DeletedUser85711
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Yea, that was until the creative portion of the leadership had some things pop up.
DeletedUser
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I guess the back stabbing bastards of leadership were in charge today. Good show.
DeletedUser
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How is this back stabbing? You saw the reasons why you tried to back stab us (you had us pegged as fools), and if you don't read the terms your signing, then your loss. Alliance was over.
DeletedUser107947
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Here is a list of your crimes:
-Ignored the border agreement you put in place - Nope.
- Recruited in our backline without a word to us. - Nope
- Removed the shared claims without a word. - orly?
- Leaked claims list, given to NIR. - orly?
- Threatened our members immediately upon sealing the alliance. - heh
- Incomings on new Wobble recruits after they had joined. - heh
- Went behind our back to make a deal for a Bunny merge. - hypocrisy?
- Destruction follows kept calling me Summer. - When will you accept the fact that it is summer!?
^Face it, you guys dropped an alliance (that has been up for quite a while), and attacked the next minute. It's even obvious your own leadership didn't want this, the 'revolt' (if you wish to call it that) forced their hand. And no, we did not receive any warning about the alliance ending with wobble, because I'm sure even to wobble leadership '2 weeks' ago thought they were actually leading their tribe. As long as you guys get a headstart though, I guess that is okay.
War on. :axemen:
DeletedUser
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Don't make assumptions ali, I am not in either tribe.
No matter how you spin this with your so called validated reasons, Wobble broke diplomacy. They should have informed Yarr that the relation was over and faced Yarr mono e mono. But that would require a set of balls, something Wobble lacks.
No matter how you spin this with your so called validated reasons, Wobble broke diplomacy. They should have informed Yarr that the relation was over and faced Yarr mono e mono. But that would require a set of balls, something Wobble lacks.
DeletedUser
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Ok follow my thought, I will guide you through holding you by the hand:
If we enter a diplomatic contract where we stipulate that at the end of the war with bunny the alliance is over, then, we do not have to inform anyone that the mentioned alliance is over, as this has already been agreed.
If, the leadership did not publish among Pirates members the exact terms of the alliance, then this is not my problem.
Mr.pacman said:
Again, if you didn't read the contract, not our problem. As to a 'revolt', I have been in wobble since almost the beginning. There has always been a plan. There's a reason we put that clause in the agreement. Trust me when I say, the leadership of our tribe is in firmer control than you can imagine, you just believe everything you read. :icon_evil:
Edit: To prove my point:
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tman93
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Here is a list of your crimes:
^Face it, you guys dropped an alliance (that has been up for quite a while), and attacked the next minute. It's even obvious your own leadership didn't want this, the 'revolt' (if you wish to call it that) forced their hand. And no, we did not receive any warning about the alliance ending with wobble, because I'm sure even to wobble leadership '2 weeks' ago thought they were actually leading their tribe. As long as you guys get a headstart though, I guess that is okay.
War on. :axemen:
Again, the revolt thing was a joke. Those first attacks were the start of the war.
DeletedUser
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-Ignored the border agreement you put in place - Nope.
If you think I'm going through your conquer list to find them you've got another thing coming. :lol: I'm sure the person who brought it to my attention will come forward soon enough though. It doesn't really surprise me though since some people didn't even know it existed:
INC3PTION on 27.12. at 22:05
what is the boarder agreement? Sorry we are new to this account and have not gotten anything on boarder agreements. Also per my leadership, he isn't sure of anything in place and is looking at putting that in place...
- Recruited in our backline without a word to us. - Nope
http://www.twstats.com/en65/index.php?page=player&mode=tribe_changes&id=9782158
- Removed the shared claims without a word. - orly?
Hard to prove this one since the thread on it mysteriously disappeared. Probably into your archive. I do have this though:
[06/12/2012 12:38:46] Sumner / WibbleWobble: I see you have canceled the shared claims.
[06/12/2012 12:38:52] Sumner / WibbleWobble: Should I start preparing?
- Leaked claims list, given to NIR. - orly?
[27/12/2012 08:55:50] Sumner / WibbleWobble: [27 December 2012 08:49] mac stewin:
<<< i had your claims list (wasntme)
[27/12/2012 08:56:01] Sumner / WibbleWobble: Want to share who that was?
[27/12/2012 08:57:33] mac stewin: yarr
- Threatened our members immediately upon sealing the alliance. - heh
Not even gonna deny this one?
- Incomings on new Wobble recruits after they had joined. - heh
Or this one?
- Went behind our back to make a deal for a Bunny merge. - hypocrisy?
I approached Ana a looooong time after AskMe did. Even after I said it wasn't acceptable to him he turned around and made plans to invite them "later", presumably when they had time to do us some damage.
Aaaand..
[09/12/2012 23:43:12] Ana Seraphinn - Warstiner / Bunny Queen: momentarely they have a "secret" NAP with us. letting us alone until Ninjas are done.
- Destruction follows kept calling me Summer. - When will you accept the fact that it is summer!?
Nuh uh!
