World 21 - Current Wars

[DeletedUser]

I wouldn't compare player skills at this stage to when the world was averaging 1m per player. You could say they have skill, but many of those lack staying power. Many drop out long before hitting 2m, and when they come back and ask for an account and get offered something 6m they look at it and say I've never played anything this big before.

Its a different experience, playing 1m-2m single cluster/continent accounts compared to huge multi-cluster ones late game.

 

[DeletedUser]

I wouldnt compare them either. But I would not suggest that staying power is something skillful either. Of course fighting it out with exact precision and "skill" at this stage is harder but as staying power suggest, you are by that time long into the game and the quality has by that time sunken so low that the kind of precision you would need at the earlier stage to be good and to defeat someone is gone. Mass force rules the later stages not skill.

However you do have people like Busamad and AzGamer who has been in the top 20 since the early stages. That is what I would call real quality. One who can master the micromanagement and competition of the early stages and the organization and dedication that comes in play later on.

 

[DeletedUser]

I disagree in part. Defending a small account has its challenges, but the low number of troops and villages means its easy to keep track of what is where and what is headed where. Defending a 10mil account against a constant 6k inc and 15+ odd trains landing a day, that takes skill. Speaking from experience of having done both, the latter was far more of a challenge.

Not taking anything away from Az and Busa, who I know are both great players, agreed the best players are ones who are top and stay top, but I have also seen large players who have been at the top since the beginning of worlds fall like flies.

 

[DeletedUser]

but I have also seen large players who have been at the top since the beginning of worlds fall like flies.

players like lordtrall???

 

[busamad]

LT did not fall he left the game.

 

[DeletedUser]

Other worlds carty

 

[DeletedUser]

I disagree in part. Defending a small account has its challenges, but the low number of troops and villages means its easy to keep track of what is where and what is headed where. Defending a 10mil account against a constant 6k inc and 15+ odd trains landing a day, that takes skill. Speaking from experience of having done both, the latter was far more of a challenge.

Not taking anything away from Az and Busa, who I know are both great players, agreed the best players are ones who are top and stay top, but I have also seen large players who have been at the top since the beginning of worlds fall like flies.

The point about defending the 10 mil account that I was trying to make is that the world is in such a late-stage by then so the chance that you would have to go through all the effort to defend rather then just identify incomings with often poorly executed faking then stack is very little. Of course theres always going to be exception and a world is rarely fully without skillful players who can put you to a test but just like in w21 they are concentrated to one or at best a few tribes so chances of having to be skillful rather then using mass-force is still little the way I see it. In your case however I do agree that it takes more skill to defend a 10 mil account rather then a early game one.

And of course top-ranking in itself does not prove anything. I used them as example as Ive played with both in all stages of the game and know their worth in all of them. But more often the bad players with big accounts tend to slip in the top rankings towards the late-game for the same reasons Ive been putting forth. Less competition, less skill needed.

 

[DeletedUser]

players like lordtrall???

Worst example you could find for Stec :lol:

 

[DeletedUser]

players like lordtrall???

Its hard to succesfully stay at the top when you dont play the game anymore.
Dont diss what you dont know

 

[DeletedUser84906]

I have some free time, so i will work on another update tomorrow.

As i have no more space in the other posts, i will start new ones, with a link redirecting each other to the other post

 

[DeletedUser84906]

#1 - PnP: (2nd Part)

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Last Update : 08/02/2011

[spoil]#1 - PnP:

Versus ~IMP~ :

Map:
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Ennoblement Map: (last month)
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Last Month:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: PnP
Side 2:
Tribes: ~IMP~

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 238
Side 2: 4
Difference: 234

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 2,279,261
Side 2: 38,343
Difference: 2,240,918

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Last week:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: PnP
Side 2:
Tribes: ~IMP~

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 21
Side 2: 0
Difference: 21

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 189,920
Side 2: 0
Difference: 189,920

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Versus the .:TA:. :

Map:
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Ennoblements Map: (last month)
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Last Month:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: PnP
Side 2:
Tribes: .:TA:.

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 363
Side 2: 22
Difference: 341

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 3,359,120
Side 2: 198,631
Difference: 3,160,489

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Last Week:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: PnP
Side 2:
Tribes: .:TA:.

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 24
Side 2: 1
Difference: 23

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 210,311
Side 2: 8,724
Difference: 201,587

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[DeletedUser84906]

#2 - Panda! (2nd Part)

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Last Update : 08/02/2011

[spoil]Panda!

