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Yes, good one.
Yes, good one.
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Give them a questionnaire 
Just a few simple questions and you can tell if there a newbie by the way they answer
Just a few simple questions and you can tell if there a newbie by the way they answer DeletedUser
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Don't discount newbies, it's noobs you want to stay away from.
Some newbies turn out awesome, by being fast learners and using their own initiative etc. Take AZ on 21 for example, rank 1 by a goodly margin and it's his first world, apparently. He was a newbie that came good.
Some newbies turn out awesome, by being fast learners and using their own initiative etc. Take AZ on 21 for example, rank 1 by a goodly margin and it's his first world, apparently. He was a newbie that came good
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I am not sure i believe that bit i will edit my post from newbies to noobs
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Good read for people who don't know it already Easy to understand and fast enough to read through.
Feedback: get someone (or do yourself) some proof-reading. I'm by no means an expert in english, but "putted" is obvious typo even for me (the verb "put" is irregular, it stays the same in all tenses)
Easy to understand and fast enough to read through.Feedback: get someone (or do yourself) some proof-reading. I'm by no means an expert in english, but "putted" is obvious typo even for me
(the verb "put" is irregular, it stays the same in all tenses)DeletedUser
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so with the "to be continued" part are you going to make one for intermediate players?
I figured that would be the next step but please tell me if I'm wrong.
And also it's a nice begginners guide. But not a lot of begginners read the forums so that's one of the problems
I figured that would be the next step but please tell me if I'm wrong.
And also it's a nice begginners guide. But not a lot of begginners read the forums so that's one of the problems
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Well, just mail some tribes with many players. Tell their leader there is a good guide at this place xxx, and he will tell his members about it. That will spread pretty fast then
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I found this help guide a bit refreshing, whether I have played for as long as I have or if I had just decided to join these forums I would have found it helpful.
Most people DO decide to mass recruit if they aren't 'pre-made' as it can be hard to gain good players, and the only way to do that is to reach a high rank.
Most people DO decide to mass recruit if they aren't 'pre-made' as it can be hard to gain good players, and the only way to do that is to reach a high rank.
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I've been thinking about the forum as well. How do you make a good forum, which is easy to use etc. Some tribes has like 20 diffrent sections, and its impossible to go through it all.
Skype/IRC? Maybe add that too? Can be very handy, and is a good way to make the tribe working together and have fun at the same time.
Public forum? How do you act on the public forum?
Just some suggestions. I hope you can use it
Skype/IRC? Maybe add that too? Can be very handy, and is a good way to make the tribe working together and have fun at the same time.
Public forum? How do you act on the public forum?
Just some suggestions. I hope you can use it
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Ok, this is more a general thread than a w41 one, however I also think it's worth a sticky.
It needs to stay on topic please people as it reflects a good amount of effort by Sasuke.
It needs to stay on topic please people as it reflects a good amount of effort by Sasuke.
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I've read your comments.
About to be continued - I'm writting one for Intimiedate / Expert Leaders Guide. Which will be more detailed + there I will add Skype / IRC, more details of how should Tribal Forums look like.
But I don't want to rush it, I'm writting it slow to avoid nonsense.
Thanks for nice comments, I really appreciate it.
About to be continued - I'm writting one for Intimiedate / Expert Leaders Guide. Which will be more detailed + there I will add Skype / IRC, more details of how should Tribal Forums look like.
But I don't want to rush it, I'm writting it slow to avoid nonsense.
Thanks for nice comments, I really appreciate it.
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The Leadership: From a Beginner to an Expert
When Atlantia comes online - he'll probably reffer this Thread to General Discussions, I posted it here just for one reason -> People will notice this Thread here sooner. Please be understanable. It's a quite long read - but i think you'll enjoy it.
The Leadership: Have you guys ever thought : »Woow! What a nice Tribe! They're ranked #1 since the begining! And they still conquer anything! I wonder how does the leader do it?!«
Well you asked yourself a good question, but the answer is not only on Leader.
Welcome to the Evolving part of being and Expert Leader or Expert Tribe also known as Elite Tribe.
What does make a Tribe Elite?
~ Leader
~ Players
Or
~ Players
~ Leader
Very difficult choice, but I think you got it. Correct. In an Elite Tribe, there's NO differences in being a LEADER or just a TRIBE MATE. The only difference is that the Leader of Elite Tribe has the most priviliges and most make sure that the Tribe's morale is high. If his Tribe is really ELITE, then he doesn't need to worry about players evolvness.
