Which Tribe are the biggest Barb Nobling Noobs?

DeletedUser4587

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Tribe Stats! Barbs, Inactives and more!

The purpose of this thread is to quantify some of the attributes that people use to describe tribes. Such as "this tribe nobles a lot of barbs, internals, etc." I have take the time to rank tribes based on various metrics, and i will continue to add new rankings until I run out of ideas. Hopefully by the time I'm done everybody will have some ammo to prove that their rivals suck. =D

I have normalized everything to percentages, so that the size of the tribe is not necessarily the determining factor.

If anybody has any suggestions for something they would like investigated, I will certainly consider it.

Table of contents

Barb Nobling Ranks (this page)

Internal Nobling Tribal Ranks

Member Retention Tribal Ranks

Hostile Conquers Tribal Ranks

Continent Dominance Tribal Ranks

Troop Efficiency Tribal Ranks

***OVERALL TRIBAL RANKS****




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Barb Nobling Tribal Rankings

Background

You see in the forums a lot, people throwing around the accusation that this tribe or this player nobles nothing but barbs, and I think that it is commonly accepted that if a player/tribe nobles a lot of barbs, they are a noob.

So I got curious, and wanted to quantify, which tribe really does noble the most barbs. I had my suspicion who had the most and least... Just by looking at the maps of tribes, the ones with the least village density I figured have nobled the least barbs. Looking at the stickied maps, it looked to me that it's -Nyx-.

Now lets see what the numbers say. I've calculated the top 10 tribes as as percent of barbs conquered (methodology explained at the end of the post). I've combined Fray and Temp since they recently split (the number of conquers temp has made is less statistically significant than others), but I will show them individually as well. I chose to leave MUNTS off the list, since they are also recently formed and there is no clear source of their members, but they will be a footnote as well. I've ranked them, with the lowest barb percentage being #1.

Rankings

Tribe that nobles barbs the least:

#1 -Nyx- - 07.09% - (298/4204)


#2 4ZL? - 09.95% - (753/7570)
#3 Fray/Temp - 11.53% - (873/7574)
#4 INNOV - 15.21% - (249/2295)
#5 Chess - 21.84% - (450/2060)
#6 area - 24.56% - (516/2101)
#7 Che! - 30.10% - (696/2312)


and the tribe that is the biggest noob isssssss.......

#8 -BH- - 32.47% - (665/2048)


Footnotes:
MUNTS - 03.83% (20/522)
Temp - 10.91% (49/449)
Fray - 11.56% (824/7125)

Fun Facts:
-BH- had 70 villages still named "Barbarian village"
MUNTS and Temp had Zero.

-Noir. has nobled 99 of her 251 villages. That's 39.44%. This is a higher percent than our biggest noob tribe, and 13.15% of 4ZL?'s total barb conquers. (sorry Noir, I just happened to notice).


Methodology
[spoil]
The biggest challenge was finding out exactly how many barbs each tribe had nobled, since TW Stats doesn't filter it directly. I did not want to count, because it is time consuming and leaves room for error.

So what I did was filtered the conquers with "old tribe = no tribe", and expanded to show all villages. Since Google Chrome lists the number of instances a word pops up when you Ctrl+F search a page, I just searched barbarian. However I knew some villages would contain the name Barbarian, so I had to manually count those that did. To get the number of barbs nobled I subtracted the number of villages i counted named barbarian from the number of instances the word appeared on the page.

IE, for -BH-

Google found the word "Barbarian" 735 times
I counted 70 villages with the name Babarian
therefore -BH- nobled 665 barbs

The logic being that the old tribe would be listed as "Barbarian", and when subtracting the other times the word popped up, we get the number of barbs nobled.

