, like for one the war with us was not going to a cake walk as they were bragging it was going to be they miscalculated one very important thing in their math that we were going to just roll over like BD but what they failed to realize was BD was already checking out of the world an the war with us only sent them out the door faster since it was two tribes with equal skill levels that fought an they had been bored by then of the fight they had before from other tribes an most had checked out when we started fighting each other.
Two was we were not going anywhere we were here to stick it out to the end even if bored we all had fought some of the bloodiest wars on W6 an knew how to fight for years with one tribe from that world,we also knew for one thing this war may be the best we have had so far since we were out numbered an that would bring the excitement level to a fever pitch which it did for those first 6 months, then your leadership with ship Karma an whitt understood then the fight was going to be long an bloody an it would come to who could out last an out fight the other side and instead of laying out to all of you they started bailing an leaving you all in a lurch.
And instead of saying to you when they knew it was a lost cause, to look at joining another tribe an leaving behind a wreck that they created they just left an made you keep up fighting that lost cause because they didn't have the stones to say its time to disband an find a tribe that would take you like good leaderships normally do for their members as for improving the image forget about it its to late ship karma an them ruined that for good by deciding to fight way too many enemies at once an it cost you an all your mates because of that one stupid thing noobaxe knew way back then it was a mistake by ticking off decide, Bh an Phoniex you all had your hands full with us to add more tribes to that long list which was to much an now it has left you high an dry.
Now respect is all fine an dandy if the tribe was smart back then because I don't think anyone would have lost it like they did back then if they had chosen to take one tribe on at a time even with all the meat shields they recruited to fight us on all fronts, Ram may have stood a chance at gaining respect then but after they made their mistakes they wrote in blood the fate of RAM an no matter what you choose to rename yourselves your still RAM in everyones eyes because you haven't decided to leave an find a tribe who would consider you a worth while member to them.
We can forgive mistakes made, its when you still think you still stand a chance which we all have chuckles about because the facts are till the tribe RAM is destroyed we will just keep coming and the only way you gain that respect back is knowing when you need to go else where an find a new home with others who will respect someone who understands the mistake they made an learned from it.