ZOMBIE Vs HATE

barracuda96

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I just love Al budak.

He's as bad at English as he is at sending trains.
 

Al Swearengen

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Al Swearangen, and who are you ingame ?
I don't play w61, probably shouldn't comment but it seems maybe something changed in tw, where getting catted is now good & the target can flame people for it? :icon_rolleyes: Well nvm, just looking to catch up a little.
 

Shepard 295

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Catting in general isn´t a bad thing (for the attacker), but sending out nukes for 100+ hours, just to cat some backline villages is (in most players opinion) simply useless, since the AM simply rebuilds them. It isn´t really as annoying as people think.
 

xshahzad

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WHAT THE HELL IS THIS :D some nuke hate please teach us with all your amazing wisdom and how to build such a special nuke

http://en61.tribalwars.net/public_report/afaed145eede0b691cc525e998deeb5a
this is true a mean every true tribal wars player knows that spears are best at attacking.... if only i had stacked with axe i would of won
So what i make of ur two post is that Brgy26 is inexperienced so he is sending spear and HC as nuke.

I would say Bragy26 is ranked 16th on ODA and 20 on points. I do not imagine that he have gained all this ODA sending spears and HC Nukes. Definetely he would have send proper nukes. Their could be a lot of reasons for this attack. Most common i can think of is he was trying to make his Deffence village into Offense village, so decided to send those troops as attack.

Hope u understand.

Catting in general isn´t a bad thing (for the attacker), but sending out nukes for 100+ hours, just to cat some backline villages is (in most players opinion) simply useless, since the AM simply rebuilds them. It isn´t really as annoying as people think.
Please change " (in most players opinion)" to "(in my opinion)" as i think u do not have any poll stats or any other fact to back that most players have the same opinion.
 
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xshahzad

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Side 1:
Tribes: ZOMBIE
Side 2:
Tribes: HATE.


Timeframe: Last week


Total conquers against opposite side:


Side 1: 235
Side 2: 94
Difference: 141





Points value of total conquers against opposite side:


Side 1: 2,185,514
Side 2: 876,364
Difference: 1,309,150






Side 1:
Tribes: ZOMBIE
Side 2:
Tribes: HATE.


Timeframe: Forever


Total conquers against opposite side:


Side 1: 2,284
Side 2: 1,436
Difference: 848





Points value of total conquers against opposite side:


Side 1: 21,445,505
Side 2: 13,335,130
Difference: 8,110,375


 

Shepard 295

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Please change " (in most players opinion)" to "(in my opinion)" as i think u do not have any poll stats or any other fact to back that most players have the same opinion.
All Zombie players (me included) don´t care much for the backline catting, so I took this as most players opinion, my apologies!

Al Budak, feel like sharing the real one?
 

Al Swearengen

Non-stop Poster
Catting in general isn´t a bad thing (for the attacker), but sending out nukes for 100+ hours, just to cat some backline villages is (in most players opinion) simply useless, since the AM simply rebuilds them. It isn´t really as annoying as people think.
No mention was made of 100+ hour distances. Instead Tomsky and then drbad (in a rather unlettered contribution) attempted to ridicule the entire concept of Hate using catnukes, rather than perhaps illustrating their failure by pointing out a particular deficiency in the duration, planning and/or execution of the op.

It can't be taken for granted that every player uses account manager (even at this stage). This is a limited haul world, surely resources spent on rebuilding rather than minting coins do matter, also, AM didn't stop Riots duke from quitting under pressure from a Hate cat op.


I can't quite reconcile these two posts... Maybe drbad thinks he is the only person in w61 to use AM?

time to get those cats going again :) see HATE taking a very good pounding at the moment well done zombies..
Thank you for the catting AM click all rebuilt:) i rather like my new villages i required with grannies sitting at home idling away one nuke/train and presto new villages:) Not long now before HATE/PLAY merge :) thanks for the heads up Mike :)
 

Shepard 295

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Then it depends what you value higher - not having your nuke for 200 hours or rebuild a farm/smithy in a backline village.
 

xshahzad

Guest
All Zombie players (me included) don´t care much for the backline catting, so I took this as most players opinion, my apologies!

