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[DeletedUser]

Pardon my rudeness, and it is quite nice to see familiar faces again. But, would someone be so kind to inform me of why people feel just because they were on this world back in the day that makes them a good player? I peak in the forums every once in awhile and am sincerely full of disgust at all the awful players that talk so highly of themselves or their terribad counterparts.

That kingjohan player for an example posting on here, he was awful and a complete pain in the ass if I recall right. Probably, even more of an ignorant forum poster than I was then (A sad idea).

For the people that are still present on this world, I do commend you for fighting the LONG, almost never ending war of activity/inactivity. I realize it must be entirely difficult to nuke players that do not react for a couple days at a time.

The sad realization of this game is, your skill ingame does not factor nearly as much as your drive to not hit the delete button. Activity outweighs skill so massively, there are large awful bottom feeders still all over.

Fantastic players such as Warham, king matt III, KR, myself (at times), LT, and many many more. Got completely over shadowed in their skill. Bloody, 90% of the players I encountered between sitting/coplaying/playing my own account, did not time anything at all and it really discourages you on doing the same.

Just a shame, the second aspect of the game is "Who you know" or your reputation...The same people have/had good propaganda and those same people were/are the best ingame people to deal with it.

Pajuno/LT/Hench/Nak even, etc.

Anyway, more so than not this was just a rant to see what kind of reaction I could get, and some productive input. Not a trolling session or anything of the such. World 6 is/was my favorite world, and even in the future most people (in other worlds that used to play w6 still reflect back to it).

SO

TLDR:
What makes a good player
Why do players that are bad feel the need to present themselves as good?
What are the key aspects of doing well in this game (similar to question 1 but not)?
How should tribes conduct their diplomacy early game(or all)?
How should you balance between overplaying (overworking yourself) and inactivity?

Just some basic questions I feel some more successful, experienced players could answer for others to help better their game play.


Anyhoo, it is an absolute pleasure to see people I recognize (again), and a huge shame to see some fantastic people out of the game. All completely understandable, and just as respected none the less.

For those don't remember me, http://www.twstats.com/en6/index.php?page=player&id=1182573 The past worlds thing is highly inaccurate and must've been another player with my account.

I have only lost TWO villages on my own account ever, one to an awful A~sin player he got off me when I was away one day, (I took 20+ from him), and one I nobled off or.d that got taken a couple hours later before I could get support to it in time (dzham or something if I remember lost).

I have also only lost a very small number of villages between sitting other players, exceptions being nothing has been labeled for days, completely screwed villages etc.

Biggest shame of the game is the lack of impressive players you play against, you noble they have no timed retake, you time support for nothing so many times you stop doing it.


Anyway, great time of this game was middle stage, i.e HIRE VS Sin/Or.d/neuwar/(Was there more? I don't recall) that was my absolute favorite time playing this game(probably).

I also presented myself to be more arrogant than I really am, especially with the whole ridiculous "I USE TO PLAY HERE, SO I MUST BE GOOD" yes, except I had the ODA, and 100's of CAPS in wars between or.d/neuwar/sin etc.

I have fought with HIRE and against them, Hriggs was the only decent person that I went against...I think that Mick fella tries to present himself as good but he is just an average player..Nothing like Hue

OH, so for the record, because some people have called me out on this...Hriggs(Hue) is the only person to present me a challenge 1 on 1, granted I can use the excuse of timezones/bad internet on vacation. But he truly was the only person that has given me any sort of trouble.

Rant rant rant...over.:icon_redface:


EDIT: Does anyone ever tire from the same trolls that don't/haven't played on this world in forever posting like they never left? I.e Jakub that quit a million times, Dom (but an exception considering he quits then is back in a day with a new account), TBS, and many many more.....

This is my first post, so...not valid.

 

[DeletedUser]

Jeez matt, don't you ever leave world 6 alone? You post here all the time, didn't you quit forever ago?

Sorry, I just had too.

