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100 hours my nobel
Who were you referring to ? YOU stated merging of a mass tribe with totals of player count. Do your research name names!
Plz name them DNY finished with 61 , are you trying to point out players brought in as the spoils of war over an extended amount of time?? If a tribe dosent recruit the best of the enemy after a war they are retarded and wont last .
Um ok what do you see as late in the world???What after Nuke family was gone? I think at that point there were more than 30+ ks that needed to be filled by players . Yeah thats real late in the game! Yes unlike newer worlds this one fully filled before it was clossed, not to mention mass restarts.
Again you have not proved any points about mass recruitment , only what you think happened. Show facts that relate to something other than what you perceive.
CTRL is still a tribe, so your statement is wrong. Most of the players left in July, 3 monthes ago, not the 9 monthes like you suggest. If you need evidence of this go to your baby, twstats, and look it up.
Again you fail to read what people are telling you. Grim was not active and offered to delete or help us noble out the remaining players. We chose to have him help us.
This clearly shows how aggresive our tribe was. Not everyone could keep up and not everyone liked our aggresive style of play.
If you were truly trying to have a discussion then you could find out from the DNY players how we won this world and the tactics we used instead of drawing conclusions based on what you see in Twstats. That is what pisses us off more than anything, you do not take the time to read our responses to you, instead you pick out what you want and go off on another argument basically restating what you have said over and over.
Yes, they would win but you would never get the top 100 to just leave their tribe and join 1 as there is no fun in that. All of our players got to the top by knocking out the top through war. We either defeated the top players or we defeated their tribe after which we did bring in their best. DNY was an elite tribe with elite players, when we defeated our opponite we took the best and moved on to the next tribe. We won our world in record time because we did not take the time to eat inactives or barbs. There was only 1 two week time period where we attempted to do this and we almost lost the tribe because they were bored.
While I agree we had turnover, my point is our turnover is not much, if any, higher than any other top tribe in any world. The majority of our core group stayed until the world was won.Go to your twstats and count the rest of the top tribes in other worlds and see how many different players they had. You will find DNY fits right in with the rest of them.
This is a lame excuse and the exact opposite should be the case. If they started together then they should grow and stay together unless they were just a mass recruiting tribe. It is more difficult to mesh elite players egos into the same tribe and get them to stay together than it is to take players that start the game together. We had elite players from different tribes that served as Dukes, Barons, and they all had their own way to run a tribe. In DNY it was either our way or the highway. If you look at your beloved twstats you will see that many times this was the case as once in a while we had to dismiss a player or they left and decide later to return.
So if you throw out our mass exodus of players leaving and then returning we still had less tribe changes thatn CTRL. I will not recognize CTRL was "10 monthes over DNY" as this is not true, again look up your twstats.
Bull crap! If you find a new owner for the account then there is not the need to replace them. CTRL was constantly trying to find new owners for their accounts, I know this because I was asked to take one over on a number of occassions. This was a practice we discontinued doing in the past year of our existance and anybody that wanted to quit was asked to delete.
You congratulated us by proceeding to discredit us at how we won this world. This is the thread that YOU started. I do not know what has been said in all worlds, nor do I care, YOU are the one coming here and flaming us not them.
So your playing a game that you have no intentions of winning or to achieve certain level of accomplishments? Wow, then why even play the game? Again, our tactics to win was not soley based on recruitment like you are suggesting. We won this world through wars.
Please do tell what kind of settings you are looking for. Since you are flaming other worlds you should have no problem trying to find TW friends to come and help you.
I would like to come back to you in the future on this. I will get my group of players together and I will make a premade. I don't know when but for the amount of spare time I have it may be late January or early February. I will give you enough notice before doing this.
Show me some stats that back this claim up.
They are the stats that TWstats gave out. I have wrote them down in a smaller format so it didn't take up metres of space on the forum. You can check each stat if you like. They are all true.
The tribes were defeated, we were still nobling the barb eaters until we nobled them all out.
Well then you had not won all your wars. You simply recruited the active enemies that fight and left inactives and barb noblers to noble later on.
But I would like to point out how your mighty CTRL you defend enjoyed nobling barbs and inactives. Quick check of your favorite tool, twstats, had this to say:
CTRL
Total Conquers
Gains - 144,149
Losses - 22,483
No Tribe Ennoblements - 63,893
Internal Ennoblements - 12,529
DNY
Total Conquers
Gains - 145,964
Losses - 5,445
No Tribe Ennoblements - 47,203
Internal Ennoblements - 6,816
Let me guess, your going to twist these stats and say CTRL had stronger competition? But yet they nobled way more barbs and internals than we did. Could it be that we were just that GOOD? :icon_rolleyes:
Nothing to do with the competition. I may be clutching at straws here but 19-20k of those 'no tribe ennoblements' where done during the time new owners were coming to the CTRL accounts. Also a lot of those losses were also in that time period.