After that I simply looked at the total number of conquers. 2048 for -BH-

So to get the percent, simple math 665/2048 = 32.47%[/spoil]

Data
[spoil]4ZL?
802 - 49 = 753 Barbs
7570 Total
09.95%

Temp
49 barbs
449 Total
10.91%

-Nyx-
316 - 18 = 298 barbs
4204 Total
07.09%

area
551 - 35 = 516 barbs
2101 total
24.56%

Chess
456 - 6 = 450 Barbs
2060 total
21.84%

Fray
861 -37 = 824 barbs
7125 Total
11.56%

Che!
701 - 5 = 696 barbs
2312 total
30.10%

INNOV
360 - 21 = 349 barbs
2295 Total
15.21%

-BH-
735 - 70 = 665 barbs
2048 Total
32.47%

MUNTS
20 barbs
522 Total
03.83%


Fray + Temp
873 Barbs
7574 Total
11.53%[/spoil]


I hope people found this enjoyable.
 
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DeletedUser

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It would be interesting to see a stat for internals as well.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
I'm not trying hard enough if we're not #1 in barb noblings. :lol:
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Excellent work! Absolutely splendid. And for once wasnt from me! Great work!! :D
 

.dan.101

Guest
So, -Noir. is the biggest noob in the world. Who would've guessed. :icon_surprised:
 

DeletedUser

Guest
I call her a pro. She's fighting the largest tribe in the world and is number one in conquers against them, with no losses. She's beating entire tribes in war conquers! :icon_razz:
 

DeletedUser4587

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Internal Nobling Tribal Rankings

Background

Internal nobles is often used as a metric to describe the activity of a particular tribe. It is assumed that if a tribe has a lot of internals, then they likely have a lot of inactives. While you could argue that internals just mean that they take care of their inactives, not that they necessarily have more, I think it is safe to assume that every top 10 tribe takes care of their inactives, so the number of internal nobles can be a good metric to describe inactivity. The metric can be skewed by tribes who kick and then noble inactives as well.

The relevance and meaning of the internals metric can be debated, I will leave the commentary up to others. Though I would like to note that the tribes are remarkably close to one another in internals. It might be why every tribe feels like they're full of inactives, but it appears ~20-25% is an expected amount to have for inactivity, at least in the top tribes.

Below I have ranked the tribes by the percentage their percentage of conquers that are internal. The lowest percentage is ranked #1.

Similar to the last post, I have combined fray and temp, and left MUNTS in the footnote. (Sorry munts :icon_cry:)


Rankings

Tribe that nobles the fewest internals:

#1 area - 05.85% - (124/2121)


#2 -BH- - 18.20% - (375/2060)
#3 -Nyx- - 21.43% - (909/4241)
#4 Fray/Temp - 21.83% - (1527/7574)
#5 Chess - 22.12% - (459/2075)
#6 Che! - 23.30% - (542/2326)
#7 4ZL? - 23.94% - (1830/7641)


and the tribe that is at war with itself is.......

#8 INNOV - 28.21% - (653/2315)


Footnotes:
MUNTS - 12.22% (65/532)
Temp - 21.33% (109/511)
Fray - 21.87% (1418/6483)

Fun Facts:
Sorry... didn't notice anything ^.^


Methodology
[spoil]
This method for this was simple. If I filtered old tribe and new tribe in the twstats conquer list as the name of the tribe, it lists the number of conquers from the same tribe to same tribe. Then I simply divided the number of internals by the total number of conquers to get the internals.

Note that I did not account for self conquers, which should rightly be remove... but i think they are uncommon enough that it is not worth the effort.[/spoil]

Data for this post and another post to be made soon
[spoil]
4ZL
1830 internals
7641 conquers
23.94%
59 members
205 tribe changes
28.78%

Temp
109 internals
511 conquers
21.33%
50 members
84 Tribe changes
59.52%

-Nyx-
909 internals
4241 conquers
21.43%
44 members
188 tribe changes
23.40%

area
124 internals
2121 conquers
05.85%
25 members
93 tribe changes
26.88%

chess
459 internals
2075 conquers
22.12%
61 members
219 tribe changes
27.85%

Che!
542 internals
2326
23.30%
41 members
163 tribe changes
25.15%

INNOV
653 internals
2315 conquers
28.21%
63 members
353 tribe changes
17.85%

Fray
1418 Internals
6483 conquers
21.87%
34 members
524 tribe changes
06.49%

-BH-
375 Internals
2060 conquers
18.20%
67 members
373 tribe changes
17.96%

-MUNTS-
65 Internals
532 Conquers
12,22%
11 members
45 tribe changes

Fray+Temp
1527 internals
6994 conquers
21.83%
[/spoil]


I hope people found this enjoyable.
 