Al Budak, feel like sharing the real one?
I play risharks in Zombie. I was in the council as well. I do not know anything that we do not care about backline catting. I do not know how u come to this conclusion. I think ur sample size is not large enough, maybe u talked to 2-3 members and they have the same opinion so u considered it as the opinion of majority of zombie players.
 

Psihic

Contributing Poster
I play risharks in Zombie. I was in the council as well. I do not know anything that we do not care about backline catting. I do not know how u come to this conclusion. I think ur sample size is not large enough, maybe u talked to 2-3 members and they have the same opinion so u considered it as the opinion of majority of zombie players.
In a few months time, when HATE is dead, I will explain in detail why the catting strategy is utter failure.

But why give the enemy the advantage of knowledge that we have and they obviously dont ?
 

SlowThinker.

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Catting is stupid, because you guys are sending your cat nukes 80h+ out. If the target is somewhat ~40h-50h then it becomes a little bit effective, but if only done once and not repeated for 3-5 times by a couple of players. It losses all the efficiency. Honestly, it's just better to nuke frontline villages.
 

Shepard 295

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I play risharks in Zombie. I was in the council as well. I do not know anything that we do not care about backline catting. I do not know how u come to this conclusion. I think ur sample size is not large enough, maybe u talked to 2-3 members and they have the same opinion so u considered it as the opinion of majority of zombie players.
I´m also in Zombie if you may not know...so far the players I did speak to where not overly annoyed about having their backline catted. I personally see rather my backline catted down than have these nukes there were it hurts.
 

t0msky

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No mention was made of 100+ hour distances. Instead Tomsky and then drbad (in a rather unlettered contribution) attempted to ridicule the entire concept of Hate using catnukes, rather than perhaps illustrating their failure by pointing out a particular deficiency in the duration, planning and/or execution of the op.

It can't be taken for granted that every player uses account manager (even at this stage). This is a limited haul world, surely resources spent on rebuilding rather than minting coins do matter, also, AM didn't stop Riots duke from quitting under pressure from a Hate cat op.


I can't quite reconcile these two posts... Maybe drbad thinks he is the only person in w61 to use AM?

let me clarify..the nukes where sent 120 plus hours..simply put a total waste...dodge out most of the troops in case its a cat op and leave enough home to kill cats, if its a nuke, the villas rebuilt before their nuke gets back home, with AM its 4 clicks and done, takes no time and you carry on with your ops as normal, nobling enemy villas and nobles are half price also with 900 plus villas and resources balance, the costs are not even an impact

if you see the waste of a nuke out of comission for 240 hours with no cap at the end as a success then feel free to keep sending them
 
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Al Swearengen

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@tomsky: I'm not part of Hate, and although I appreciate the mini tutorial I am already familiar with defensive strategy. I was really only posting to encourage more detailed posts/flames in future. And yes 120+ hour nuking is quite futile so that's all I wanted to know about this specific issue.
 

t0msky

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@tomsky: I'm not part of Hate, and although I appreciate the mini tutorial I am already familiar with defensive strategy. I was really only posting to encourage more detailed posts/flames in future. And yes 120+ hour nuking is quite futile so that's all I wanted to know about this specific issue.

wasnt popping at you specifically bud, just generalized popping ;p

and an op with a purpose i would always commend, but for the sake of hitting a farm is as futile as it gets when no troops die or minimal troops, even if they kill a few nukes due to bad return times etc from other ops, i would still consider 1k nukes out of comission for that time a total waste of resources
 

Anagram-Solver-Demo-Mode

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Catting is good for players like NakataN. Stops his spread of Barb nobling.