To have an Elite Tribe is not an easy thing. Here are some Guidelines you could use while creatin one (NOTICE: There are plenty of Guideliness you want to look after):
~ Possess a great History in gaming
~ It's expected to be a Premade (ussualy not Generaly announced)
~ Possess rare skills in using Scripts
~ Possess a history of war winnings
~ Have a well known personality in General Public
Those are some few facts, that make you Elite.
I'm not an Elite. How can I become one?
To become an Elite player, you need to prove yourself. It's like a job. If you want to have a higher position at your jobs, you need to prove your boss that you're worth it. Except that in TribalWars, the boss are the other players playing this game.
So what you need to do, to get a known personality.
Getting a good personality
Your first step are General / External TribalWars Forum. Here you can communicate with the most of players playing all the games. If you want to be marked wide in this game, hang out in the General Sections. General Sections is viewed by entire gaming, on the other side, World Sections are more specifly filled with players playing the same world.
So as you reach General Section, write something interesting. It doesn't need to be a New Thread, a good reply will do. AVOID short comments, AVOID flame, AVOID useless fights, AVOID spam. You don't want to be noticed as a strange new guy, who wants to jump in and be boss to all and out-brain all from sudden.
Check a Thread. Look what it is about. If you're not expert on that subject, just search for other Threads in there, you will sure find one where you can write something back. Write normally, like a mature person. If you fell in discussion with other player, stick with your arguments if you can prove them. If not, admit that you thought that yours was right, but now you know it isn't. There's nothing bad in admitting doing a mistake, it's a part of learning and a part of you becoming an expert / elite player.
From time to time, you'll get to know everything more. Maybe it's a time for you to open a New Thread in General Section. It can be either a Guide, or a Thread you discovered something. i.e.: Barbarian villages growth, Noblemen Bug, Packets > Coins => Either will do, just as long as you know what are you writting. Then wait for the responses. NEVER use words like »BUMP!« or » Can someone please respond?«, they will ignore you even more or just lock your Thread. Sooner or later atleast one respond will come. If it's a props, just thank yourself, if it's a suggestion pay attention to it, if it's something negative – normally discuss that with the player and try to explain your facts.
So now, yo have something. You are noticed by some players. It's time to move on. Go to your home world Section. Check out the discussions. Look for Threads where you can write. There will be a LOT of dissagrements with you at the start, but keep in mind, that you might know more now than others and stick with your words. In Worlds sections, there will ALWAYS alot of contra-comments, as nobody sees the facts same = that's nothing wrong. You might find you're wrong or the other player might admit, that you putt better words in this.
Keep this up. Don't leave Forums. Congratulations you're first step is done = you are noticed. Now let's move on back to your Tribe!
OK. So now I got noticed, but what about my Tribe? How can it become Elite?
Hold your horses my friend. I know you're all hyped-out, because you got some good feedback comments on Externals, but that doesn't make YOU an ELITE PLAYER!
To have an ELITE TRIBE, the leader must be expert in playing and the leader is = YOU!
Aha. But I though I just become Elite by posting those cool posts on Externals! What's wrong now?
Well obviously your comments won't play for you. This is a well known real life concept
Theory is easy, but proving it in practical way => Takes hard work!
You have a Theory. You know how to play. But now you need to translate this in to practical way. You need to show players, that you're not just good with words!
How do I do that?
Join the World you want to play in. Chose a location which benefits you more. No, don't go in core! Ofcourse, you'll get noticed there alot faster – but you can't handle the other players who already reached that level!
So take a place more out of core, but not behind the scenes. Take outter core. (You may find this informations on Forums, which is located where)
Now it becomes hard. As you're NOT a Premade Tribe, you don't have anyone to join you from the start. But nevermind, let's go the next step!
You heard some facts on Forums about discussing Tribes. The Familiar world at the beginings of the World is »Mass Recruitment«. This you MUST AVOID!
You need a Line-Up of good players, player who know how to play, player who think before joining a Tribe, players who can give answers to your questions!
That's what you need.
I just started in World. Should I create a Tribe?
No. Remember: You're not a Premade Tribe! To create a Tribe at the begining is senseless. Wait that your Continent evolves, wait that village and troops grow. The Time for you to create a Tribe is at 400-600 Points with a good Troop back-up.
Why 400-600? Nevermind, I already got it. Should I start sending invites?