Yes there are a lot of people who think because they played a long time ago, that they are good players. Hell I played a long time ago, I'm not that good. If I really REALLY want to sit behind the computer all day and time attacks, then I can, and have...I'm to be quite honest just too lazy to do that when I know I can get the village without doing so. Now say if I was fighting someone who I know will snipe my train, I will turn my 2 seconds train into a subsecond train, and time support to land just after, and several nukes just before. It's not worth it now adays, It's hard to find a good opponent...

Hell I'm on w52 just dicking around, I'm a little over 100k attacking players 8x bigger then me, and it's like they don't even react to the nukes/trains/other harrassing things I do to them. I just get a mail that says stop it or I'll attack you, I keep doing it, I get a few scouting attacks, they don't see my troops, they sit there and take my abuse....It's rather sad really.

 

[DeletedUser]

I kind of agree in general with with what you say, but it is kind of biased and has its flaws. For instance alot of those players that sucked back in the days, have started alot of new worlds and gotten skills on those worlds. For instance King Matt II which you used in your rant, was actually very bad on this world. But today he is a very skilled player due to experiences he got on other worlds. That may be why they talk highly now, because they are good now.

I also don't like the way you say that not timing is a lack of skill. As a matter of a fact, the better and more experienced I became(and believe me I don't think that there are many players on this world that had more experience in defending and attacking combined then I got here), the more I intentionally stopped timing. Well I still timed, but I didn't use TWstats to make every attack hit at the same time. I actually attacked so that all my attacks hit on as much different times as possible, and this tactic required less skill and less thinking then timing every attack perfectly, but I still think it is better. I'm not going to discuss tactics any further, the only point I'm trying to make is that you're generalizing and biasing to much.

 

[kingjohan]

That kingjohan player for an example posting on here, he was awful and a complete pain in the ass if I recall right. Probably, even more of an ignorant forum poster than I was then (A sad idea).

Perhaps i was awful. I don't know really. If i were really good here, however, i'd be suprised since this was my first world in Tribalwars.
If you look at my posts, i enjoy being a pain in the ass to some people, so i'll take that as a mission acomplished.

About the arrogant part; Yes, i was and still am a pretty arrogant poster. I guess you will have to deal with it or put the "ignore messages" on me. Doesn't really matter to me which, tbh.

I have, however, never said i'm a good player. If you think i have, look though my posts and quote it, please.

 

[DeletedUser]

I kind of agree in general with with what you say, but it is kind of biased and has its flaws. For instance alot of those players that sucked back in the days, have started alot of new worlds and gotten skills on those worlds. For instance King Matt II which you used in your rant, was actually very bad on this world. But today he is a very skilled player due to experiences he got on other worlds. That may be why they talk highly now, because they are good now.

I also don't like the way you say that not timing is a lack of skill. As a matter of a fact, the better and more experienced I became(and believe me I don't think that there are many players on this world that had more experience in defending and attacking combined then I got here), the more I intentionally stopped timing. Well I still timed, but I didn't use TWstats to make every attack hit at the same time. I actually attacked so that all my attacks hit on as much different times as possible, and this tactic required less skill and less thinking then timing every attack perfectly, but I still think it is better. I'm not going to discuss tactics any further, the only point I'm trying to make is that you're generalizing and biasing to much.

I AM NOW CURIOUS...

I felt King Matt wasn't bad because an account I sat had incomings from him...They may have been from you or someone else then..I honestly don't recall I suppose, they were RMC incoming (Or whichever the tag name was at the time).

I sincerely do mean timing in a general ordeal, but, the way you say it is. You still put thought, strategy, and planning in your attacks. You are not just mindlessly sending your nukes and nobles at a target and expecting to get it. If you're sending your nobles without support soon after, then unless you have cleared out all troops within the area. You MAY run into a bad time, which is unfortunate when that occurs.

The only other "Strategy" that I feel is more effective than timing, is just sending nuke nobles. But, I am really not a fan of that..(As great as it is).

This is where my bias talk of "skil=timing" comes in, do I really believe that to a fine line? No not really, but when you see noble trains coming with a large amount of time in between each one, the person defending can shift a very few amount of troops and spoil the train. Common knowledge, most people put most their troops in the first noble train. Even same second trains, if you're sniping you can usually ALWAYS get the last 2, sometimes 3/4.