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DeletedUser

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I like nobleing 1.8k barbs the best, it gives me something to build while i watch "Day of our Lives"

the thing with internaling is, no one likes to do it (that i know of) but it has to be done.

its no good having inactive villages just waiting for the enemy to take them.

you cant recruit troops withought villages so...

But yeah Kudos to INNOV for proving they are the most efficient at internaling,
 
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DeletedUser

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I chose to leave MUNTS off the list, since they are also recently formed and there is no clear source of their members, but they will be a footnote as well. I've ranked them, with the lowest barb percentage being #1.

MUNTS was Created: 2011-05-04 19:14:44
 

DeletedUser4587

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Member Retention Tribal Rankings

Background

While this is something that is not commonly talked about, I think examining the level of membership turnover a tribe has is a good measure of the health and stability of a tribe. The logic being that if a tribe is fun to be in, the people will stay in the tribe and be less likely to quit the game entirely. It can also be considered a measure of the wisdom of the tribe's recruiters, since being forced to kick a person expresses a failure in proper screening. Simply put, I feel that this is the best measure of tribal leadership.

In this post I compare the number of members currently in the tribe to the total number of tribe changes. This is a measure of the tribe's ability to retain members. If the tribe has 50 tribe changes and 50 members, that means they've retained 100% of their members. If a tribe has 100 tribe changes and 50 members, that means they retained 66.67% of their members (might sound odd, but it's right. See methodology below).

I have ranked the top 10 tribe's retention below. Using the original logic that they needed combined, I averaged fray and temp's rating, though I know it's not the ideal way to combine them, that's the best that I could come up with that was easy for me. Once again MUNTS, fray and temp are included in the footnotes.


Rankings

Tribe that who's members are the bestest of friends:

#1 4ZL? - 44.70% - (59/205)


#2 Fray/Temp - 43.41% - (--/--)
#3 Chess - 43.57% - (61/219)
#4 area - 42.37% - (25/93)
#5 Che! - 40.20% - (41/163)
#6 -Nyx- - 37.93% - (44/188)
#7 -BH- - 30.45% - (67/353)


and the tribe that is most likely to disband.......

#8 INNOV - 30.29% - (63/353)


Footnotes:
MUNTS - 39.29% (11/45)
Temp - 74.63% (50/84)
Fray - 12.19% (34/524)

Fun Facts:
While full of barbs, -Noir. leads the tribe that has retained the most members. Perhaps more leader should focus on barbs so they have time to lead?


Methodology
[spoil]
Gathering the data was easy, I simply read them off of TW Stats, but it does take a little bit of algebra to turn those numbers in to something meaningful. I wanted to use the tribe changes to figure out how many people had joined total, without counting, but since tribe changes counts people who joined and left, it wasn't as easy as just dividing the number there by the number of changes.

So I realized this:
A person who stayed caused 1 tribe change (they joined)
A person who joined and left caused 2 tribe changes (joined and left)

Using 4ZL?:

59 joined and stayed, that means 205 - 59 did otherwise.

that leaves 146 joins and leaves. Since each person has 1 join and 1 leave, that means 146/2 people joined but did not stay.

so 73 others joined but did not stay.

that means 59 + 73 = 132 people total joined.

which leads to 59/132 = 44.70% stayed.

or in equation form:

M / (( C - M ) + M)

where:
M = Number of current members
C = Total member changes.


