DeletedUser1546
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I thought the wall of text post was a decent guide for new players. It's definitely one of the ways to play the game. Kudos for your survival in an environment that's pretty hostile to newbies.
DeletedUser
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That's right. What meant that there is no point rushing to academy before being able to sustain 24/7 LC and axe quest.
A reccommended build order:
1. HQ 5, smithy 5, barracks 5, stables 3, lc research + 80-120 sp + 20-30 sw+ (some axes from quest award) + 6-8 level resrouce buildings.
Since this moment I spent my entire income on LC till I can sustain 24/7 recruitment. I build only warehouse, farms and increase my resource building by 1 per each new farm level. Exampe: if my farm is 8 and my resources are 6 when my farm reaches 20 the resources will be 18. This inevitably leads to iron shortage but the problem is easily solved trading coal and wood for iron at 1:1 ratio
2. Don't rush to an academy! This is very important. Start building your HQ when you have fulfilled 1. Don't build smithy until your HQ is at least 20. Then start upgrading the smithy and research catas and rams.
3. If you can spend 30-60 min per day it's much more useful to log in 12 times for 2-5 min. When you go to sleep spend all resources and send your troops to a distant village so they can return approximately when you are online again or a eventually a bit earlier.
The fact that my English is not very good and I don't always manage to express myself in the best way makes my post less trustworthy but see TWSTATS:
This was my account http://www.twstats.com/en64/index.php?page=player&id=9779078
This was the second strongest player on the continent who became number 1 when I left http://www.twstats.com/en64/index.php?page=player&id=4233487
He is very experienced and won world 28 but I still managed to be twice his size when I quit in the middle of November. I was the strongest player among all continent at a similar distance from the core.
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DeletedUser104941
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Because belittling a newcomer makes you look like such a boss.
DeletedUser
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Well my friend, as a self proclaimed newbie you have impressed me. I have highlighted some things you said to address what I agree upon myself. It proves what I said here before: never underestimate another player or a newbie for that matter. Your tips are part of the micro aspect of the game, the macro aspect is another ballgame all together but soon you'll get the touch of it.
Point 7 i've put in italic. It's a strange way to say: don't be a pointwhore. No troops, no battle.
An important point I would like to add is: be organized and be consistent. Organisation keeps the time to maintain your villages to a minimum, if you have 10 or 1500, it should take exactly the same amount of time. Consistency is important to make sure you don't give up after losing some villas after a well orientated attack.
There are of course many micro aspects of the game that you didn't talk about. Like organizing and implementing def and off villas, where to put them or how to handle 1000 incomings to name a few. But all in all you are good on the way to become an experienced player with a mathematical insight into the game.
It's an interesting conversation. Especially for newcomers. I like to help them to give insight too, i don't see it as a waste of time, ever. You unnecessarily break down an attempt of a relatively new player to help other new players. We all start at 26 points and on a slow world like this, newbies have loads of time to get to learn the micro aspect of the game quicker than on faster worlds. See them learn and grow and don't be surprised if one day they actually take some villas from you.
As mkdbg said: never underestimate another player. Sometimes you don't see them coming.
DeletedUser
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Ohhh... I see. I like to word it "Keep your troops high relative to your points" though :icon_wink:
I'm much too arrogant for this advice and it is useless to me :icon_redface:
DeletedUser
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What exactly makes bookmark farming more efficient than the FA? Aren't they basically the same thing? Bookmarks are faster to send but take a lot of time to set up. And while I love TWFR, I think it's pretty much unusable early on when there are still lots of other people competing for the same barbs. It gets seriously awesome at the multiple village stage though, and there it surpasses the FA's efficiency by far.
Obviously I would never spend money on FA if all these free alternatives were usable on mobile devices. But mass bookmarking doesn't work when you have a limit on tabs and the TWFR script doesn't load for some reason. ZomgTW works, and it would be pretty good if it didn't take so much time to send everything. So the FA is my current preferred farming method and I don't find it that inefficient.
DeletedUser
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Precisely what I was thinking.
Herucles
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My attempt at a polite restart mail below... Unfortunately the guy isn't quick to catch on...
DeletedUser
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Perhaps I should reword that. FA is convenient and efficient, just not the MOST efficient.
Early game, microfarming is the most efficient. I don't know if it's still early enough for that to be worth it, but I remember when on W61 when our account gave up on microfarming we lost a lot of hauls for a brief period.
Bookmark farming I have admittedly never used, so I don't know very much about it. I suppose it is fairly similar in efficiency and speed to FA, thinking about it. And it does take a massive amount of time to set up.
TWFR I don't remember very well, but I remember it was much better at using troops than FA was. Maybe they've improved FA since I last played, but FA always sent way more troops than necessary.
I do agree though that FA is the best option for mobile.
DeletedUser
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You can micro farm with FA. And as long as you are majorly farming barbs, you can do it faster than methods like Zomg. Its not perfect so you need another way to farm player villages, but its a nice way to launch sitting LC rapidly. Used correctly, FA is just as good as Zomg (ignoring player farming, as obviously FA is not capable).
DeletedUser
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Why can't FA farm players? Is it to encourage scripts?
Michael Corleone.
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I am surprised nobody has pointed out you need a HQ level of 10 in order to have stables... Also your pit levels depend on your farming area. If you have less farms, they would need to be higher, if you have great income from farming, they can be lower. It also depends on the speed of the world itself. Also, you may need more axes depending on your area.
Just truly awful, I understand you are a newer player but stop.
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Muldie325
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How do I get coal? I want to trade it for iron.
DeletedUser
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You mine it at the Dwarven Mine located in Falador...
Muldie325
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I'm new, what is Falador?
DeletedUser
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DeletedUser
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Now this man knows how to live.
carriestupidhead
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I just wanted to clear up that I in no way meant to come off as discouraging to/break down new players who are here to learn. I just meant that I believe all tactics to be fair in this game and (if used right) can be fun and very smart for your gameplay.
I was a new player once, like all of us, and if it wasn't for decent players help I would have probably given up as well... I believe that the restart mail, if written properly, can be good because it should offer assistance in learning the ropes to whoever it's sent to. That being said, I do not send them myself anymore... learned my lesson by making the very mistake Michael Corleone mentioned in his post.
Now the only restarts I send are humorous ones, and only to players I already know, as joke mails.
spleen mage
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I really don't see where the fun is in restarting, whether it's logical or not. If you're willing to concede defeat at the first hint of a threatening letter, then you're probably not cut out for this game. If you're not particularly active, then chances are that you wont have much luck against a top player. That doesn't mean you can't have fun trying though!
The problem with restart mails is that good intentioned or not (let's face it - usually not!) they generally come across as fairly arrogant and quite often make people more likely to build troops/try and be an extra pain in your backside.
The problem with restart mails is that good intentioned or not (let's face it - usually not!) they generally come across as fairly arrogant and quite often make people more likely to build troops/try and be an extra pain in your backside.
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DeletedUser104941
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Agree with above. By their nature restart mails are arrogant. With troop quest, pally and militia, even a completely new player can throw a serious spanner in anyone's start-up if they lure the farmer into thinking they have quit.