You cannot deny yourself that CTRL had it a lot more difficult than DNY.
This is complete BULL you know nothing about these worlds. You know as much about these worlds as you do w12
Take world 4 for example it has the most simlar settings out of your selection of worlds but with a little bit of research you would know that there was a life tribe, a life 2 and a life 3. Did you include all of those tribe changes ?
If you want to post "facts" from TWSTATS post all of them, do the research.
Firstly, that was not bull I don't need to know worlds to count up tribe changes for each rank #1 tribe. In fact Red did it first, I thought it was a bit odd so I went back to the stats and found that Red had missed a lot of them.
For world 4 I didn't include LIFE2 or LIFE3 mainly because if you read you would see I said I was counting the rank #1 tribe in each world. LIFE2 and LIFE3 were not rank #1 so they were not included in the tribe changes statistics.
p.s you keep mentioning you are having a discussion, but you have not replied to one of my comments, you are picking and selecting each and every quote that fits.
Any comments directed at me that make a strong point I quote and reply to. I make sure nobody who is contributing to the conversation is ignored. If I have missed something I am sorry, please alert me to it but I do try and quote everything that is relevant and give an honest reply.
Sean plays w51 with the account name of "sean 5500", let's give him 3 years to show us how "closing the world" should be done :icon_rolleyes:
I only play world 10. I have never owned the sean 5500 account and I have never known it's password. He is in fact a real life friend also called Sean I told him about the game and another friend too we all joined world 5 but since you could not chose direction we all ended up a distance from each other and didn't really play there long. World 51 we all played and I played under a different name that I cannot say as I may use it again in the future and I prefer to be unknown on that account. You can check the world 5, we were around at the same time as each other.
I think I am going to cry.
This guy is more annoying than I am.:icon_confused:
p.s you keep mentioning you are having a discussion, but you have not replied to one of my comments, you are picking and selecting each and every quote that fits.
Comments like the above usually get ignored because they are irrelevant and not part of the discussion. These players have probably not read what I have said as there is no reason to cry when all I did is reply to someone else. If this player is going to cry here is not place to post and many noobs have come here to post things like that if I replied to each of them it would be a waste of my own time.
I have read every single one of your posts, twice in some cases. It was actually your posts that motivated me to post after just sitting back and keeping my mouth shut.
I made quite a few relevant points that you did not address but that is neither here nor there. I don't blame you for passing over Cracker as debating with him can be quite exhausting and more often than not he is right (except when arguing with me).
As far as my comment goes about me crying, certainly you can appreciate that was not directed at you at all though it was, of course, generated by you.
You seem intelligent (yes he does Red) and you seem to feel you have a legitimate debate but you couldn't be more off base in how you are reading the statistics. You can throw numbers around all you like. I won't debate any of that with you. You do, however, understand they are just numbers and cannot in any way relay to anyone how DNY won? That is like trying to provide information on why people are unemployed simply by examining the numbers on how many people do not have jobs. You know what I mean?
I was there. I know how DNY did it You are wrong and no amount of statistics are going to make you right.
oh yes congrats to DNY, you can now tell your grandkids and all of your employers that you were the first tribe to win on Tribalwars... an incredible accomplishment and something that would cause me to hire you immediately....
You spend so much time on something to just stop... useless
an incredible accomplishment and something that would cause me to hire you immediately...
For a tribe that started that late, doesn't mean it started late, it means it started later than expected for a tribe. I see the lateness of a world as the size of the top players in the world. When you are starting a tribe with players around 500-600k points they are well established in the world and you would not expect many of them quit. Whereas alot of the tribe changes for other tribes start when players with 116 points join and there are a lot more tribe changes.
I didn't actually mention anything at all to do with merging.
You want me to name a list of the 300+ players that have been in DNY? no thanks.
It was actually there to disprove Red who claimed DNY had the least amount of tribe changes for a rank #1 tribe apart from 2 or 3 other tribes out of the first 11 worlds. But it turns out DNY had the third most out of the first 12 worlds.