I didn't use TW stats planner (because I did not have the time to do that), I did write things down and tried to adjust accordingly though. As far as, "they got skill on other worlds." That is completely valid and can be absolutely true. I which then would not disagree, but if your preference is your and you talk about your "former glory" on this world. Then it becomes invalid overall. :L


Your opinion/bias comes from any accumulated experience, like I said the only thing more effective/as effective I feel was nuke nobles. You can't snipe those without losing a significant amount of troops.

Perhaps i was awful. I don't know really. If i were really good here, however, i'd be suprised since this was my first world in Tribalwars.
If you look at my posts, i enjoy being a pain in the ass to some people, so i'll take that as a mission acomplished.

About the arrogant part; Yes, i was and still am a pretty arrogant poster. I guess you will have to deal with it or put the "ignore messages" on me. Doesn't really matter to me which, tbh.

I have, however, never said i'm a good player. If you think i have, look though my posts and quote it, please.

Ignorant and arrogant are very different.

"two nostalgic veterans looking to get back!" Title of your topic, veteran = self promoting..Most people don't say I AM A VETERAN AND I AM AWFUL.

I also remember the war with HELL, it wasn't an exciting one.

 

[DeletedUser]

You're aware I quit for over a year right? And then still didn't return to W6?

Facts Matt, Facts. I can't be bothered to dig up old 'beef' with world 6ers, I post here sometimes because it's nice to know things aren't dead yet. And last I checked, I only poured scorn on NeuWar and no-one else and frankly; who doesn't?

I really have neither the time nor patience to accommodate another world 6er trying to bore my socks off by calling me out. I'm afraid I've moved on from believing I am the bee's knees and I can't be entirely patient with those who still carry that attitude. I left world 6 a long time ago, my few remaining close-friends in the Order did the same shortly after (despite me asking them not to). I dug a ditch and threw this world into it, and that's where it's going to remain, whatever tedious yawnings and ponderings you have to share about me.

 

[kingjohan]

Ignorant and arrogant are very different.

"two nostalgic veterans looking to get back!" Title of your topic, veteran = self promoting..Most people don't say I AM A VETERAN AND I AM AWFUL.

I also remember the war with HELL, it wasn't an exciting one.

You fail more and more...

Since when did "veteran" mean Good? I must've missed that :icon_neutral:
Also, you may not have noticed, but that title wasn't a serious one, so refering to that shows your lack of material.

WHERE in the "HELL" war did i call myself good? As i said earlier, post quotes or don't bother replying. It's not working to your advantage.

 

[DeletedUser]

I am the best player in tribalwars.net. I hope MissingMatt doesn't find this quote because otherwise my points I'm going to make some time in the future will be void.

Found it.

 

[kingjohan]

Found it.

I thought i deleted that!

 

[lt181]

Pardon my rudeness, and it is quite nice to see familiar faces again. But, would someone be so kind to inform me of why people feel just because they were on this world back in the day that makes them a good player? I peak in the forums every once in awhile and am sincerely full of disgust at all the awful players that talk so highly of themselves or their terribad counterparts.

That kingjohan player for an example posting on here, he was awful and a complete pain in the ass if I recall right. Probably, even more of an ignorant forum poster than I was then (A sad idea).

For the people that are still present on this world, I do commend you for fighting the LONG, almost never ending war of activity/inactivity. I realize it must be entirely difficult to nuke players that do not react for a couple days at a time.

The sad realization of this game is, your skill ingame does not factor nearly as much as your drive to not hit the delete button. Activity outweighs skill so massively, there are large awful bottom feeders still all over.

Fantastic players such as Warham, king matt III, KR, myself (at times), LT, and many many more. Got completely over shadowed in their skill. Bloody, 90% of the players I encountered between sitting/coplaying/playing my own account, did not time anything at all and it really discourages you on doing the same.

Just a shame, the second aspect of the game is "Who you know" or your reputation...The same people have/had good propaganda and those same people were/are the best ingame people to deal with it.

Pajuno/LT/Hench/Nak even, etc.