Good that you ask. 400-600 points we can talk about some serious Troops already and well builded village. And you need such a village to prove yourself as good player.
And, no. Don't send invites just like that. The Basic thing you need to do is to write a very-well, impresionate inviting letter.
Weird. I played Tribal Wars for some time already, but what is »Very-well, impresionate invitting letter« ?
Don't break your head yet. I've played for a couple of years and don't know everything, the thing is that TribalWars evolves too. There will be always new things to add to your knowledge. Currently the best option for inviting good players, is to send a well written Inviting Mail.
Here is a basic example described:
Hello dear TribalWars Member! / Hello mate! / Good afternoon/, etc.
This is the so-called What-kind-of-person-I-am part.Write a nice start of your letter. Keep it short, but not too short. It's importmant to write a nice »Hello« start. (DO NOT USE: Hi, Hiyaaa there!, Y'ellow!)
My name is Sasuke. I've been playin TribalWars for around 2 years. Now I joined this new World as it suits me with the settings and the player base. I decided to create my own Tribe.
This is the introduction part and the lead-to your Mail meaning. Always remember: You want to keep it plain SIMPLE, do not complete with your »I've been playing for thousands of years and won thousands of wars, and was in thousands of great Tribe and that you know how to snipe a Train how to back time etc etc.« NO! Noone asked you this! KEEP IT SIMPLE! The meaning of your Mail must be viewable from the start and in this part. A short introduction of yourself wont' hurt, but again – DO NOT GO INTO DETAILS IF NOONE ASKS YOU!
I was looking up my Continent for Tribeless players. When I made a list of them, I checked all on TWStats for History. I do know, some join under aliases, but I don't have time to ask all about that.
This is a Make-an-impression part of your Mail. Let the Mail reader think his good and special by being one chosen from you. Plus, he also finds out, that you're not a mass recruiter, as you written that you check everymember up before sending an invite.
Well, you are on my list. And I was wondering if you are interested to join my Tribe. If your answer is Yes, then I might have few more questions / demands. If your answer is No, thanks for reading it and responding.
This is the Head of your Mail. In this part you show him, what you wanted with your Mail and Backed yourself up with answers – because you WANT to get an answer, no matter what that might be!
Thank you very much for reading it through.
Kind Regards,
Sasuke
And finally the Outline. Write something nice at the end, that players sees you're not a douchebag from his block corner.
So now we built up your Inviting Mail. Few facts of being Elite you could learn from it itself, but we'll re-do them in following chapter.
Recruitment
We've got an invitation Mail. Now it's time to use it. However, keep in mind that you want to be a good, expert Leader. So the Recruitment isn't just a walkthrough through the List of Tribeless Continent Players. Let's get more into details.
But who should I invite then? I mean shouldn't I invite everyone who's got good points and troops to my Tribe?
Yes, but there are different players. Your main priority is to do back-up search of players history. You may either request it in your Invitation Mail (ofcourse, if player says »Yes, I'm interested in joining your Tribe«), or you could just check it up by yourself on Twstats.com.
True. You ARE looking for players with points and Troops. But be aware that there are those »One hit Wonders« and you don't want them in your Elite Tribe.
What are »One Hit Wonders« ?
One Hit Wonders are nothing more than players who got High Ranks in early starts, and might also have good amount of Troops, but will still fail at the end, because of the lack of skill and expirience in-game.
Always remember: EACH player may have a PERFECT start! It depends on the Farming Capacity (barb villages, inactives, etc). But later on, everything changes. And the skill will remain, luck will fade.
OK. So I don't want One Hit Wonders. I'm going to check player on TWStats.com. I found some great players with expirience. Should I send them a Mail?
Yes. Do it now. You've found out a little about the players you want to have a Tribe, but still if they want to join – don't send an invite immiedately. You want to make SURE, that the players is still a REAL-DEAL.
We're moving onto Questionaire.
Questionaire is build with questions which you want to be answered. I like to keep questionaires really simple and short. (NOTICE: Many Tribe might use, like 2 pages long Questionare of how would you snipe the Train and BackTime attacks, etc). My ideal questionaire is built with just few questions:
Describe me your Past Expirience with 10 sentences for each World.
Describe me why do you play TW on this World with 10 sentences.
Describe me what are your plans on this World with 10 sentences.