It may be aggressive to start dismissing your smaller players to recruit more enemies. But it is a disloyal tactic. If they are active and growing then there is no harm in keeping them. However, due to the number of enemies you were recruiting you did have to dismiss some of your smaller players but the way you did it seems to me a little unfair. Dismissing inactives, no matter what size, is fair. But judging players on their points and just dismissing the bottom 6 or something doesn't seem to be fair (this could be coincidence but I highly doubt it)
Very good tactics to win the world so early. But those tactics would not work on any other world from 1-11 No tribe really has enough nukes to mass-nuke (blitz) another tribe. Obviously individual players are being blitzed and nobled but nobody quits just because they have a few thousand nukes heading there way in other worlds.
You can quote me on this if you want I'm not bothered but DNY are a very good tribe. If your number one critic says it then it must be true. But I am arguing that the world you played in was inactive and your tactic of high recruitment was not the way players like to see a world finish these days. Everyone likes a good showdown war where there is no hopping from one tribe to the other.
But I am arguing that the world you played in was inactive and your tactic of high recruitment was not the way players like to see a world finish these days. Everyone likes a good showdown war where there is no hopping from one tribe to the other.
I didn't actually mention anything at all to do with merging.
It does not change the fact that there was indeed enemies still left to noble and you decided to recruit them rather than noble them. If you attacked and he hit delete then that is just unlucky on your part, most of the world did that anyway.
But it is a disloyal tactic. If they are active and growing then there is no harm in keeping them.
I would like to come back to you in the future on this. I will get my group of players together and I will make a premade. I don't know when but for the amount of spare time I have it may be late January or early February. I will give you enough notice before doing this.
You seem intelligent (yes he does Red) and you seem to feel you have a legitimate debate but you couldn't be more off base in how you are reading the statistics.
No, because why people are unemployed and the number of people unemployed are barely related. Why DNY one this world so quick, and evidence of faster recruitment, lower OD scores, low number of villages/points (high really but for a tribe winning a world it is low) all link together and create one side of an argument as to why DNY won this world so quickly.
I have always quoted everyone putting forward a relevant argument. I have gone over the past few pages in this thread and haven't seen a relevant argument I haven't replied to. If someone puts in the effort to reply on my thread I will always read it and if I feel they are honestly being relevant I will quote them and give them a reply, apparently in some cases this is 'flaming'. :icon_confused:
Firstly, that was not bull I don't need to know worlds to count up tribe changes for each rank #1 tribe. In fact Red did it first, I thought it was a bit odd so I went back to the stats and found that Red had missed a lot of them.
For world 4 I didn't include LIFE2 or LIFE3 mainly because if you read you would see I said I was counting the rank #1 tribe in each world. LIFE2 and LIFE3 were not rank #1 so they were not included in the tribe changes statistics.
Alas I am not an employer so I am sorry but your insults for "working for me" dont really have any effect :/ I came in and posted my opinion about what happened and what i would have done, if you dont like it nobody is forcing you to read it or respond. Apparently i hit some sort of nerve though to cause you to use profanity and insults :/ I merely was talking about how the bragging rights of being the first tribe to win a world on tribalwars isnt really much of bragging rights in the real world which is what is truly important in the long run.
If you have a separate opinion then feel more then willing to share it, but insulting me because of mine isnt going to really help you get anywhere... i guess except for make you feel cyberly better or something
oh yes congrats to DNY, you can now tell your grandkids and all of your employers that you were the first tribe to win on Tribalwars... an incredible accomplishment and something that would cause me to hire you immediately....
You spend so much time on something to just stop... useless
In any of my comments did i say that people didnt lead normal lives? no i never did because i never will, i play the game to win but i also play it because i enjoy playing tribalwars.... i dont have the time in my life to restart a new account so i would just want to keep my account going.... why would you tell your grandkids you played tribalwars? its like telling them you played runescape or world of warcraft.... the purpose of playing this game isnt to go bragging about it and talking to everyone about it so your production in the game means nothing... people who are rimmed and taken out they dont go tell people they lost on a computer game, same as people who win dont go tell people, so what is the difference between the two? in the end W12 is over, after a few months the players will be forgotten except if they succede in other worlds and the only ones that will remember winning are the players that won, and the prize for remembering that you won a computer game isnt that amazing..... and please check my history if you would like... i have not been 'rimmed' i have lost 3 villages in total that i have not gifted to players that i knew personally... so please before you insult my ability in the game check to see that i am actually a skilled and experienced player
You will both have no excuses when you leave this forum with your tails between your legs. So i would advise you in taking this opportunity to take what little pride you have left. And going now, as it is all downhill from here.I don't blame you for passing over Cracker as debating with him can be quite exhausting and more often than not he is right