Anyway, more so than not this was just a rant to see what kind of reaction I could get, and some productive input. Not a trolling session or anything of the such. World 6 is/was my favorite world, and even in the future most people (in other worlds that used to play w6 still reflect back to it).

SO

TLDR:
What makes a good player
Why do players that are bad feel the need to present themselves as good?
What are the key aspects of doing well in this game (similar to question 1 but not)?
How should tribes conduct their diplomacy early game(or all)?
How should you balance between overplaying (overworking yourself) and inactivity?

Just some basic questions I feel some more successful, experienced players could answer for others to help better their game play.


Anyhoo, it is an absolute pleasure to see people I recognize (again), and a huge shame to see some fantastic people out of the game. All completely understandable, and just as respected none the less.

For those don't remember me, http://www.twstats.com/en6/index.php?page=player&id=1182573 The past worlds thing is highly inaccurate and must've been another player with my account.

I have only lost TWO villages on my own account ever, one to an awful A~sin player he got off me when I was away one day, (I took 20+ from him), and one I nobled off or.d that got taken a couple hours later before I could get support to it in time (dzham or something if I remember lost).

I have also only lost a very small number of villages between sitting other players, exceptions being nothing has been labeled for days, completely screwed villages etc.

Biggest shame of the game is the lack of impressive players you play against, you noble they have no timed retake, you time support for nothing so many times you stop doing it.


Anyway, great time of this game was middle stage, i.e HIRE VS Sin/Or.d/neuwar/(Was there more? I don't recall) that was my absolute favorite time playing this game(probably).

I also presented myself to be more arrogant than I really am, especially with the whole ridiculous "I USE TO PLAY HERE, SO I MUST BE GOOD" yes, except I had the ODA, and 100's of CAPS in wars between or.d/neuwar/sin etc.

I have fought with HIRE and against them, Hriggs was the only decent person that I went against...I think that Mick fella tries to present himself as good but he is just an average player..Nothing like Hue

OH, so for the record, because some people have called me out on this...Hriggs(Hue) is the only person to present me a challenge 1 on 1, granted I can use the excuse of timezones/bad internet on vacation. But he truly was the only person that has given me any sort of trouble.

Rant rant rant...over.:icon_redface:


EDIT: Does anyone ever tire from the same trolls that don't/haven't played on this world in forever posting like they never left? I.e Jakub that quit a million times, Dom (but an exception considering he quits then is back in a day with a new account), TBS, and many many more.....

This is my first post, so...not valid.

Ah, good old Tribalwars W6. Home sweet home.

The question has been asked here and on many other worlds. Players that stay on worlds tend to feel that their size makes them a good player. When these players lack of technical proficiency is exposed, other players use the example to rant about how these examples prove that all late game players suck.

The truth is that proficiency, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Players who have developed good technical skills tend to like to leverage these skills. Skill is always valuable, but it's most valuable during start up when all other things are equal. This is why "good" players love startup. The flip side of that is that skill as it's often mentioned here becomes less relevant later on. Skill is always important, but other attributes become even more important later in game.

The people that have survived on W6 might be great technical players. I know some of them are very good. But, whether they are good technical players or not, they do have the following characteristics: perseverance, tenacity, dedication etc.

Accumulating villages doesn't make you a good technical player. But, being a good technical player becomes less important later in game than logging in every day, sending x-thousand attacks, and x-thousand supports, keeping up with your village builds etc.

 

[mattcurr]

I just figured they shut this world down when I left.

 

[DeletedUser]

You're aware I quit for over a year right? And then still didn't return to W6?

Facts Matt, Facts. I can't be bothered to dig up old 'beef' with world 6ers, I post here sometimes because it's nice to know things aren't dead yet. And last I checked, I only poured scorn on NeuWar and no-one else and frankly; who doesn't?

I really have neither the time nor patience to accommodate another world 6er trying to bore my socks off by calling me out. I'm afraid I've moved on from believing I am the bee's knees and I can't be entirely patient with those who still carry that attitude. I left world 6 a long time ago, my few remaining close-friends in the Order did the same shortly after (despite me asking them not to). I dug a ditch and threw this world into it, and that's where it's going to remain, whatever tedious yawnings and ponderings you have to share about me.