Describe me what kind of player are you with 10 Sentences (be detailed)
This is all I need to know about the player I'm inviting at the start. NOTICE: This is just an EXAMPLE of it, each Tribe / Leader may have it's own Questionaire.
Now it's up to you, if it still impresses you. If Yes, then it's time to click on »Invite to Tribe«.
If it does impress you, but you're still not quite sure, ask him if you can Account Sitt him. Just to check up his village and Troops to see if he's the real-deal.
GREAT! You've got yourself new members! Let's move on!
Tribal Forums
The Main thing good players will check while joining a Tribe, is your Forums. They must be interested and simple. They must containg something what players are looking for and what players would love to read. Hard? Yes.
What should I add on my Forums?
It depends what you want. Depends how did you pictured your Tribe. Depends on your Goals. Depends on how good are you with vocabulary skills. Depends on many things.
OK. So I my goals are: To be #1, To prove players we're Elite, To encourage players to write in Forums, To encourage players to read the Forums, etc. Should I open Tabs like:Goals, Achievements, Spam, General, etc. Or should I stick to the ussual term of use: Annoucments, General, Support, Diplomacy, Spam... ?
No and no. You don't want to have that kind of Forums. Yes, you DO want them to be simple, but don't use old-fashion. You're not an old-school Tribe, you're an Elite Tribe for christs sake!
The problem here is, I can't give you an exact example of the Forums Tabs, but I can share you how I do them.
Annoucments, General, Discussions and FAQ, Games Room
That's all you need. Players don't need to be bothered with Diplomacy Tab at the starts. Player shouldn't have Support Tab at the begining as until noble comes. That's all you need.
Annoucments => For Importmant Topics only,
General => For basic discusions, welcomes...,
Discussions and FAQ => For Game Discusions, Guides or some Game Questions, Farming Tips etc.,
Games Room => For entertainment.
This is the basic start of your Tribal Forums at the begining. Later when nobles come, add Support Tab and Noble Claims Tab + Coordination Tab.
Tribal Diplomacy
To grow spears and swords or to grow Axe and LC? This is the question now. The Diplomacy of a Tribe is very importmant task, because it must fulfill all Tribe members's expectations, which is hard. Some players are agressive and want to fight. Some would rather build more in peace and quiet. It's on you to make the final decision.
OK. But what should I decide? I have like half players are up for some farming wars and other half doesn't want to because they would too many enemies near!
Tricky situation, indeed. But I give you a simple answer: Do not go into any kind of wars at the begining.
You'll probably dissapoint alot of your players, but with a good argument about your decision you won't fail your respect to them.
With what should I back up my decision?
Wars costs Troops. Troops cost Resources. And Resources costs your Time. With going into war, you're lose many days to just recover the losses and other Tribe's players will have alot more points and troops at that stage, because you wasted many time just to clear a village.
And even though if you did cleared it, you might not be able to make it as your farm, because of the lack of Rams and Catapults.
So it's useless to go into wars. You do not prove yourself as an Elite Tribe, if you'll be #1 in ODA rankings.
OK, so no wars. Should I find some good relations in our K?
Good relations, yes. But no official ones. You don't want to have any Bright blue or violet dots on your map yet. Your world is still in development, so you concetrate on development too. Secure as many farms as you can and when everything stableizes and noblemen come, you may search for some official agreements. REMEMBER: Have only 1 Alliance from your K! NOT MORE!
So now I filled my RECRUITMENT, my TRIBAL FORUMS are ok, and my DIPLOMACY works well as expected. What's next for me to do? Just wait to things to develop and chat with my Tribe Mates?
You won't belive me, but yes. That's the best way to do, while you managed all other things we've mentioned before. Just relax and develop your troops and village.
But won't we then fade from our Elite Tribe looks?
You won't as long as you still keep be active in External Forums / General Forums as we mentioned before.
So you mean, I should go and write on there and encourage my players to do the same?
No. Do not encourage players to do that. Sometimes it's better when less players write on Externals, but some player are just eager to do that, so you can't blame if your Tribe mates are like that. It's a very good thing if they do also because that means that they're truely expirienced, as expirienced players do use External Forums.
What did we learn from this read?
We learned how to be respected.
We learned how to create a good Tribe.
We learned how to act in public.
We learned how to find good players.
We learned some things we didn't know before.
Did we know these things already before?
Yes, we did. But we might forgot on them and now we refreshed them.
Yes, we did. But we didn't managed to fulfill all steps yet.
Yes, we did. But it never hurts to refresh the memories.