DeletedUser
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Awww...should have stayed a bit longer :icon_cry:
DeletedUser
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Its so fun sitting on the couch with popcorn and watching this war <3 nvm good luck to both sides.
Go yarr go!
Go yarr go!
DeletedUser107947
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Ok follow my thought, I will guide you through holding you by the hand:
If we enter a diplomatic contract where we stipulate that at the end of the war with bunny the alliance is over, then, we do not have to inform anyone that the mentioned alliance is over, as this has already been agreed.
If, the leadership did not publish among Pirates members the exact terms of the alliance, then this is not my problem.
Again, if you didn't read the contract, not our problem. As to a 'revolt', I have been in wobble since almost the beginning. There has always been a plan. There's a reason we put that clause in the agreement. Trust me when I say, the leadership of our tribe is in firmer control than you can imagine, you just believe everything you read. :icon_evil:
Edit: To prove my point:
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The terms of the alliance stated that it would end/be cancelled once the bunny war concluded? How long ago did the bunny war conclude? Why was the alliance still up all that time? Why was our shared forum / skype chat still up? All that message shows is that you guys have planned it out. GJ saving face :icon_rolleyes:
Stop fighting it, you guys have clearly backstabbed an ally here.
@ Summer:
1. That was a joke, that player was kicked not long after. You seriously butthurt over that?
2. Border agreement - Yea, you guys didn't break it did you? :icon_rolleyes:
3. Claims list - Ever heard of people lying?
4. Threatened members - Who?
5. Incomings on new wobble members - Who?
6. Bunny - We never backstabbed here. There was talk of recruiting a few of them, whether it had been a week or month from then, it doesn't matter. You even acknowledge that askme told you about it, so how was it going behind your back? Lastly, you guys did the same exact thing and merged with them ~ Do you not understand the concept of hypocrisy?
DeletedUser
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You make a lot of claims but your provide very little proof. Show proof that Wooble backstabbed or hush. You are just making yourself look like a noob.
I am not in either tribe, just pointing out bad PnP when I see it.
DeletedUser
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Again, not changing your map is not our fault. Shared forum is because we liked chatting to you. Might be at war, doesn't mean we dislike you guys. `
If you thought there was an alliance, wasn't exactly going to be beneficial for us to point out your mistake considering we were at war on another front. I'm sorry if you feel played. Didn't mean to break your hearts....
If you thought there was an alliance, wasn't exactly going to be beneficial for us to point out your mistake considering we were at war on another front. I'm sorry if you feel played. Didn't mean to break your hearts....
DeletedUser85711
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I'm only going to comment on #6...
Askme approached and asked if they could recruit Bunny and were told no. They then formed a "secret" NAP to recruit later and hit Ninjas. Idk why leadership wanted Bunnys, but they approached Yarr about recruiting and were told yes on ALL members that were recruited. Within minutes of them saying yes, AskMe sent a message to at least 1 Bunny member he wanted saying that he was ready to invite them when they were ready to join. I had skype quotes to prove it, but that does little here. We didn't go behind anyone's back in that.
Askme approached and asked if they could recruit Bunny and were told no. They then formed a "secret" NAP to recruit later and hit Ninjas. Idk why leadership wanted Bunnys, but they approached Yarr about recruiting and were told yes on ALL members that were recruited. Within minutes of them saying yes, AskMe sent a message to at least 1 Bunny member he wanted saying that he was ready to invite them when they were ready to join. I had skype quotes to prove it, but that does little here. We didn't go behind anyone's back in that.
DeletedUser
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Seems pretty smart to me.
Put in the clear cancellation terms, don't say anything when those terms come to pass. Alliance is officially "broken", without you having to mention it. So you then get the advantage by kicking off the war.
Put in the clear cancellation terms, don't say anything when those terms come to pass. Alliance is officially "broken", without you having to mention it. So you then get the advantage by kicking off the war.
tman93
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An agreement is a two way street. Yarr could have easily declared on us once the agreement had ended. In reality, I feel yarr should have foreseen this one coming. It shouldn't really be a shocker. Yarr could have and probably should have been able to anticipate the start of this war. -_-
DeletedUser107947
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http://www.twstats.com/en65/index.p...oldtribe=587&newtribe=-1&min=&max=&timerange=
http://www.twstats.com/en65/index.p...oldtribe=-1&newtribe=587&min=&max=&timerange=
Yea, you guys knew the alliance ended a long time ago - Yet not 1 single noble on either side (apart from that cross-noble).
Bad pnp is when you lie, get called out on it and call someone a noob.
DeletedUser
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Again, imagine a reason why we would deliberately not attack you until we were ready?
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DeletedUser
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Good luck to both sides...This is the one everyone has been waiting for :icon_biggrin:
- What am I doing?
- What am I doing?
DeletedUser108786
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All Wobble did was finish off NIR. Move the support from K43 to the frontlines adjacent to Yarr and then declared once they were ready. That shows a lot of disloyalty and unfair play. Come on Yarr! Kick their asses.