Versus FOOT!:

Map:
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Ennoblements Map: (last month)
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Last Month:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: Panda!
Side 2:
Tribes: FOOT!

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 77
Side 2: 2
Difference: 75

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 596,206
Side 2: 13,174
Difference: 583,032

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Versus R.T.T - R.T.TB :

Map:
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Ennoblements Map: (last month)
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Last Month:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: Panda!
Side 2:
Tribes: R.T.T, R.T.TB

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 80
Side 2: 5
Difference: 75

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 606,437
Side 2: 51,505
Difference: 554,932

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Versus .:TA:. :

Map:
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Ennoblements Map: (last month)
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Last Month:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: Panda!
Side 2:
Tribes: .:TA:.

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 110
Side 2: 6
Difference: 104

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 994,243
Side 2: 53,050
Difference: 941,193

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[DeletedUser84906]

#3 - ~IMP~ : (2nd Part)

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Last Update : 08/02/2011

[spoil]#2 - ~IMP~ :

Versus PnP:

Map:
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Ennoblements Map: (last month)
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Last Month:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: ~IMP~
Side 2:
Tribes: PnP

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 4
Side 2: 238
Difference: 234

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 38,343
Side 2: 2,279,261
Difference: 2,240,918

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Versus NOw:

Map:
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Ennoblements Map: (last month)
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Last Month:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: ~IMP~
Side 2:
Tribes: NOw

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 14
Side 2: 120
Difference: 106

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 133,735
Side 2: 1,139,737
Difference: 1,006,002

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Last Week:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: ~IMP~
Side 2:
Tribes: NOw

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 8
Side 2: 105
Difference: 97

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 75,244
Side 2: 994,134
Difference: 918,890

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[DeletedUser84906]

#4 - IT!:

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Last Update : 08/02/2011

[spoil]#4 - IT! :

Versus NOw:

Map:
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Ennoblements Map: (last month)
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Last Month:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: IT!
Side 2:
Tribes: NOw

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 44
Side 2: 31
Difference: 13

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 423,933
Side 2: 291,031
Difference: 132,902

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Last Week:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: IT!
Side 2:
Tribes: NOw

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 5
Side 2: 3
Difference: 2

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 47,615
Side 2: 29,030
Difference: 18,585

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[DeletedUser84906]

#5 - NOw:

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Last Update : 08/02/2011

[spoil]#5 - NOw :

Versus IT!:

Map:
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[/spoil]

Ennoblements Map: (last month)
[spoil]

[/spoil]

Last Month:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: NOw
Side 2:
Tribes: IT!

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 31
Side 2: 44
Difference: 13

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 291,031
Side 2: 423,933
Difference: 132,902

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Versus ~IMP~ :

Map:
[spoil]

[/spoil]

Ennoblements Map: (last month)
[spoil]

[/spoil]

Last Month:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: NOw
Side 2:
Tribes: ~IMP~

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 120
Side 2: 14
Difference: 106

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 1,139,737
Side 2: 133,735
Difference: 1,006,002

[/spoil]

Last Week:
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: NOw
Side 2:
Tribes: ~IMP~

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 103
Side 2: 8
Difference: 95

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 975,095
Side 2: 75,244
Difference: 899,851

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[DeletedUser84906]

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Last Update : 08/02/2011
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Finally updated :icon_razz:

Discuss!

 

[spacemanspiff92]

very impressive...

 

[DeletedUser80610]

Not really sure what to say, same as Space I suppose, very impressive Mef.

Seems like -TA is losing 4.4mish a month, not so good. I'm not really convinced that nobling 200 90p villages every month covers that.

NOw showing that they are not a tribe to be messed with, IMP falling pretty hard from that in the first couple weeks.
But then theres IT!, matching up conquers with NOw, Good job guys. Still a long road ahead though, things could turn around.

Panada vs Foot/RTT.. EHHH.. Don't really have a lot to say, you guys are taking out the trash.
I've never seen Foot or RTT battle but I don't think the odds are in their favor.

 

[DeletedUser]

Agreed.

 

[DeletedUser]

@hl2 Not sure TA realise how difficult its going to be trying to defend those clusters. When the clusters are that tight unless you are on 24/7 (which they are not) or able to big stack everything (which they aint either) your gunna take pretty heavy village losses at a quick rate from close range nobles. advantage attackers. :icon_twisted: Im not complaining, more fun for me.