When Atlantia comes online - he'll probably reffer this Thread to General Discussions, I posted it here just for one reason -> People will notice this Thread here sooner. Please be understanable. It's a quite long read - but i think you'll enjoy it.
The Leadership:
From a beginner to Expert
Part 1: Evolving
Well you asked yourself a good question, but the answer is not only on Leader.
Welcome to the Evolving part of being and Expert Leader or Expert Tribe also known as Elite Tribe.
What does make a Tribe Elite?
~ Leader
~ Players
Or
~ Players
~ Leader
Very difficult choice, but I think you got it. Correct. In an Elite Tribe, there's NO differences in being a LEADER or just a TRIBE MATE. The only difference is that the Leader of Elite Tribe has the most priviliges and most make sure that the Tribe's morale is high. If his Tribe is really ELITE, then he doesn't need to worry about players evolvness.
To have an Elite Tribe is not an easy thing. Here are some Guidelines you could use while creatin one (NOTICE: There are plenty of Guideliness you want to look after):
~ Possess a great History in gaming
~ It's expected to be a Premade (ussualy not Generaly announced)
~ Possess rare skills in using Scripts
~ Possess a history of war winnings
~ Have a well known personality in General Public
Those are some few facts, that make you Elite.
I'm not an Elite. How can I become one?
To become an Elite player, you need to prove yourself. It's like a job. If you want to have a higher position at your jobs, you need to prove your boss that you're worth it. Except that in TribalWars, the boss are the other players playing this game.
So what you need to do, to get a known personality.
Getting a good personality
Your first step are General / External TribalWars Forum. Here you can communicate with the most of players playing all the games. If you want to be marked wide in this game, hang out in the General Sections. General Sections is viewed by entire gaming, on the other side, World Sections are more specifly filled with players playing the same world.
So as you reach General Section, write something interesting. It doesn't need to be a New Thread, a good reply will do. AVOID short comments, AVOID flame, AVOID useless fights, AVOID spam. You don't want to be noticed as a strange new guy, who wants to jump in and be boss to all and out-brain all from sudden.
Check a Thread. Look what it is about. If you're not expert on that subject, just search for other Threads in there, you will sure find one where you can write something back. Write normally, like a mature person. If you fell in discussion with other player, stick with your arguments if you can prove them. If not, admit that you thought that yours was right, but now you know it isn't. There's nothing bad in admitting doing a mistake, it's a part of learning and a part of you becoming an expert / elite player.
From time to time, you'll get to know everything more. Maybe it's a time for you to open a New Thread in General Section. It can be either a Guide, or a Thread you discovered something. i.e.: Barbarian villages growth, Noblemen Bug, Packets > Coins => Either will do, just as long as you know what are you writting. Then wait for the responses. NEVER use words like »BUMP!« or » Can someone please respond?«, they will ignore you even more or just lock your Thread. Sooner or later atleast one respond will come. If it's a props, just thank yourself, if it's a suggestion pay attention to it, if it's something negative – normally discuss that with the player and try to explain your facts.
So now, yo have something. You are noticed by some players. It's time to move on. Go to your home world Section. Check out the discussions. Look for Threads where you can write. There will be a LOT of dissagrements with you at the start, but keep in mind, that you might know more now than others and stick with your words. In Worlds sections, there will ALWAYS alot of contra-comments, as nobody sees the facts same = that's nothing wrong. You might find you're wrong or the other player might admit, that you putt better words in this.
Keep this up. Don't leave Forums. Congratulations you're first step is done = you are noticed. Now let's move on back to your Tribe!
OK. So now I got noticed, but what about my Tribe? How can it become Elite?
Hold your horses my friend. I know you're all hyped-out, because you got some good feedback comments on Externals, but that doesn't make YOU an ELITE PLAYER!
To have an ELITE TRIBE, the leader must be expert in playing and the leader is = YOU!
Aha. But I though I just become Elite by posting those cool posts on Externals! What's wrong now?
Well obviously your comments won't play for you. This is a well known real life concept
Theory is easy, but proving it in practical way => Takes hard work!
You have a Theory. You know how to play. But now you need to translate this in to practical way. You need to show players, that you're not just good with words!
How do I do that?
Join the World you want to play in. Chose a location which benefits you more. No, don't go in core! Ofcourse, you'll get noticed there alot faster – but you can't handle the other players who already reached that level!
