Yes, I left RAM when it lost touch with common sense and wouldn't listen to me. I never agree with everything. It has never been that way with any tribe I've been in and will never be the case. I do expect my leaders to at least be in touch with reality. I can be a pain in the butt voicing out my concerns, but most of the time they materialize the way I said it would. RAM didn't know or understand its strenghts and weaknesses. RAM tought it was the greatest tribe ever and could face everything and everyone. It was NOT the case at all. When I watch the result, oh well... I was SO wrong. :icon_wink: There are those who leaves the sinking ship and those who tried to prevent the ship to sink.