Note: This does not account for people who joined and left more than once.
[/spoil]

Data for this post and prior post
[spoil]
4ZL
1830 internals
7641 conquers
23.94%
59 members
205 tribe changes
28.78%

Temp
109 internals
511 conquers
21.33%
50 members
84 Tribe changes
59.52%

-Nyx-
909 internals
4241 conquers
21.43%
44 members
188 tribe changes
23.40%

area
124 internals
2121 conquers
05.85%
25 members
93 tribe changes
26.88%

chess
459 internals
2075 conquers
22.12%
61 members
219 tribe changes
27.85%

Che!
542 internals
2326
23.30%
41 members
163 tribe changes
25.15%

INNOV
653 internals
2315 conquers
28.21%
63 members
353 tribe changes
17.85%

Fray
1418 Internals
6483 conquers
21.87%
34 members
524 tribe changes
06.49%

-BH-
375 Internals
2060 conquers
18.20%
67 members
373 tribe changes
17.96%

-MUNTS-
65 Internals
532 Conquers
12,22%
11 members
45 tribe changes

Fray+Temp
1527 internals
6994 conquers
21.83%
[/spoil]
 

DeletedUser4587

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glassman6419 said:
I chose to leave MUNTS off the list, since they are also recently formed and there is no clear source of their members, but they will be a footnote as well. I've ranked them, with the lowest barb percentage being #1.

MUNTS was Created: 2011-05-04 19:14:44
Click to expand...

>.>

I just glanced at this:
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and assumed they were new... (didn't look at the numbers on the edge...)
 

DeletedUser

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MUNTS seems new because all but one of their members joined fray a while ago.

Upon the fray implosion it looks like they reformed though.
 

DeletedUser4587

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Hostile Conquer Tribal Ranks

Background

While going through the internal and barb rankings I noticed that some tribes nobled few barbs and a lot of internals, and visa versa, and others stayed in the middle. So I figured that I might as well keep rolling with it and rank the tribes based on how many hostiles they've nobled. Meaning anything that's not a barb or an internal.

Below are the rankings of the percentages of hostiles nobled. #1 being the one with the most.


Rankings

The most blood thirsty tribe:

#1 -Nyx- - 71.48%


#2 area - 69.59%
#3 Fray/Temp - 66.64%
#4 4ZL? - 57.11%
#5 Innov - 56.58%
#6 Chess - 56.04%
#7 -BH- - 49.33%


and the biggest care bears are.......

#8 Che! - 46.60% - (63/353)


Footnotes:
MUNTS - 83.95% (11/45)
Temp - 67.76% (50/84)
Fray - 66.64% (34/524)

Fun Facts:
Turns out, MUNTS isn't new. Perhaps later I'll re-do the rankings and take them out of the footnotes.


Methodology
[spoil]
This is a simple method. I figured there are only 3 types of conquers: Internal, barb and hostile. So I simply added up the barb/internal noble percentages and subtracted them from 100% to get these ratings.
[/spoil]

Data
[spoil]
From previous posts
[/spoil]
 

DeletedUser4587

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-Noir. said:
MUNTS seems new because all but one of their members joined fray a while ago.

Upon the fray implosion it looks like they reformed though.
Click to expand...

Ah, thanks for the info... I can't decide if I should take them out of the footnotes though, since that does mean that they stayed largely inactive as a tribe for a long period of time... which means a small data set which = skewed results.
 

DeletedUser

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nice statistics...good to see them put togheter. good job :)

In this post I compare the number of members currently in the tribe to the total number of tribe changes.
Click to expand...

I think that this is not a good way to calculate the stability of members. One more factor should be introduced - see exactly what members moved (maybe some moved more time back and forth for whatever reasons..) and see who is still there from ground zero, when the tribe started. that will give us a better view of member stability, just comparing member number and tribe changes its far from the truth.
 

DeletedUser

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Although quiet in the externals, nyx is actually alive and kicking some ass it seems...
 
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