So take a place more out of core, but not behind the scenes. Take outter core. (You may find this informations on Forums, which is located where)
Now it becomes hard. As you're NOT a Premade Tribe, you don't have anyone to join you from the start. But nevermind, let's go the next step!
Part 2: From a village to a Tribe
You need a Line-Up of good players, player who know how to play, player who think before joining a Tribe, players who can give answers to your questions!
That's what you need.
I just started in World. Should I create a Tribe?
No. Remember: You're not a Premade Tribe! To create a Tribe at the begining is senseless. Wait that your Continent evolves, wait that village and troops grow. The Time for you to create a Tribe is at 400-600 Points with a good Troop back-up.
Why 400-600? Nevermind, I already got it. Should I start sending invites?
Good that you ask. 400-600 points we can talk about some serious Troops already and well builded village. And you need such a village to prove yourself as good player.
And, no. Don't send invites just like that. The Basic thing you need to do is to write a very-well, impresionate inviting letter.
Weird. I played Tribal Wars for some time already, but what is »Very-well, impresionate invitting letter« ?
Don't break your head yet. I've played for a couple of years and don't know everything, the thing is that TribalWars evolves too. There will be always new things to add to your knowledge. Currently the best option for inviting good players, is to send a well written Inviting Mail.
Here is a basic example described:
Hello dear TribalWars Member! / Hello mate! / Good afternoon/, etc.
This is the so-called What-kind-of-person-I-am part.Write a nice start of your letter. Keep it short, but not too short. It's importmant to write a nice »Hello« start. (DO NOT USE: Hi, Hiyaaa there!, Y'ellow!)
My name is Sasuke. I've been playin TribalWars for around 2 years. Now I joined this new World as it suits me with the settings and the player base. I decided to create my own Tribe.
This is the introduction part and the lead-to your Mail meaning. Always remember: You want to keep it plain SIMPLE, do not complete with your »I've been playing for thousands of years and won thousands of wars, and was in thousands of great Tribe and that you know how to snipe a Train how to back time etc etc.« NO! Noone asked you this! KEEP IT SIMPLE! The meaning of your Mail must be viewable from the start and in this part. A short introduction of yourself wont' hurt, but again – DO NOT GO INTO DETAILS IF NOONE ASKS YOU!
I was looking up my Continent for Tribeless players. When I made a list of them, I checked all on TWStats for History. I do know, some join under aliases, but I don't have time to ask all about that.
This is a Make-an-impression part of your Mail. Let the Mail reader think his good and special by being one chosen from you. Plus, he also finds out, that you're not a mass recruiter, as you written that you check everymember up before sending an invite.
Well, you are on my list. And I was wondering if you are interested to join my Tribe. If your answer is Yes, then I might have few more questions / demands. If your answer is No, thanks for reading it and responding.
This is the Head of your Mail. In this part you show him, what you wanted with your Mail and Backed yourself up with answers – because you WANT to get an answer, no matter what that might be!
Thank you very much for reading it through.
Kind Regards,
Sasuke
And finally the Outline. Write something nice at the end, that players sees you're not a douchebag from his block corner.
So now we built up your Inviting Mail. Few facts of being Elite you could learn from it itself, but we'll re-do them in following chapter.
Recruitment
We've got an invitation Mail. Now it's time to use it. However, keep in mind that you want to be a good, expert Leader. So the Recruitment isn't just a walkthrough through the List of Tribeless Continent Players. Let's get more into details.
But who should I invite then? I mean shouldn't I invite everyone who's got good points and troops to my Tribe?
Yes, but there are different players. Your main priority is to do back-up search of players history. You may either request it in your Invitation Mail (ofcourse, if player says »Yes, I'm interested in joining your Tribe«), or you could just check it up by yourself on Twstats.com.
True. You ARE looking for players with points and Troops. But be aware that there are those »One hit Wonders« and you don't want them in your Elite Tribe.
What are »One Hit Wonders« ?
One Hit Wonders are nothing more than players who got High Ranks in early starts, and might also have good amount of Troops, but will still fail at the end, because of the lack of skill and expirience in-game.
Always remember: EACH player may have a PERFECT start! It depends on the Farming Capacity (barb villages, inactives, etc). But later on, everything changes. And the skill will remain, luck will fade.
OK. So I don't want One Hit Wonders. I'm going to check player on TWStats.com. I found some great players with expirience. Should I send them a Mail?