Dom my love, only your vanity exceeds mine. But please, do not bother trying to defend or deny multiple leaving post/threads, and I would guess AT LEAST 5 different accounts going into your hands. I could only think of 3 off the top of my head though. You were just an example nothing more, no need to spill any tea on my account.

You fail more and more...

Since when did "veteran" mean Good? I must've missed that :icon_neutral:
Also, you may not have noticed, but that title wasn't a serious one, so refering to that shows your lack of material.

WHERE in the "HELL" war did i call myself good? As i said earlier, post quotes or don't bother replying. It's not working to your advantage.

Blah blah blah blah. I will not bother, for you are more of a bother than I am. By my post, it is clear I am awful. But, definitely still beat me on the... "blah blah insignificant post blah blah". It also appears warham found the quote I was looking for.

Ah, good old Tribalwars W6. Home sweet home.

The question has been asked here and on many other worlds. Players that stay on worlds tend to feel that their size makes them a good player. When these players lack of technical proficiency is exposed, other players use the example to rant about how these examples prove that all late game players suck.

The truth is that proficiency, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Players who have developed good technical skills tend to like to leverage these skills. Skill is always valuable, but it's most valuable during start up when all other things are equal. This is why "good" players love startup. The flip side of that is that skill as it's often mentioned here becomes less relevant later on. Skill is always important, but other attributes become even more important later in game.

The people that have survived on W6 might be great technical players. I know some of them are very good. But, whether they are good technical players or not, they do have the following characteristics: perseverance, tenacity, dedication etc.

Accumulating villages doesn't make you a good technical player. But, being a good technical player becomes less important later in game than logging in every day, sending x-thousand attacks, and x-thousand supports, keeping up with your village builds etc.

Thank you very much for your response LT, your opinion is still definitely a much appreciated one on this world and always has been. Getting duke perspectives is definitely an advantage, because they can look at it from both ways..From being someone that was required to handle countless mails, incomings, accounts, tribal activity etc. They definitely may have a different view opposed to someone that logs in..Runs their scripts, mints, logs back off.

 

[kingjohan]

Blah blah blah blah. I will not bother, for you are more of a bother than I am. By my post, it is clear I am awful. But, definitely still beat me on the... "blah blah insignificant post blah blah". It also appears warham found the quote I was looking for.

So then you're all talk. I pity you.

 

[DeletedUser]

So then you're all talk. I pity you.

You're just a smart ass man...I did my time, had my achievements on here and the stats to show for it. I moved from K3 down to K26/K36, K2, K12, bunch of other K's through enemy noblement alone...Granted, initially getting there I would grab a starting point. I ended far above 100 in enemy caps to the measly two I lost. Both of which were retakes, one while I was away...Came back it was too stacked to take back again, and the other was one I recently got off another or.d member.

http://www.twstats.com/en6/index.php?page=player&id=1182573 got nothing to be "all talk" about.

Obviously there are far better players than I am, and players that got a HELL lot more caps than I did. But, I did incredibly well considering I started from the safest north of the map and got as far as I did.


I will never compare to some of the top noblers of our time, (enemy caps at least) but I am up there. :axemen::axemen::axemen:

I am optimistic about trying new worlds, but it is incredibly hard dealing with the slow pace starting from scratch.

http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=72226
http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=72226

I remember the tribe 1408....There weren't many people in there at all...Not much to be bragging about throughout this.

http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?p=1755492#post1755492 When BDR is laughing at you, you're doing something wrong.

http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=8 1560 EVEN TBS was on you? ...?..

http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?p=3043862#post3043862 goodness, how many accounts/tribes have you been in? Also, 2m that you were given not earned.
http://www.twstats.com/en6/index.php?page=player&id=1296803 Yes, fantastic job bringing on all those internal/gifted villages...I killed some time, I am happy.

