First of: thanks for moving the thread. That is what i hope you'll do everytime a thread should be in general rather then PnP. More then enough players get confused about where to put things and even without confusion interpretations may differ. It seems to me that a forum mod is here to encourage a lively forum where people can speak their mind within the rules.
Easy. The world forums are inhabitated by the larger players who would of course want to close the world.
They are indeed. But then again: as you say the forum is only a place to discuss this and maybe show that there is a large majority among those 'established' players in this world pro a proposal. If the game admins then find that the idea has merit but they are unsure whether or not the smaller players agree they could always organise a survey ingame, no? Honestly: there is nothing stopping smaller players from opening their mouths on these forums - unless of course you lock the thread :icon_wink:
The newer ones, who basically do not have much of a chance. Still deserve that chance. Closing this world now would be robbing people from their chance of experiencing an older world.
A use for these new players would be morale bashers.
Invite a RL friend to come and join, support him, feed him res and teach him about the game.
Not to be a fuss, but:
1. if a RL friend comes to join i'd get him an account with 600 nobles on it and about 10 starting villages. I know of several such accounts whos owners i can get in touch with any such friend that might be inclined to join. And i'd clear barbs for him so he can grow fast making his own cluster as he goes along. If he'd prefer i could likely get him his choice between several 4 mil+ accounts. I'd be doing him a serious disfavour by making him build up a single village first and then making him mint coins to get anywhere near enough nobles to be of import on this world. Morale vs smaller players doesn't matter anymore for anyone above 3 mil. More then enough nukes to go around and pummel them to the ground. I did it at 2 mil, 4 mil and 6 mil. And i'll do it again now at 9 mil if one of them is stupid enough to noble where i want to expand or attack me (and if he keeps coming back i'll simply take all but one village and keep catting that to the ground. Doubt it'd be fun to play that way).
2. morale bashers were against the rules when i left TW several months ago. I've not read up on rule changes since then but i doubt that changed unless all of a sudden Morty had a serious change of hart.
3. if new players only have value to this world because they morale bash (against other new players no less :icon_rolleyes
then why have them join here? It's only fun or usefull for accomplished players who have little to no time. Why would joining here in a world full of behemots be better for them then joining a new world or a world that's not quite as old as this one? There are tribes here owning nearly a fifth or a quarter of the world. That's no longer a world where new blood is welcomed with a new account. It's one where people are searching new blood only to replace players who quit their gigantic accounts so as to prevent them from going barb. And that "new" blood usually has to be pretty skilled to boot in order to get in.
Either way the PnP is not the place because this is a matter that affects the whole world, andthe whole world isn't posting in this thread. You can ask for support but it won't matter. Admins make the decisions sp admins are the people you should ask, not me the forummod, not the other users of this forum but an admin. Trough PM, a service request, IRC or Skype.
Can you show me a single thread where the entire world posts? I've not seen it in a single thread since i joined TW. Nor have i seen it in a single thread in any other game since joined the online gaming community in 98. Whether or not this is the best place to ask is a different thing from whether or not you should opt to close a thread or move it imo. I thank you for your advice as to where to go ask. I'm sure those who came up with the proposal will take it to hart and do as you suggest.
I'm stating examples and I do not expect replies to these examples. I'm just pointing out that not all new players are without a chance.
Seriously? You've been in TW a while at the very least. You honestly expect people not to reply to your points on a forum like this? Especially when they are about a topic that several of the "larger" players feel strongly about?
I myself restarted on W2 and 6 when it already had players over a few mill in points and I was rather succesfull until I quit again (Not nobled but quit.) Its viable with help.
A few mill and between 8 & 12 mil is a very big difference. How many players do you think join this world that actually have the kind of help you are talking about? A handful at the most i'd wager. Exceptions are no validation for the norm. They are just what the word says: exceptions. The vast majority of those newer players will fail miserably here. Mainly because large players and tribes tend to be very territorial and not to welcoming towards newbies.
I'll move this thread to GD, you can further discuss it there. It does not belong in the PnP but rather in the General area.
Do not insist that this ought to change though. I'll be the only one reading it and I can't do anything about it.
Thank you for moving.
However, i'm sure that people have the right to insist it should change in here. Whether or not that serves a purpose is doubtful, but that shouldn't stop people from posting imo.
Actually no it's not. IG moderation refers to specific players getting punished for their actions ingame. It is forbidden to discuss anything related to that on these forums. It is also forbidden to use this forum to slander the names of the ingame moderators or voice frustration at their policy of punishing. This - however - was a discussion about whether or not the W30 forum community feels that the "half price nobles" rule would be a good idea for W30. As such it is not forbidden on these forums. It merely was out of place in the PnP (though personally i disagree that it was, but that's h0lly's call).
