I know very well the role of Duke and maybe my standards are different from yours, so NO I have never thought it an option to allow a Duke to get Nobled, also though this was not a suprise sneak attack from an random player, MCD and Koss in general had been talking big ish to Pills and through their convos Koss had to know he was in trouble talking reckless to go.d.evil. So it just doesnt fly my friend MCD either doesnt communicate and is a mess or they just talk big and dont have the troops to back it.
My point was that he had put himself in a position in which he had to either stack himself with pretty much all the tribe's Def, or risk being nobled. As I see it, he riesked being nobled instead of being a terrible, terible duke and using the tribe for his own purposes.
Are you saying that you would sacrifice other people in your tribe just to save your own skin? as that's what it amounts to.
nOObs has been under attack since the protection came off and our players have defended each other(Must have been blind luck being we are nOOBERS but...) it is just plain embaressing what has happened to Koss.
Defend each other, yes, our tribe does the same, but not hoard all support available, and I would assume that almost all calls for support had more than a 1 hour response limit, as that's pretty much what Koss had.
I'll agree with you on one thing, the duke shouldn't have much priority over other members but even IF this was a normal member and MCD had not sent any support to him at all that player still would've been rimmed. What would you have done then? Kicked him out? Alot of 'rimmings' have premade excuses and all of that and most of them are something like "He was too far away".. Well, if he was too far away why was he in that tribe in the first place? What will you do when the other members in that area get attacked? Wait till they get rimmed and then log on to the forums to use the 'he was sitting his 3 neighbours' excuse? I personally think this shows a lot about your teamwork.
I'm saying that the way he had played out his sitting, and the timing of Pills' attacks, made it very hard for him to have a decent stacked defence in place in time, and under the circumstances, I would have refused anything but timed support to all land before the same attacks: anything less would have resulted in all the defence being destroyed for nothing. And would have done nothing except doom more members of MCD to be nobled easily in the coming weeks. I'm sure you can understand my reasoning?
Look at it this way, you say he had 3 members near him, correct?
An estimate, based on my own situation. I didn't check how many he himself had near him.
And well, he has some troops himself but what you're claiming here is that he would rather get rimmed and NOT use his O/D for his own members near him when the time comes instead of getting support and having a chance of actually successfully defending against their attacks? Whether the duke was to be treated as a normal member or not, not only was that treating that member badly but it always looks bad when a duke gets rimmed so effortlessly. Even if it was a member, he had all his troops go to waste and left 3 neighbours around to defend from themselves without even damaging the opponent. If he, the duke was s easy to kill why shouldn't the members be?
what I'm claiming, is that he was caught off-guard while trying to help out other members of his tribe. He took the risk involved in baiting Pills and paid the price for it. He had created a situation in which proper defence of his village wasn't possible without very, very quick responses, in a tribe which I am assuming is under heavy attack anyway.
We're talking about go.d.evil here, a guy who probably has one of the biggest offences in the server. exactly how much defense do you think would have been needed to kill off half of his attacking force? exactly how much defence do you think MCD have, in total? I would be fairly sure it would require the defences of at least 6 or 7 members to dent his offence that much (due to most players not having much defence at this stage), and it is the simple fact that there wasn't that much defence available.
Not only was his decision to sit his closest members, his safety net bad but he & Uldor decide to try and show off, spread things around the forums & In-game and then gain the attention they 'deserve' for that. It's funny that they didn't even consider what kind of attention though and I'm pretty sure that if koss had been a normal member of the 'Randomnametribe' he might still be around or well, he wouldn't have had a couple of people team on him like that.
Oh yes, I agree entirely that he brought it on himself, but I have seen a LOT of good players do the same thing. Being slightly arrogant doesn't make him a bad player: if that was the case, then 99% of the so called Elites would be horrible players, including most of Pills and N00bs
I suppose my main point, however, is this. A lot of you seem to be taking the fact that the MCD duke was nobled without the loss of one troop to mean that MCD suck. What I'm saying is:
a) the situation was hardly a normal one, due to his own arrogance, a couple of mistakes and very good timing by Pills, his village was stuck high and dry in a situation I doubt Pills would have got out of have the situation been reversed.
b) a duke being nobled is no different, or at least should be no different, were you a good duke, than a decent, or even average player in the tribe of the same points being nobled. If you do think it's different, you haven't got a clue what the true purpose of a duke with respect to his or her tribe is.
c) one person being nobled, be it a duke, or a normal member, being nobled does
Not mean automatically that the entire tribe sucks. I'd say a few n00bs, and a few Pills have been cleared (it amounts to the same thing, at this stage in the game), does that mean they suck? I myself got cleared, and farmed, that may mean I suck (or am just inactive
) but it certainly doesn't mean the rest of my tribe sucks.