I had nothing against AoN players, and understood bringing AoN in was a MUST for HIRE unless Or.d would have taken a NAP in exchange for leaving AoN out (which hardly would mean anything considering there wasn't much tribe relations, there is no way that Or.d would ever wanted that as well). Bringing in all that AoN inactive garbage...Bison/Pax were okay when they were active, a day or so after the merge hit they were gone.. Leaving us to defend all their accounts.

Aon = Or.d meatshield. I only bring this up because, you were in AoN and were one of the sad products that we got from it.

 

[kingjohan]

You're just a smart ass man...I did my time, had my achievements on here and the stats to show for it. I moved from K3 down to K26/K36, K2, K12, bunch of other K's through enemy noblement alone...Granted, initially getting there I would grab a starting point. I ended far above 100 in enemy caps to the measly two I lost. Both of which were retakes, one while I was away...Came back it was too stacked to take back again, and the other was one I recently got off another or.d member.

http://www.twstats.com/en6/index.php?page=player&id=1182573 got nothing to be "all talk" about.

Obviously there are far better players than I am, and players that got a HELL lot more caps than I did. But, I did incredibly well considering I started from the safest north of the map and got as far as I did.


I will never compare to some of the top noblers of our time, (enemy caps at least) but I am up there. :axemen::axemen::axemen:

I am optimistic about trying new worlds, but it is incredibly hard dealing with the slow pace starting from scratch.

http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=72226
http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=72226

I remember the tribe 1408....There weren't many people in there at all...Not much to be bragging about throughout this.

http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?p=1755492#post1755492 When BDR is laughing at you, you're doing something wrong.

http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?t=8 1560 EVEN TBS was on you? ...?..

http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthread.php?p=3043862#post3043862 goodness, how many accounts/tribes have you been in? Also, 2m that you were given not earned.
http://www.twstats.com/en6/index.php?page=player&id=1296803 Yes, fantastic job bringing on all those internal/gifted villages...I killed some time, I am happy.

I had nothing against AoN players, and understood bringing AoN in was a MUST for HIRE unless Or.d would have taken a NAP in exchange for leaving AoN out (which hardly would mean anything considering there wasn't much tribe relations, there is no way that Or.d would ever wanted that as well). Bringing in all that AoN inactive garbage...Bison/Pax were okay when they were active, a day or so after the merge hit they were gone.. Leaving us to defend all their accounts.

Aon = Or.d meatshield. I only bring this up because, you were in AoN and were one of the sad products that we got from it.

As i said earlier. W6 was my first world. You bringing that up shows your lack of good counter material. Ofcourse i was bad in W6, ofcourse i was a bad propagandist (spelling?), what did you expect? :icon_neutral:
We were discussing wheter i said i was good or not, right? I mean...That's what you said, wasn't it? (didn't deny when i carried it on anyways). I won that argument, and you lost it.
If you want to have another argument with me, write what it'll be about instead of posting links and saying how bad i am :lol:
Heck, just noticed i used the word "silly" in my declaration on 1408 :icon_redface:

 

[DeletedUser]

As i said earlier. W6 was my first world. You bringing that up shows your lack of good counter material. Ofcourse i was bad in W6, ofcourse i was a bad propagandist (spelling?), what did you expect? :icon_neutral:
We were discussing wheter i said i was good or not, right? I mean...That's what you said, wasn't it? (didn't deny when i carried it on anyways). I won that argument, and you lost it.
If you want to have another argument with me, write what it'll be about instead of posting links and saying how bad i am :lol:
Heck, just noticed i used the word "silly" in my declaration on 1408 :icon_redface:

Why does it even matter? Shouldn't counter-material show you're bad if anything and suffice just the same (Though it is indifferent to me if you're bad or not, I would only say that is misleading to people you want to co-play with). These links aren't from world 6 alone, it is across the ridiculous numbers of worlds it appears you have played. Or, just so many points up and around.

-Why does the fact world 6 being your first world "OF COURSE" makes you bad? I know Warhamn said some players get experience in other worlds that they didn't get here. That is also to say if you did not get experience here...You didn't look for it, unless you're cornered in the bottom right corner of the map and you can't be bothered to move to a front...That is somewhat your own fault.