Yes. Do it now. You've found out a little about the players you want to have a Tribe, but still if they want to join – don't send an invite immiedately. You want to make SURE, that the players is still a REAL-DEAL.
We're moving onto Questionaire.
Questionaire is build with questions which you want to be answered. I like to keep questionaires really simple and short. (NOTICE: Many Tribe might use, like 2 pages long Questionare of how would you snipe the Train and BackTime attacks, etc). My ideal questionaire is built with just few questions:
Describe me your Past Expirience with 10 sentences for each World.
Describe me why do you play TW on this World with 10 sentences.
Describe me what are your plans on this World with 10 sentences.
Describe me what kind of player are you with 10 Sentences (be detailed)
This is all I need to know about the player I'm inviting at the start. NOTICE: This is just an EXAMPLE of it, each Tribe / Leader may have it's own Questionaire.
Now it's up to you, if it still impresses you. If Yes, then it's time to click on »Invite to Tribe«.
If it does impress you, but you're still not quite sure, ask him if you can Account Sitt him. Just to check up his village and Troops to see if he's the real-deal.
GREAT! You've got yourself new members! Let's move on!
Tribal Forums
The Main thing good players will check while joining a Tribe, is your Forums. They must be interested and simple. They must containg something what players are looking for and what players would love to read. Hard? Yes.
What should I add on my Forums?
It depends what you want. Depends how did you pictured your Tribe. Depends on your Goals. Depends on how good are you with vocabulary skills. Depends on many things.
OK. So I my goals are: To be #1, To prove players we're Elite, To encourage players to write in Forums, To encourage players to read the Forums, etc. Should I open Tabs like:Goals, Achievements, Spam, General, etc. Or should I stick to the ussual term of use: Annoucments, General, Support, Diplomacy, Spam... ?
No and no. You don't want to have that kind of Forums. Yes, you DO want them to be simple, but don't use old-fashion. You're not an old-school Tribe, you're an Elite Tribe for christs sake!
The problem here is, I can't give you an exact example of the Forums Tabs, but I can share you how I do them.
Annoucments, General, Discussions and FAQ, Games Room
That's all you need. Players don't need to be bothered with Diplomacy Tab at the starts. Player shouldn't have Support Tab at the begining as until noble comes. That's all you need.
Annoucments => For Importmant Topics only,
General => For basic discusions, welcomes...,
Discussions and FAQ => For Game Discusions, Guides or some Game Questions, Farming Tips etc.,
Games Room => For entertainment.
This is the basic start of your Tribal Forums at the begining. Later when nobles come, add Support Tab and Noble Claims Tab + Coordination Tab.
Tribal Diplomacy
To grow spears and swords or to grow Axe and LC? This is the question now. The Diplomacy of a Tribe is very importmant task, because it must fulfill all Tribe members's expectations, which is hard. Some players are agressive and want to fight. Some would rather build more in peace and quiet. It's on you to make the final decision.
OK. But what should I decide? I have like half players are up for some farming wars and other half doesn't want to because they would too many enemies near!
Tricky situation, indeed. But I give you a simple answer: Do not go into any kind of wars at the begining.
You'll probably dissapoint alot of your players, but with a good argument about your decision you won't fail your respect to them.
With what should I back up my decision?
Wars costs Troops. Troops cost Resources. And Resources costs your Time. With going into war, you're lose many days to just recover the losses and other Tribe's players will have alot more points and troops at that stage, because you wasted many time just to clear a village.
And even though if you did cleared it, you might not be able to make it as your farm, because of the lack of Rams and Catapults.
So it's useless to go into wars. You do not prove yourself as an Elite Tribe, if you'll be #1 in ODA rankings.
OK, so no wars. Should I find some good relations in our K?
Good relations, yes. But no official ones. You don't want to have any Bright blue or violet dots on your map yet. Your world is still in development, so you concetrate on development too. Secure as many farms as you can and when everything stableizes and noblemen come, you may search for some official agreements. REMEMBER: Have only 1 Alliance from your K! NOT MORE!
So now I filled my RECRUITMENT, my TRIBAL FORUMS are ok, and my DIPLOMACY works well as expected. What's next for me to do? Just wait to things to develop and chat with my Tribe Mates?
You won't belive me, but yes. That's the best way to do, while you managed all other things we've mentioned before. Just relax and develop your troops and village.
But won't we then fade from our Elite Tribe looks?
You won't as long as you still keep be active in External Forums / General Forums as we mentioned before.