You're even doing a bad job right now, you're as bad as Nakaro pounding his chest even when things weren't so hot. (Except Nak was one of the best pnpers ever, in my opinion, LIE AND NEVER STOP LYING)

The forums are dead, therefore these post can't really do any harm.

 

[kingjohan]

Why does it even matter? Shouldn't counter-material show you're bad if anything and suffice just the same (Though it is indifferent to me if you're bad or not, I would only say that is misleading to people you want to co-play with).
What? Counter material should not necesarily show i'm bad. It could also be used to prove me wrong :icon_idea:
These links aren't from world 6 alone, it is across the ridiculous numbers of worlds it appears you have played. Or, just so many points up and around.
Hmm..W6 and...W34 in a "your previous experiences" :lol: Really? :icon_neutral:

-Why does the fact world 6 being your first world "OF COURSE" makes you bad?
Incase you missed my stats and the threads i made i find it pretty obvious it was "OF COURSE" i was bad in W6. Also my first world. But meh, i shouldn't get ahead of you now...might confuse you.
I know Warhamn said some players get experience in other worlds that they didn't get here.
*clap clap*
That is also to say if you did not get experience here...You didn't look for it,
Fact still remains.
unless you're cornered in the bottom right corner of the map and you can't be bothered to move to a front...That is somewhat your own fault.
Have i said something else? :icon_rolleyes:

You're even doing a bad job right now, you're as bad as Nakaro pounding his chest even when things weren't so hot. (Except Nak was one of the best pnpers ever, in my opinion, LIE AND NEVER STOP LYING)
I'm pounding my chest? Where?

The forums are dead, therefore these post can't really do any harm.

They havn't.

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[mattcurr]

Logic still escapes this world I suppose. If politics and propaganda, is about shaping images to create a favorable outcome for yourself and your tribe, and people in general tend to see a correlation in time played, experience, and skill. Than if those things are true would it not be logical to make people think you're good, or attempt to make them think your good regardless of the truth. You ask, why as though this is some great revelation, its a game of wit more than skill, and when image plays such a huge role, it makes someone who doesn't understand this look like a dumber player than the people he is attempting to belittle.

 

[DeletedUser]

Logic still escapes this world I suppose. If politics and propaganda, is about shaping images to create a favorable outcome for yourself and your tribe, and people in general tend to see a correlation in time played, experience, and skill. Than if those things are true would it not be logical to make people think you're good, or attempt to make them think your good regardless of the truth. You ask, why as though this is some great revelation, its a game of wit more than skill, and when image plays such a huge role, it makes someone who doesn't understand this look like a dumber player than the people he is attempting to belittle.

See, there is a lot of grey in between these two things Ingame capabilities (accomplishments) and your presence, and peoples personal opinion of you on the forums or in general (the image).

I separate ingame skill and propaganda(people skills) as much as I can, because you can't have one without the other.

Can a tribe with few people, few accomplishments, little territory promote them self as a MUCH larger entity than they really are? Yes, they can and try all the time, does it make it true? No it doesn't, even if people believe you that belief only goes so far. It does help diplomacy GREATLY granted, but when REAL conflicts do arise, those tribes are sitting in the dust.

So again, your (not you directly of course) can only carry you so far..But what about the players who do have both?

Also, as much as this game is about HOW YOU ARE SEEN BY OTHERS, what is another factor that would improve your stature? Factual accomplishments would be the answer to that one! It is easier to say, I AM AWESOME, then look at these stats, this is why I am awesome.

I am clearly not a favorable person in propaganda, I have NEVER tried nor wanted to. I have followed through with truth and ingame performances. I do not have the will to word as well as some of our better writers among TW.

Declarations by Caz, Nak, Paj, others are FAR better (to me) than the awful picture threaded propaganda ones.

 

[mattcurr]

Declarations by Caz, Nak, Paj, others are FAR better (to me) than the awful picture threaded propaganda ones.

by today's' standards, none of those people you mentioned would be good enough to make it as a noble target if they landed near me:icon_neutral: Though Idk who caz is. If that's your definition of good, than I think more is flawed than just your logic.

As for the rest, I have never seen a tribe lose due to attacks. Ever.