So you mean, I should go and write on there and encourage my players to do the same?
No. Do not encourage players to do that. Sometimes it's better when less players write on Externals, but some player are just eager to do that, so you can't blame if your Tribe mates are like that. It's a very good thing if they do also because that means that they're truely expirienced, as expirienced players do use External Forums.
Part 3: The Ending
We learned how to be respected.
We learned how to create a good Tribe.
We learned how to act in public.
We learned how to find good players.
We learned some things we didn't know before.
Did we know these things already before?
Yes, we did. But we might forgot on them and now we refreshed them.
Yes, we did. But we didn't managed to fulfill all steps yet.
Yes, we did. But it never hurts to refresh the memories.
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DeletedUser
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Sorry four double posting the Thread, having an internet lagg -> This one is better, as in other one the words are too big.
Sorry again.
Sorry again.
Kriegselend
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Right off the bat, I'll disagree with this:
"~ Possess a great History in gaming
~ It's expected to be a Premade (ussualy not Generaly announced)
~ Possess rare skills in using Scripts
~ Possess a history of war winnings
~ Have a well known personality in General Public"
All of that is wrong.
The only thing needed to make an elite tribe, is activity, charisma and skills as a player and leader. Leader skills being knowing how to handle yourself in the PnP and Diplomacy aswell as knowing how to bring a tribe together as a team.
"~ Possess a great History in gaming
~ It's expected to be a Premade (ussualy not Generaly announced)
~ Possess rare skills in using Scripts
~ Possess a history of war winnings
~ Have a well known personality in General Public"
All of that is wrong.
The only thing needed to make an elite tribe, is activity, charisma and skills as a player and leader. Leader skills being knowing how to handle yourself in the PnP and Diplomacy aswell as knowing how to bring a tribe together as a team.
DeletedUser
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You basically mentioned all the things I mentioned.
Activity is a common sense. This is a read for Expirienced Players not the beginners, so activity is a must. So I didn't mention it.
Skills - it's too general. Everyone expirienced knows that they need skilled players, you need to specifiy what skills they need to have, like I said:
Skills being in wars
Skills in using scripts
I might be wrong, but that's how I see it. You must notice that some facts are really too basic to mention them in an Intermidiate / Expert Leaders read.
Thanks for commenting.
Activity is a common sense. This is a read for Expirienced Players not the beginners, so activity is a must. So I didn't mention it.
Skills - it's too general. Everyone expirienced knows that they need skilled players, you need to specifiy what skills they need to have, like I said:
Skills being in wars
Skills in using scripts
I might be wrong, but that's how I see it. You must notice that some facts are really too basic to mention them in an Intermidiate / Expert Leaders read.
Thanks for commenting.
DeletedUser
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Forgive me for asking, but why is this guide called 'From a beginner to Expert' if it's not for beginners?
DeletedUser
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Thanks Ickle Rabbit.
I don't know why is it soo small. It allways happens if I copy something from Word 2007. Got an idea how to fix that?
@Glowbal: Because if you check in General Discussions my first "The Leadershipi: First Brink in the Building" is the Guide for beginner Leaders. So if you move from that one to this one -> it comes to "From a beginner to Expert". This is like a 2nd part. If you know what I mean.
I hope I was clear. But thanks for mentioning that anyway.
I don't know why is it soo small. It allways happens if I copy something from Word 2007. Got an idea how to fix that?
@Glowbal: Because if you check in General Discussions my first "The Leadershipi: First Brink in the Building" is the Guide for beginner Leaders. So if you move from that one to this one -> it comes to "From a beginner to Expert". This is like a 2nd part. If you know what I mean.
I hope I was clear. But thanks for mentioning that anyway.
DeletedUser
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Yes in advanced edit the icon on the far left (two letter A's over each other) highlight everything in the post and click that, and then save. It will then use the standard font from the forums.
Kriegselend
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I don't use any scripts at all, and I'm in the top 25. :icon_surprised:
People played this game for 3+ years without ever using a script, "skills" in script using is non-existant. You press a couple of buttons and all your "skills" have done the work for you.
As for all that you mention you are way off my friend (not saying you're wrong, but what I said and what you said are completely different). You basically said in order to create an elite tribe, you have to be famous in a sense. This is sooooo not true. Many tribes are created and become "elite" but their leaders are never famous until after their tribe becomes a dominant force.
Another point I must ask, is what do you define as elite?
